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| The Search for Perfect Pitch... [message #68924] |
Sun, 04 June 2006 00:18  |
Kim
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ere.com" target="_blank">nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:44b7fbae$1@linux...
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> Went from a mixed PARIS/SX environment to SX/Live. The feature bump was
> great,
> esp faster than real time rendering, VSTi freezing, etc. Have been very
> happy
> since dropping PARIS but mostly because I'm not a 'rocker' really anymore.
> I do pretty much all electronic music and I think the 'hi-fi' sound of
> native
> apps might work a little better in SX than in PARIS.
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> That said, I'm playing in a power pop and right now and I would wuv that
> big PARIS crunchiness for that material.
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> And always remember, it's the golfer not the clubs . . .
>
> TCB
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> "macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote:
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>>Just curious...
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>>For people who've switched from Paris, did you switch for features or
>>sound
>>or both or what?
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>>Every so often, I think about switching, and since I'm gearing up
>>for some new recording, I'm wondering if now's the time
>>(although, sticking with Paris might be the easiest thing, and my
>>main goal is to improve my room and tracking and those sorts of
>>things first).
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>>But I wonder if I'd be stupid to not get with all the advances.
>>ADC would be nice, midi would be nice, etc. And maybe low end
>>converters have come a long way, etc.
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>>I heard some stuff done on a Digi 002, and I was knocked out. You
>>can get a complete Digi 002 system with control surface and a
>>bunch of software for about $2000 which is cheaper than Paris
>>was (I got Paris mainly because it was a complete system like
>>Pro Tools, but way cheap
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| Re: The Search for Perfect Pitch... [message #68925 is a reply to message #68924] |
Sun, 04 June 2006 03:06  |
rick
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er).
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>>Sorry for the long post. Thanks for any feedback.
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>Indeed. Words out of mouth.
Jimmy
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:44b81c6e@linux...
> True to an extent.. however if you're golfing with a tire iron instead of
a
> 9 iron, things tend to suck no matter what :)
>
> AAHey Jamie, sounds good! What did you use for reverb? I can never make reverb
work, I don't know if it's the Paris verb or what.
Your drums sound almost live, like a live show in a sports
arena. The violin is a great touch, I really like that.
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
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>I mentioned this on another thread. I finally got around to putting up
>some mp3 excerpts from my "Toward An Attitude" CD, much of which passed
>through PARIS at some point. The final mix was done in Logic.
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>http://www.JamieKrutz.com/jcds.html - click some of the song names
>listed for "Toward An Attitude" to hear the excerpts.
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>Comments welcome.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.comNothing wrong with either post imho. My comment didn't sound right - I was
just implying that my opinion on native vs. Paris has diverged from other
Paris users - I didn't think your question was off topic.
As far as converters (to answer your other reply), Lynx, RME, and even Emu
have great converters. For the money, the Emu 1212M, 1616M and 1820M are
great cards. I've emailed Emu about making an 8 in/out/Adat converter box
with those converters - it would sell well if around $400-$700. RME's
Fireface is probably the best buy for an all around interface in the $1500
range.
Sound - I noticed a difference when I went to RME. In many cases the
differences between quality converters are subtle, but I can hear the
difference between, for example, RME, Cranesong and Myteks. Cranesong is my
favorite (below the DCS range at least), then Mytek, then RME. Paris'
converters are good, but fall a li
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| Re: The Search for Perfect Pitch... [message #68953 is a reply to message #68928] |
Sun, 04 June 2006 16:50 |
steve the artguy
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am@avidrecording.com> wrote in message
>news:44bbee45@linux...
>>3 EDS cards, full compliment of other periphs including external firewire
>>and usb. I've begun to suspect my 400w PSU is operating marginally when
a
>>moderate to big demand for power hits.
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>> So... I'm thinking of getting a 500-600w unit.
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>> I've had good luck with Enermax. Heard good on Sparkles. Taking
>> recommendations and thanks in advance.
>>
>> W. Mark Wilson
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>
>It's the difference between told twice and being told three times on
Superbowl Sunday.
Johnhny Redneck
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlI've got a Truepower also. I beleive the fan is thermo controlled from memory
(could be wrong), so if it doesn't need it it switches it off or down low...
Cheers,
Kim.
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
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>Antec Truepower 550 has been good for me.
>rod
>"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>PS. Quiet is also a pivotal factor for me.
>>
>>W
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>>"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote in message
>>news:44bbee45@linux...
>>>3 EDS cards, full compliment of other periphs including external firewire
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>>>and usb. I've begun to suspect my 400w PSU is operating marginally when
>a
>>>moderate to big demand for power hits.
>>>
>>> So... I'm thinking of getting a 500-600w unit.
>>>
>>> I've had good luck with Enermax. Heard good on Sparkles. Taking
>>> recommendations and thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> W. Mark Wilson
>>>
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>This thing just doesn't make any sense to me at all...........which means
it's probably very simple.
;oPWhat isn't making sense specifically? I have two iterations of Totalmix
routed between one another, and have somehow survived (I don't have your rig
though...)
The part that has always made this kind of thing most confusing is that we
are dealing with not one, but two sets of inputs and outputs - the hardware
and the app. Start mixing that routing through submixes and you have
spaghetti - the routing, not the brain. Okay, the brain too.
Dedric
On 7/17/06 10:57 PM, in article 44bc6a8e@linux, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> This thing just doesn't make any sense to me at all...........which means
> it's probably very simple.
>
> ;oP
>
>create one instance for your cue mix and one for mixing otherwise
you'll get constant phasing issues while monitoring.
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:57:16 -0600, "DJ"
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| Re: The Search for Perfect Pitch... [message #68954 is a reply to message #68924] |
Sun, 04 June 2006 16:58 |
Sarah
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arget="_blank">animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>This thing just doesn't make any sense to me at all...........which means
>it's probably very simple.
>
>;oP
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>This thing just doesn't make any sense to me at all...........which means
>it's probably very simple.
Well, I guess I understand it, more or less... I don't any
difficulty with using it, although I'll agree it's not most
intuitive interface they coud've devised. What are you having
trouble with? I'll try to help.
NeilThanks everyone,
This is one that will likely require a phone call due to the complicatedness
of the DAW(s) and the denseness of the engineer. One *simple* thing I want
to do is to just route the analog inputs of my Multiface to the digital
outputs (for interfacing with Paris ADAT inputs) then, route the ADAT inputs
of the Multiface (which are receiving the return signal from the Paris ADAT
outs) to the Multiface analog outputs (I'm creating a cue mix here in Paris
using the Multiface I/O like I would the Paris analog I/O). I accomplished
this last night (sorta') but couldn't achieve a suitable signal level. I can
do this by creating a routing matrix in Cubase, but this gets another layer
of crap (Cubase) and the buffer settings involved. I just want to use
Totalmix for this. Also, I would like to be able to track hi rez sessions to
Cubase and I'm clueless about how to set up a cue mix for multiple I/O so as
to interface it with my Furman HDS-16.
I think I have all of your numbers here somewhere. Maybe I can figure out
how to put together a conference call
;o)
"Neil" <IOUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:44bcd2f9$1@linux...
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> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >This thing just doesn't make any sense to me at all...........which means
> >it's probably very simple.
>
> Well, I guess I understand it, more or less... I don't any
> difficulty with using it, although I'll agree it's not most
> intuitive interface they coud've devised. What are you having
> trouble with? I'll try to help.
>
> Neil"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ah
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| Re: The Search for Perfect Pitch... [message #68956 is a reply to message #68924] |
Sun, 04 June 2006 19:59 |
Chris Latham
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nd individual groups to different outputs on the Multiface -
> (drums to output #'s 1 & 2, guitars to 3 & 4, bass to 5,
> cowbell to #6, etc.) then you can interface those with your
> Furman pretty easily, I would think.
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> I don't know if you're going to be able to do all this at once,
> though (groups being selected for stereo digi & analog outs at
> the same time isn't possible, to my knowledge, but maybe that's
> where Totalmix can enter the equation). If you're content to
> have the cans in mono, I believe you can create a VST Output
> buss (again in: "VST Connections") wherein you'd have the left
> side sent to Analog Output #1 and the right side sent to ADAT
> out #2, for example, and then pan them center externally. Not
> sure if that's what you want or if that even makes sense to do
> it that way.
>
> Neil
>Yep
"Brian Porick" <brianporick@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44bc09ea@linux...
> Here's another vote for a 5th apart.
>
> Brian
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| Re: The Search for Perfect Pitch...MusicTheory.net [message #69003 is a reply to message #68988] |
Tue, 06 June 2006 09:51 |
emarenot
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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 21:24:39 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Thanks Dedric. I just got in and I'm fried so I'll give it a go tomorrow.
>Colorado catches me off guard sometimes. It was about 97 degrees here
>today........humidity around 10% with light to moderate winds. It didn't
>really feel hot to me at all after living in Austin (80%+ humidity and 90+
>degrees) I didn't think about it much. I was out hiking some ridgelines and
>canyons scouting a route for a pipeline and I forgot to take any water
>along. After about an hour and a half I suddenly realized how far I had
>wandered from my truck (and my water) and I also realized how dry I was and
>how dizzy and weak I was starting to feel. that wind just sucked the
>moisture right out of me......kicked my butt. I've probably had about half
>gallon of water over the last hour or so. I doubt I'll even pee
>tonight........OK, sorry, too much info.
>
>;o)
>
>Deej
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>news:C0E2839B.1C9C%dterry@keyofd.net...
>> Hey DJ - In Totalmix, click submix mode; then select the channel
>destination
>> selection (bottom of any channel) to be the digital outputs of the
>Multiface
>> you want to route to the ADAT - you'll have to do one pair of ADAT outs at
>a
>> time. Set the Totalmix fader levels on the analog input (top row, 1-2,
>3-4,
>> 5-6, 7-8, etc) channels for those inputs to whatever level you want to
>send
>> to those digital outs (ctrl-click to set to nominal/0). You probably
>won't
>> have any other faders up for that submix destination. Repeat for each
>> output/submix you want to send that input to (or any other input).
>>
>> Repeat this with the Analog outputs (AN1-2 I think would be the analog
>outs
>> 1 and 2), as the destination in submix mode - now you can set levels for
>any
>> input, or ASIO channel to that output. Bring up the fader levels for the
>> digital inputs you want to send. Click off submix mode when you are done
>so
>> you don't change these (also store it to a preset).
>>
>> Hopefully that helps and isn't more confusing.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dedric
>>
>> On 7/18/06 6:40 AM, in article 44bcd778@linux, "DJ"
>> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
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>> > Thanks everyone,
>> >
>> > This is one that will likely require a phone call due to the
>complicatedness
>> > of the DAW(s) and the denseness of the engineer. One *simple* thing I
>want
>> > to do is to just route the analog inputs of my Multiface to the dig
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| Re: The Search for Perfect Pitch... [message #69177 is a reply to message #68953] |
Sun, 11 June 2006 09:25 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
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d902$1@linux...
> Hello Jimmy,
>
> Now that AMD cut chip prices to match intel it is a great time to build
> a new kit.
>
> If you are interested here is a quick guide to the newest Intel Core2 duo
> chipsets.
> http://anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2797&p=1
>
> These are the new kids on the block and not the same as the previous
> incarnation.
> They are just limping into the market now as the majority get swallowed by
> OEM builders. Mobos for these are pricey except for a new offering from
> Asrock (Asus owned) for about $60. You may be able to use your old ram
> in some instances but read the above buyer's guide.
>
> I'm still an AMD person and just scored the Gigabyte K8NS ultra nforce3
off
> ebay.
>
> Saludos a todos,
>
> El Miguel
>
>
>
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> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:44ca7d71$1@linux...
> >
> > The best computer techs in Athens gave me bad news: my motherboard is
> > fried,
> > and everything else as well, probably.
> >
> > The guy recommended an Intel board/chip combo. Anybody bought a new
> > motherboard/chip/RAM
> > combo recently?
> >
> > I'm gonna miss my Northwood P4/RDRAM combo.
> >
> > BTW, he told me that the RAM is highly valuable on Ebay, that is if it
> > isn't
> > fried, too.....
> >
> > BTW, thanks for everybody's help. I fear the day our little group is
gone.
> >
> > Jimmy
>
>Actually, I'm thinking about a San Diego chip for about a bill.
:)
El Miguel (hey, a guy's gotta buy some beans too...)-p
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44ccdcf7@linux...
> There's an AMD 64 4800 x 2 on EBay right now for a BIN price of $340.00/
>
> "Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:44ccd902$1@linux...
>> Hello Jimmy,
>>
>> Now that AMD cut chip prices to match intel it is a great time to build
>> a new kit.
>>
>> If you are interested here is a quick guide to the newest Intel Core2 duo
>> chipsets.
>> http://anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2797&p=1
>>
>> These are the new kids on the block and not the same as the previous
>> incarnation.
>> They are just limping into the market now as the majority get swallowed
>> by
>> OEM builders. Mobos for these are pricey except for a new offering from
>> Asrock (Asus owned) for about $60. You may be able to use your old ram
>> in some instances but read the above buyer's guide.
>>
>> I'm still an AMD person and just scored the Gigabyte K8NS ultra nforce3
> off
>> ebay.
>>
>> Saludos a todos,
>>
>> El Miguel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:44ca7d71$1@linux...
>> >
>> > The best computer techs in Athens gave me bad news: my motherboard is
>> > fried,
>> > and everything else as well, probably.
>> >
>> > The guy recommended an Intel board/chip combo. Anybody bought a new
>> > motherboard/chip/RAM
>> > combo recently?
>> >
>> > I'm gonna miss my Northwood P4/RDRAM combo.
>> >
>> > BTW,
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