| Re: Set up advice . . . [message #100896 is a reply to message #100891] |
Sat, 01 November 2008 07:38   |
Robert
Messages: 127
Registered: May 2007
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often than I'd like.
>>
>>I'll have to check out the recordings you suggested here!
>>
>>Tom
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>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:496238af$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Lately I've been re-visiting a couple of my favorite recordings - "Me
>and
>>> My Guitar" and "Manzanita" by Tony Rice. Apart from the great playing
>
>>> (and
>>> singing!) the sound of those albums is amazing. Clear, deep, wide and
>
>>> natural.
>>> Bill Wolf, the guy who recorded and mixed that stuff is now a mastering
>>> engineer in Arlington, VA and I've asked him lots of questions about
>>> recording
>>> that stuff. He says that he almost always used two mics on each
>>> instrument
>>> but when I listen to the CD's I hear a great localization of each
>>> individual
>>> instrument. One of the things that he's always said about the sound
of
>
>>> the
>>> instruments (Rice's guitar in particular) is that the guys all just made
>>> them sound great. To me that kind of sums up the "density" issue. Great
>>> players make their instruments sound good and create great arrangements
>
>>> that
>>> allow the whole recording to open up and breath. Makes mixing a lot
>>> easier!
>>> One of my favorite recent projects was a tune that was 2 guitars (elec
>+
>>> acoustic), bass, drums, lead vocal and 3 or 4 female harmonies. Came
>out
>>> sounding great!
>>>
>>> Gantt
>>>
>>> "Shane M" <shanem@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Question: I was listening to a very long video on "why audio quality
>
>>>>matters"
>>>> (this is about 2 1/2 hrs in total) where characteristics of favorite
>
>>>> recordings
>>>>are discussed.
>>>>
>>>> http://philoctetes.org/Past_Programs/Deep_Listening_Why_Audi o_Quality_Matters
>>>>
>>>>and 3 themes of some favorite listenable recordings kept popping out
at
>>> me.
>>>>1) space in the mix (density)
>>>>2) simplicity of signal chain
>>>>3) quiet (overall levels had a lot of true quiet - not just overcompressed
>>>>quiet - loudness wars)
>>>>
>>>>obviously capturing a great performance is key, but it stood out to me
>
>>>>that
>>>>tracks identified as great recordings seemed to have lower audio density.
>>>> (granted alot of the recordings seemed to be single takes in a the same
>>>>room too - maybe that's more of it).
>>>>
>>>>I realize many of the older tracks were this way because of physical
track
>>>>and time limitations that prohibited filling up of every sonic niche,
>but
>>>>it got me to wondering whether the current practice of stereo recording
>>> sources
>>>>may be contributing also once certain track thresholds are reached.
>>>>
>>>>... and along with that thought - have any of you purposefully attempted
>>>>to track more sources in mono to reduce the sonic footprint? Do you
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| Re: Set up advice . . . [message #100901 is a reply to message #100886] |
Sat, 01 November 2008 09:52 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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ark
Side, my Jedi friend. lol
;)
Neil
"derek" <a@b.com> wrote:
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>"Neil" <OIUIOU@OUI.com> wrote:
> heck, maybe this is what you're
>>doing already, for all I know. :)
>
>
>i tried that route for a while, until i realized
>that within the time i take for all the routing,
>troubleshooting and restarts because of hiccups of
>one kind or the other, i might as well just export
>selections of tracks within paris at a time.
>
>
>my interest is not so much in saving a few man hours.
>its more for the times when the hardware will eventually
>bite the dust. and that day is coming. not to mention
>the slowly fading software compability etc. already today,
>my only chance of opening a project as is with all
>settings and plugs in place it to actually maintain
>my win 98 machine from back then. and that just feels like
>a ticking bomb to me.
>I use both, myself. Logic Pro 8 and RME for the features and modernity,
PARIS for what I'm looking for sonically.
- K
On 1/5/09 8:54 PM, in article 4962d602$1@linux, "Neil" <OIOIU@oiu.com>
wrote:
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> Derek... I gotcha. BTW, FWIW, your recent posts look
> STAGGERINGLY familiar to some posts I made few years back when
> I bailed on paris for the Native world... welcome to the Dark
> Side, my Jedi friend. lol
>
> ;)
>
> Neil
>
>
> "derek" <a@b.com> wrote:
>>
>
>> "Neil" <OIUIOU@OUI.com> wrote:
>> heck, maybe this is what you're
>>> doing already, for all I know. :)
>>
>>
>> i tried that route for a while, until i realized
>> that within the time i take for all the routing,
>> troubleshooting and restarts because of hiccups of
>> one kind or the other, i might as well just export
>> selections of tracks within paris at a time.
>>
>>
>> my interest is not so much in saving a few man hours.
>> its more for the times when the hardware will eventually
>> bite the dust. and that day is coming. not to mention
>> the slowly fad
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