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| Set up advice . . . [message #100825] |
Fri, 31 October 2008 01:03  |
Sarah
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used market? (ebay etc)
maybe but no warranty unless its a refurb. warranties tend to be more
likely to be used on laptop.
> What about vista? do I want to avoid that, and go with XP?
Vista if it is business or ultimate are finie but you are still subject
to the same issues of bad hardware and bad drivers.
>> For a 17" then there still a bunch for good choices for PC and MAC.
> I don't necessarily want a 15, so what would be good in a 17?
The Clevo based we and other sell are excellent.
From us the the 8500SR and the 9000 SR models are the best performers.
The 9000 especially is extremely powerful. It can use a desktop Quad
core CPU, up to 8 gigs of ram, 3 internal hard drives, and very high end
video card options. Of course it is not light weight and sleek but it is
more powerful than any other laptop model on the market.
Not really designed for general business unless your business is pro
audio, video editing, 3D and CAD work or high end gaming.
A similar as possible configure of the 9000 compared to a 17" Mac Book
Pro is only a couple hundred dollar difference with the 9000 having a
Quad core and the ability to use all the current desktop Quads 8 gigs
and 3 drives. So it actually has an upgrade path unlike a MBP.
So if all you apps are PC it would not make much sense to invest in a
MBP. If you really wanted to go the MBP route I would look at some of
thier refurds.
Chris
> Probably a PC, but I'm not apposed to a mac either. Since my home and audio
> comps are PC, I was thinking it would be a better fit to go with PC as far
> as c
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| Re: Set up advice . . . [message #100827 is a reply to message #100825] |
Fri, 31 October 2008 02:49  |
Don Nafe
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re great, but am
> about to get an Iaudio 7 (though that particular model doesn't have the
> easiest
> user interface - might be better off with one of their larger touchscreen
> models; I just wanted something small).
>
> Good luck!
>
> Dan
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
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>>I need to locate an MP3 player with a semi-decent audio output to =
>>replace my aged iPod first gen player. I'm using it for pre recorded =
>>sequencing live band stuff, and it's more hobby than anything else =
>>really, but like most of my projects I want to do it right and do it =
>>once. Click out the left, music in mono out the right. I don't care if =
>>it plays video or not. WAV playback would be nice, but not necessary. =
>>128k minimum MP3 is fine, or an equivalent in another format (OGG, WMA,
> =
>>M4P, etc...) as long as the format isn't so off the beaten path I have =
>>to go through hours of nonsense to get it loaded. If I have to carry a =
>>laptop to program it, I can and it's not the end of the world but I'd =
>>rather not, really. At that juncture, I might as well just load Winamp =
>>on the laptop instead.=20
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>>Here's the stuff I'm looking for it to do:=20
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>> 1.. playlist capability on the playback unit
>> 2.. decent enough playback audio quality to be usable through a PA at
> =
>>130+dB without creating a windstorm sound. Obviously channel bleed is a
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>>real bad thing at those levels, and is to be avoided.
>> 3.. ability to scroll up a 'surprise' song request on demand quickly.
>> 4.. Easy to use. My drummer's a smart dude, but hitting 5 buttons to =
>>get where you want to go is a good way to lose the dance floor.=20
>> 5.. MUST be solid and reliable in operation. Reset pinholes make me =
>>nervous about reliable operation.
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>>Preferences, but not necessities: =20
>> 1.. works with iTunes, Windows Media Player or Media Monkey.Open to =
>>suggestions here to some degree.=20
>> 2.. touch screen would be nice. Again,
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| Re: Set up advice . . . [message #100828 is a reply to message #100827] |
Fri, 31 October 2008 03:52 |
Sarah
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not a deal breaker.
>> 3.. Internal memory and MicroSD option.
>> 4.. Some way to attach it to a mic stand for ease of operation w/o =
>>having to pick it up constantly.=20
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>>Cost plays some into this but it's not the main objective.Reliability =
>>and quick operation are. Anyone using or seen such a device in use?
>>
>>AA
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>>operation. Reset=20
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| Re: Set up advice . . . [message #100830 is a reply to message #100825] |
Fri, 31 October 2008 05:34 |
Robert
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>>option.</FONT></LI>
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>Works great here !!
I wish only if we could change the sound of the click ,menaing having more
choices as how the click can sound !!
It deserves the money spent and Mike deserves to get paid !
If we want to keep him posting here new things for Paris we need to support
him !!!
Dimitrios
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>Hi John,
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>I've never tried it so I can't say how adjustable
>the number of clicks per bar is. Mike Audet would know though.
>http://www.ensoniq.ca/metronome.html
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>It is $20.
>Tom
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>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:493db9ec$1@linux...
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>> found another way to do it. thanks !
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>Rod,
I would defer to Chris Ludwig, but IME the AlienWare laptops are the best
performing laptops I have ever seen.
They are very capable desktop replacements, on the pricey side. Smoking
fast drives, RAM, bus, processors and video.
Chuck
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@no
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| Re: Set up advice . . . [message #100831 is a reply to message #100830] |
Fri, 31 October 2008 06:01 |
Don Nafe
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spam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
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>I've mentioned this before, but never got around to getting a laptop computer.
>I'm going to get one now. I'm looking for advice on what to get.
>I'll be using it for transportable audio production. Running Cubase, stylus,
>reason, etc. I'll probably want to put protools le on it. (I had to borrow
>a friends laptop with protools a couple times recently to shlep some protools
>sessions into Paris. Cost is not the biggest issue, but would obviously
rather
>pay less, instead of more, if I can.
>Thanks
>RodI picked up a Paris with a MEC, 442, computer and Control 16. In the Paris
software one has to hold down the left mouse button or the menus go away.
We are short the 8 pin mini din cable which should be here Friday. Is there
some special mouse required or is this a wrinkle in this particular system?Hi John,
Welcome aboard!
The 8 pin mini din connection is to use an IF2 (2 in 2 out module) with the
card. If you're using a 442 or an MEC, you'd plug the IF 2 into the 442
or MEC for additional inputs and outputs. You shouldn't need a cable. It's
attached to the IF2.
Installation under XP still requires some heardles, but it works. Follow
the instructions at:
http://www.parisfaqs.com/parisonxp.html
I have just released a new driver that you will need if you want to run PARIS
on a multi-cpu or hyperthreded PC. The drivers along with some great plugins
are available at:
www.ensoniq.ca.
All the best,
Mike
"John Minnella" <minnella@lfe.arizona.edu> wrote:
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>I picked up a Paris with a MEC, 442, computer and Control 16. In the Paris
>software one has to hold down the left mouse button or the menus go away.
>We are short the 8 pin mini din cable which should be here Friday. Is there
>some special mouse required or is this a wrinkle in this particular system?
>Hi Chuck,
They currently do not have any models comparable to 9000 but all but one
are similar to the 8500SR. But as usual they do not list the chip sets
used so he will have to contact their support if they even know.
The M17 model is based on the problematic PM45 chip set I discuss int he
other email but again they hide what chip sets are being used for on
board components.
Chris
chuck duffy wrote:
> Rod,
>
> I would defer to Chris Ludwig, but IME the AlienWare laptops are the best
> performing laptops I have ever seen.
>
> They are very capable desktop replacements, on the pricey side. Smoking
> fast drives, RAM, bus, processors and video.
>
> Chuck
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>> I've mentioned this before, but never got around to getting a laptop computer.
>> I'm going to get one now. I'm looking for advice on what to get.
>> I'll be using it for transportable audio production. Running Cubase, stylus,
>> reason, etc. I'll probably want to put protools le on it. (I had to borrow
>> a friends laptop with protools a couple times recently to shlep some protools
>> sessions into Paris. Cost is not the biggest issue, but would obviously
> rather
>> pay less, instead of more, if I can.
>> Thanks
>> Rod
>Hey everyone, been away from the forum
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| Re: Set up advice . . . [message #100832 is a reply to message #100825] |
Fri, 31 October 2008 07:21 |
Deej [5]
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. I've notice that new Driver(s) has
been coded for Paris. Before I part with any money, I need to know the following..
1) Do they work?
2) Stability
3) What OS's are supported? XP-Pro, SP2, Sp3, Vista Ultimate?
ThanksWelcome aboard J Minnella,
You've now got a DAW with no midi magic but an awesome audio engine. Most
folks use software version v3.0 and either Win98 or WinXP. Both have plus's
and minuses. Avoid Vista on your Paris machine. It will not work.
I'm happy that you found this newsgroup. Stay connected to this newsgroup.
Everything Paris and then some can be learned here. Learn about upgrades,
updates and bugs and fixes. These folks are great. I lurk here when I'm at
home in my studio. I travel a lot for a week at a time so when I return
I've got lot's to catch up on. Take the time and you will be rewarded with
knowledge.
On your question. I've been on Paris since it's release in '97 and I still
forget at times to hold down the left mouse click when selecting from the
menu. It's something that you will get used to. In fact, I think it is more
efficient then clicking twice on the menu items. I may be wrong but I
believe that this type of action is how MACs work. Anyhow, it's only
peculiar in the menu area, that I recall
Paris is a vintage DAW but remains a top notch audio processor even to this
day. Get your hands on the owners, or users or reference manual for the
software version that you use. Purchase Brian T's instructional DVD and
most of all, push your new Paris system to the extreme. The system can give
you a wide open, spacious, floating on air vibe or an in your face, pulse
pounding rock system. Use the keyboard and mouse shortcuts to really speed
up your workflow.
If you can, upgrade your playback system with a DAC and higher end monitors
for the full enjoyment of what Paris has for you.
Well, I'm headed out. See you in a week.
Enjoy (I still do),
Wayne
"John Minnella" <minnella@lfe.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:493e8d68$1@linux...
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> I picked up a Paris with a MEC, 442, computer and Control 16. In the Paris
> software one has to hold down the left mouse button or the menus go away.
> We are short the 8 pin mini din cable which should be here Friday. Is
> there
> some special mouse required or is this a wrinkle in this particular
> system?
>Hi all,
I'm new to the newsgroup, but have been using Paris for years. I decided to
buy a system of my own and have had nothing but problems. Can someone help
me?
Take care,
JohnVery likely.. please post your system setup, computer, paris hardware, and
what problem you have with details.
Also, check out my site for tips.
www.kfocus.com/paris
and also www.parisfaqs.com
John
"John Solinski" <jsolinski@penn.com> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I'm new to the newsgroup, but have been using Paris for years. I decided
to
>buy a system of my own and have had nothing but problems. Can someone help
>me?
>
>Take care,
>
>John
>I can vouch for them working on my own computer - it isn't multi-CPU but
they certainly haven't broken anything I'm aware of. Point of fact none of
the betas have been anything but solid for me. As far as the multi-CPU
users, the reports back are great so far, and Mike's been running them
solidly himself.
I would say if you're contemplating getting into multi-CPUs, or if you've
ever been inconvenienced by difficulty running multiple ADAT cards in one
MEC under XP, this is the absolute "must-have" upgrade of the last five
years (since the XP drivers hit).
Consider this too - if any issues reveal themselves post-release, these
drivers are written by someone who's actually an active part of this NG. I
reckon you're going to get a heck of a lot more responsiveness from Mike if
any issues crop up than we've been previously conditioned to expect in the
world of PARIS :D
AFAIK, they're XP only, not Vista. Dunno about the specific service packs,
but we've not been told SP3 was to be avoided. Having said that, I'm running
them on XP SP2.
- K
On 12/9/08 10:13 AM, in article 493ea72c$1@linux, "LaMont"
<jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hey everyone, been away from the forum. I've notice that new Driver(s) has
> been coded for Paris. Before I part with any money, I need to know the
> following..
>
> 1) Do they work?
> 2) Stability
> 3) What OS's are supported? XP-Pro, SP2, Sp3, Vista Ultimate?
>
> ThanksWelcome John, you've come to the right place.
Give us some more info so we can help you out - OS? Computer? What
interface, 442, MEC? How many EDS cards? What's the problem? Can't get it
installed? Installs but quits? Installs and runs fine but can't hear
headphones? Let us know specifics and we can give specific advice.
- Kerry
PS: Here are some resources for you to be aware of:
PARIS Wiki: http://www.kerrygalloway.com/WikiPARIS/wikka.php?wakka=HomeP age
Your first stop should be the Bugs/Troubleshooting section:
http://www.kerrygalloway.com/WikiPARIS/wikka.php?wakka=BugsT roubleshooting
.... And John Bercik's PARIS site: http://www.kfocus.com/paris/
PARIS Forums: (coming soon) http://kerrygalloway.com/ParisForums/
PARIS Blog: http://ensoniqparis.blogspot.com/
On 12/9/08 9:15 AM, in article 493eab91@linux, "John Solinski"
<jsolinski@penn.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm new to the newsgroup, but have been using Paris for years. I decided to
> buy a system of my own and have had nothing but problems. Can someone help
> me?
>
> Take care,
>
> John
>Hi you guys,
I am in the beginning stages of setting this up on a quad core.
I'll post results here as they come. I'm heading down to start
installing EDS cards now.
Tom
"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C564189A.C02F%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>I can vouch for them working on my own computer - it isn't multi-CPU but
> they certainly haven't broken anything I'm aware of. Point of fact none of
> the betas have been anything but solid for me. As far as the multi-CPU
> users, the reports back are great so far, and Mike's been running them
> solidly himself.
>
> I would say if you're contemplating getting into multi-CPUs, or if you've
> ever been inconvenienced by difficulty running multiple ADAT cards in one
> MEC under XP, this is the absolute "must-have" upgrade of the last five
> years (since the XP drivers hit).
>
> Consider this too - if any issues reveal themselves post-release, these
> drivers are written by someone who's actually an active part of this NG. I
> reckon you're going to get a heck of a lot more responsiveness from Mike
> if
> any issues crop up than we've been previously conditioned to expect in the
> world of PARIS :D
>
> AFAIK, they're XP only, not Vista. Dunno about the specific service packs,
> but we've not been told SP3 was to be avoided. Having said that, I'm
> running
> them on XP SP2.
>
> - K
>
> On 12/9/08 10:13 AM, in article 493ea72c$1@linux, "LaMont"
> <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey everyone, been away from the forum. I've notice that new Driver(s)
>> has
>> been coded for Paris. Before I part with any money, I need to know the
>> following..
>>
>> 1) Do they work?
>> 2) Stability
>> 3) What OS's are supported? XP-Pro, SP2, Sp3, Vista Ultimate?
>>
>> Thanks
>It's not a bug, it's a "feature" :D
That's one of PARIS' little peculiarities - a GUI that both Mac and PC users
can feel slightly "not at home" with; you just get used to it.
- K
On 12/9/08 8:23 AM, in article 493e8d68$1@linux, "John Minnella"
<minnella@lfe.arizona.edu> wrote:
>
> I picked up a Paris with a MEC, 442, computer and Control 16. In the Paris
> software one has to hold down the left mouse button or the menus go away.
> We are short the 8 pin mini din cable which should be here Friday. Is there
> some special mouse required or is this a wrinkle in this particular system?
>Great Tom, please do keep us posted with your specs and results. I am
staring down the road of multicore/modern CPUs myself, pocket book in hand.
Soon.........!!!!
Thanks
Rob_A
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:493ee278$1@linux...
> Hi you guys,
>
> I am in the beginning stages of setting this up on a quad core.
> I'll post results here as they come. I'm heading down to start
> installing EDS cards now.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
> news:C564189A.C02F%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>I can vouch for them working on my own computer - it isn't multi-CPU but
>> they certainly haven't broken anything I'm aware of. Point of fact none
>> of
>> the betas have been anything but solid for me. As far as the multi-CPU
>> users, the reports back are great so far, and Mike's been running them
>> solidly himself.
>>
>> I would say if you're contemplating getting into multi-CPUs, or if you've
>> ever been inconvenienced by difficulty running multiple ADAT cards in one
>> MEC under XP, this is the absolute "must-have" upgrade of the last five
>> years (since the XP drivers hit).
>>
>> Consider this too - if any issues reveal themselves post-release, these
>> drivers are written by someone who's actually an active part of this NG.
>> I
>> reckon you're going to get a heck of a lot more responsiveness from Mike
>> if
>> any issues crop up than we've been previously conditioned to expect in
>> the
>> world of PARIS :D
>>
>> AFAIK, they're XP only, not Vista. Dunno about the specific service
>> packs,
>> but we've not been told SP3 was to be avoided. Having said that, I'm
>> running
>> them on XP SP2.
>>
>> - K
>>
>> On 12/9/08 10:13 AM, in article 493ea72c$1@linux, "LaMont"
>> <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey everyone, been away from the forum. I've notice that new Driver(s)
>>> has
>>> been coded for Paris. Before I part with any money, I need to know the
>>> following..
>>>
>>> 1) Do they work?
>>> 2) Stability
>>> 3) What OS's are supported? XP-Pro, SP2, Sp3, Vista Ultimate?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>
>Hi John, as was said, please post some specs/clues of your problem so we can
try to solve your Paris issues. This forum is full of extremely
knowledgeable folks that are ready to help.
Symptoms, how many EDS, I/O interface, OS, Ram, Pwr supp....??
Good luck
Rob_A
"John Solinski" <jsolinski@penn.com> wrote in message news:493eab91@linux...
> Hi all,
>
> I'm new to the newsgroup, but have been using Paris for years. I decided
> to buy a system of my own and have had nothing but problems. Can someone
> help me?
>
> Take care,
>
> John> Soon.........!!!!
>
> Thanks
> Rob_A
Just as an aside - it's nice to see the community in the process of
reclaiming the word "soon" and giving it a "non-ironic" meaning once again.
- KerryMike I don't have an IF 2 I only got the MEC and a 442. I understood the mini
din cable went from the MEC to the 442. Am I missing so0mething?
"Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>
>Hi John,
>
>Welcome aboard!
>
>The 8 pin mini din connection is to use an IF2 (2 in 2 out module) with
the
>card. If you're using a 442 or an MEC, you'd plug the IF 2 into the 442
>or MEC for additional inputs and outputs. You shouldn't need a cable.
It's
>attached to the IF2.
>
>Installation under XP still requires some heardles, but it works. Follow
>the instructions at:
>
>http://www.parisfaqs.com/parisonxp.html
>
>I have just released a new driver that you will need if you want to run
PARIS
>on a multi-cpu or hyperthreded PC. The drivers along with some great plugins
>are available at:
>
>www.ensoniq.ca.
>
>All the best,
>
>Mike
>
>
>"John Minnella" <minnella@lfe.arizona.edu> wrote:
>>
>>I picked up a Paris with a MEC, 442, computer and Control 16. In the Paris
>>software one has to hold down the left mouse button or the menus go away.
>>We are short the 8 pin mini din cable which should be here Friday. Is there
>>some special mouse required or is this a wrinkle in this particular system?
>>
>Thanks Wayne and everyone for the welcome. My home email is jjmac2@dakotacom.net
I am in Tucson Az.....I would love to find out where to buy the DVD if someone
can email mne that.
"Wayne Carson" <waynecarson@cox.net> wrote:
>Welcome aboard J Minnella,
>
>You've now got a DAW with no midi magic but an awesome audio engine. Most
>folks use software version v3.0 and either Win98 or WinXP. Both have plus's
>and minuses. Avoid Vista on your Paris machine. It will not work.
>
>I'm happy that you found this newsgroup. Stay connected to this newsgroup.
>Everything Paris and then some can be learned here. Learn about upgrades,
>updates and bugs and fixes. These folks are great. I lurk here when I'm
at
>home in my studio. I travel a lot for a week at a time so when I return
>I've got lot's to catch up on. Take the time and you will be rewarded with
>knowledge.
>
>On your question. I've been on Paris since it's release in '97 and I still
>forget at times to hold down the left mouse click when selecting from the
>menu. It's something that you will get used to. In fact, I think it is
more
>efficient then clicking twice on the menu items. I may be wrong but I
>believe that this type of action is how MACs work. Anyhow, it's only
>peculiar in the menu area, that I recall
>
>Paris is a vintage DAW but remains a top notch audio processor even to this
>day. Get your hands on the owners, or users or reference manual for the
>software version that you use. Purchase Brian T's instructional DVD and
>most of all, push your new Paris system to the extreme. The system can
give
>you a wide open, spacious, floating on air vibe or an in your face, pulse
>pounding rock system. Use the keyboard and mouse shortcuts to really speed
>up your workflow.
>
>If you can, upgrade your playback system with a DAC and higher end monitors
>for the full enjoyment of what Paris has for you.
>
>Well, I'm headed out. See you in a week.
>
>Enjoy (I still do),
>Wayne
>
>
>
>"John Minnella" <minnella@lfe.arizona.edu> wrote in message
>news:493e8d68$1@linux...
>>
>> I picked up a Paris with a MEC, 442, computer and Control 16. In the Paris
>> software one has to hold down the left mouse button or the menus go away.
>> We are short the 8 pin mini din cable which should be here Friday. Is
>> there
>> some special mouse required or is this a wrinkle in this particular
>> system?
>>
>
>Okay as Deej suggested I am able to get four eds
sharing IRQ 20 using an older PCI Magma with
a flat Magma cable. They are in slots 1, 5, 7 and 11.
That's a gimee. Get your long ribbons made for this to work.
Next is where to put the fifth EDS, creamware and USB hardware.
They all can be finicky. I am testing every slot to see who shares
with what or what shares with whom?
I'll post my results and hardware as soon as it is helpful. Generally
Deej and I have the same comp both made by Chris Ludwig.
Mike's work has yet to be implemented. I am still in search of the
holy irq grail.
Tom
"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C5642A00.C03A%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>
>> Soon.........!!!!
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rob_A
>
> Just as an aside - it's nice to see the community in the process of
> reclaiming the word "soon" and giving it a "non-ironic" meaning once
> again.
>
> - Kerry
>Hi Tom,
I'm using the same expansion chassis, and all is well. The driver is designed
to share its IRQ. You shouldn't need to care what IRQ anything has. I've
never given it a though except when I was working with the old driver on
a multi CPU machine.
Good luck!
Mike
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>Okay as Deej suggested I am able to get four eds
>sharing IRQ 20 using an older PCI Magma with
>a flat Magma cable. They are in slots 1, 5, 7 and 11.
>That's a gimee. Get your long ribbons made for this to work.
>
>Next is where to put the fifth EDS, creamware and USB hardware.
>They all can be finicky. I am testing every slot to see who shares
>with what or what shares with whom?
>
>I'll post my results and hardware as soon as it is helpful. Generally
>Deej and I have the same comp both made by Chris Ludwig.
>
>Mike's work has yet to be implemented. I am still in search of the
>holy irq grail.
>
>Tom
>
>
>
>
>"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>news:C5642A00.C03A%kg@kerrygalloway.
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>>
>>> Soon.........!!!!
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Rob_A
>>
>> Just as an aside - it's nice to see the community in the process of
>> reclaiming the word "soon" and giving it a "non-ironic" meaning once
>> again.
>>
>> - Kerry
>>
>
>For anyone who has heard about this...
I submit that both Satriani copied the melody for the song note for note
from an earlier mid 80s new wave song. Can anyone help me remember what that
song is :-)
ChuckHi Mike,
I've had mountains of problems with video sharing, scherzo and UAD-1,
SATA controllers and scherzo.
Maybe with your driver work, PCIe and UAD-2 our IRQ problems
have been minimized. I do have 5 EDS, Creamware, UAD-2, dual head graphics
8x8 Midisport, Tranzport and PS2 and wireless key/ms.
I'm staying on the safe side. I am bringing your drivers into the rig after
I
do a backup. I also have to get 3 Mecs, 442 and wordclock cooking here.
I'll be busy tonight!
Tom
"Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote in message news:493f0c92$1@linux...
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I'm using the same expansion chassis, and all is well. The driver is
> designed
> to share its IRQ. You shouldn't need to care what IRQ anything has. I've
> never given it a though except when I was working with the old driver on
> a multi CPU machine.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>Okay as Deej suggested I am able to get four eds
>>sharing IRQ 20 using an older PCI Magma with
>>a flat Magma cable. They are in slots 1, 5, 7 and 11.
>>That's a gimee. Get your long ribbons made for this to work.
>>
>>Next is where to put the fifth EDS, creamware and USB hardware.
>>They all can be finicky. I am testing every slot to see who shares
>>with what or what shares with whom?
>>
>>I'll post my results and hardware as soon as it is helpful. Generally
>>Deej and I have the same comp both made by Chris Ludwig.
>>
>>Mike's work has yet to be implemented. I am still in search of the
>>holy irq grail.
>>
>>Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>news:C5642A00.C03A%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>>
>>>> Soon.........!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Rob_A
>>>
>>> Just as an aside - it's nice to see the community in the process of
>>> reclaiming the word "soon" and giving it a "non-ironic" meaning once
>>> again.
>>>
>>> - Kerry
>>>
>>
>>
>Hi John,
You won;t be using the mini din at all if you don't have an IF2. You will
need a 75 ohm coaxial cable to go from the MEC to the 442 or vice versa.
I hope this helps.
Mike
"John Minnella" <minnella@life.arizona.edu> wrote:
>
>Mike I don't have an IF 2 I only got the MEC and a 442. I understood the
mini
>din cable went from the MEC to the 442. Am I missing so0mething?
>"Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>>
>>Hi John,
>>
>>Welcome aboard!
>>
>>The 8 pin mini din connection is to use an IF2 (2 in 2 out module) with
>the
>>card. If you're using a 442 or an MEC, you'd plug the IF 2 into the 442
>>or MEC for additional inputs and outputs. You shouldn't need a cable.
>It's
>>attached to the IF2.
>>
>>In
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Deej [5]
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>>I have just released a new driver that you will need if you want to run
>PARIS
>>on a multi-cpu or hyperthreded PC. The drivers along with some great plugins
>>are available at:
>>
>>www.ensoniq.ca.
>>
>>All the best,
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>
>>"John Minnella" <minnella@lfe.arizona.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>I picked up a Paris with a MEC, 442, computer and Control 16. In the Paris
>>>software one has to hold down the left mouse button or the menus go away.
>>>We are short the 8 pin mini din cable which should be here Friday. Is
there
>>>some special mouse required or is this a wrinkle in this particular system?
>>>
>>
>Interesting, I thought of that earlier today. Not that I've heard the
new wave song, but it crossed my mind as a "what if" scenario.
In any event, I can't believe that it would have been intentional on
Coldplay's part.
Chuck Duffy wrote:
> For anyone who has heard about this...
>
> I submit that both Satriani copied the melody for the song note for note
> from an earlier mid 80s new wave song. Can anyone help me remember what that
> song is :-)
>
> ChuckJohn -
Welcome to the world of Paris.
Since you are in Tucson, you should lookup a fella there named Doug
Wellington. He posts here on occasion, and has a monster Paris rig. He
can probably answer most, if not all, of your questions.
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On 10 Dec 2008 09:58:08 +1000, "John Minnella"
<minnella@lfe.arizona.edu> wrote:
>
>Thanks Wayne and everyone for the welcome. My home email is jjmac2@dakotacom.net
>I am in Tucson Az.....I would love to find out where to buy the DVD if someone
>can email mne that.
>
>
>"Wayne Carson" <waynecarson@cox.net> wrote:
>>Welcome aboard J Minnella,
>>
>>You've now got a DAW with no midi magic but an awesome audio engine. Most
>
>>folks use software version v3.0 and either Win98 or WinXP. Both have plus's
>
>>and minuses. Avoid Vista on your Paris machine. It will not work.
>>
>>I'm happy that you found this newsgroup. Stay connected to this newsgroup.
>
>>Everything Paris and then some can be learned here. Learn about upgrades,
>
>>updates and bugs and fixes. These folks are great. I lurk here when I'm
>at
>>home in my studio. I travel a lot for a week at a time so when I return
>
>>I've got lot's to catch up on. Take the time and you will be rewarded with
>
>>knowledge.
>>
>>On your question. I've been on Paris since it's release in '97 and I still
>
>>forget at times to hold down the left mouse click when selecting from the
>
>>menu. It's something that you will get used to. In fact, I think it is
>more
>>efficient then clicking twice on the menu items. I may be wrong but I
>>believe that this type of action is how MACs work. Anyhow, it's only
>>peculiar in the menu area, that I recall
>>
>>Paris is a vintage DAW but remains a top notch audio processor even to this
>
>>day. Get your hands on the owners, or users or reference manual for the
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Deej [5]
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/>
>
>>software version that you use. Purchase Brian T's instructional DVD and
>
>>most of all, push your new Paris system to the extreme. The system can
>give
>>you a wide open, spacious, floating on air vibe or an in your face, pulse
>
>>pounding rock system. Use the keyboard and mouse shortcuts to really speed
>
>>up your workflow.
>>
>>If you can, upgrade your playback system with a DAC and higher end monitors
>
>>for the full enjoyment of what Paris has for you.
>>
>>Well, I'm headed out. See you in a week.
>>
>>Enjoy (I still do),
>>Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>>"John Minnella" <minnella@lfe.arizona.edu> wrote in message
>>news:493e8d68$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I picked up a Paris with a MEC, 442, computer and Control 16. In the Paris
>>> software one has to hold down the left mouse button or the menus go away.
>>> We are short the 8 pin mini din cable which should be here Friday. Is
>
>>> there
>>> some special mouse required or is this a wrinkle in this particular
>>> system?
>>>
>>
>>I hope this graphic is legible. This is where I am in the IRQ department.
16 is the only one sharing but sharing heavily. I chose this though because
Deej says this new system is very forgiving and I want 18 for the Creamware
card.
The only other choice I had was 19 which shares with the SATA RAID
controller.
I figured that would be a bad place to start bottle necking.
Speaking of which have you seen these:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-det ails.asp?EdpNo=4177125&CatId=139
I've seen them for less but whoa there's some throughput.
The new comps are really alot faster is so many ways.
My comp is running with a FSB 1333. Lordy Mama.
Time to clone.
Tom
Guess you won't be able to read that!
4 cards are on IRQ 20. That's the good news.
I didn't want to send a 7mb pic.
By the way I was wrong about the slots that were sharing IRQ 20.
In my box they were 1, 5, 8 & 12. Flat cable 13 slot Magma.
T.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:493f4d51@linux...
> I hope this graphic is legible. This is where I am in the IRQ department.
> 16 is the only one sharing but sharing heavily. I chose this though
> because
> Deej says this new system is very forgiving and I want 18 for the
> Creamware card.
> The only other choice I had was 19 which shares with the SATA RAID
> controller.
> I figured that would be a bad place to start bottle necking.
>
> Speaking of which have you seen these:
> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-det ails.asp?EdpNo=4177125&CatId=139
>
> I've seen them for less but whoa there's some throughput.
>
> The new comps are really alot faster is so many ways.
> My comp is running with a FSB 1333. Lordy Mama.
>
> Time to clone.
>
> Tom
>
>
>"Chuck Duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>For anyone who has heard about this...
>
>I submit that both Satriani copied the melody for the song note for note
>from an earlier mid 80s new wave song. Can anyone help me remember what
that
>song is :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPBObr3-GDE&feature=relat edHi folks,
Figured I should give you guys an update... After I signed up with the
NMDP, I was found to be a match for a guy with Acute Lymphoblastic
Leukemia. I will be donating bone marrow for him next week, on December
17th, 20
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Deej [5]
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08.
I don't know who he is (and I may never know) but if you would all send
your good thoughts his way, I think it would be a great thing...
Happy holidays!
Doug
On 01/16/07 Doug Wellington wrote:
> John Macy wrote:
>> Even when you know it's coming, it's very sad...
>>
>> http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=2793408
>
> Yes, sigh...
>
> Because of Michael, I signed up with the National Marrow Donor Program
> over a year ago. It's a very good thing to do. Check it out:
>
> http://www.marrow.org
>
> Doug
>
> http://www.parisfaqs.comI'm in San Diego until Thursday morning. I know it's short notice, but
does anyone want to get together tomorrow (Wednesday) night? I'm
staying at Humphrey's over on Shelter Island...
Doug
http://www.parisfaqs.comDoug,
Now there's a donation you won't forget.
Man, that's a great thing to do for somebody Doug.
I'll be sending good vibes for both of you.
Tom
"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote in message
news:493f6f13@linux...
> Hi folks,
>
> Figured I should give you guys an update... After I signed up with the
> NMDP, I was found to be a match for a guy with Acute Lymphoblastic
> Leukemia. I will be donating bone marrow for him next week, on December
> 17th, 2008.
>
> I don't know who he is (and I may never know) but if you would all send
> your good thoughts his way, I think it would be a great thing...
>
> Happy holidays!
>
> Doug
>
>
> On 01/16/07 Doug Wellington wrote:
>> John Macy wrote:
>>> Even when you know it's coming, it's very sad...
>>>
>>> http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=2793408
>>
>> Yes, sigh...
>>
>> Because of Michael, I signed up with the National Marrow Donor Program
>> over a year ago. It's a very good thing to do. Check it out:
>>
>> http://www.marrow.org
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> http://www.parisfaqs.comRan a little audio for the first time. CPU was at
0-3% throughout.
I'll start loading in some plugins and see what happens.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:493f4e74$1@linux...
> Guess you won't be able to read that!
> 4 cards are on IRQ 20. That's the good news.
> I didn't want to send a 7mb pic.
>
> By the way I was wrong about the slots that were sharing IRQ 20.
>
> In my box they were 1, 5, 8 & 12. Flat cable 13 slot Magma.
>
> T.
>
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:493f4d51@linux...
>> I hope this graphic is legible. This is where I am in the IRQ
>> department.
>> 16 is the only one sharing but sharing heavily. I chose this though
>> because
>> Deej says this new system is very forgiving and I want 18 for the
>> Creamware card.
>> The only other choice I had was 19 which shares with the SATA RAID
>> controller.
>> I figured that would be a bad place to start bottle necking.
>>
>> Speaking of which have you seen these:
>> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-det ails.asp?EdpNo=4177125&CatId=139
>>
>> I've seen them for less but whoa there's some throughput.
>>
>> The new comps are really alot faster is so many ways.
>> My comp is running with a FSB 1333. Lordy Mama.
>>
>> Time to clone.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>
>WoooHOO! Watching this with great interest.
- K
On 12/9/08 11:18 PM, in article 493f713c@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
<arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> Ran a little audio for the first time. CPU was at
> 0-3% throughout.
>
> I'll start loading in some plugins and see what happens.I have tested my AMD quad with the new drivers for some hours and no
problems at all have showed up.
Erling
"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> skrev i melding
news:C564189A.C02F%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>I can vouch for them working on my own computer - it isn't multi-CPU but
> they certainly haven't broken anything I'm aware of. Point of fact none of
> the betas have been anything but solid for me. As far as the multi-CPU
> users, the reports back are great so far, and Mike's been running them
> solidly himself.
>
> I would say if you're contemplating getting into multi-CPUs, or if you've
> ever been inconvenienced by difficulty running multiple ADAT cards in one
> MEC under XP, this is the absolute "must-have" upgrade of the last five
> years (since the XP drivers hit).
>
> Consider this too - if any issues reveal themselves post-release, these
> drivers are written by someone who's actually an active part of this NG. I
> reckon you're going to get a heck of a lot more responsiveness from Mike
> if
> any issues crop up than we've been previously conditioned to expect in the
> world of PARIS :D
>
> AFAIK, they're XP only, not Vista. Dunno about the specific service packs,
> but we've not been told SP3 was to be avoided. Having said that, I'm
> running
> them on XP SP2.
>
> - K
>
> On 12/9/08 10:13 AM, in article 493ea72c$1@linux, "LaMont"
> <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey everyone, been away from the forum. I've notice that new Driver(s)
>> has
>> been coded for Paris. Before I part with any money, I need to know the
>> following..
>>
>> 1) Do they work?
>> 2) Stability
>> 3) What OS's are supported? XP-Pro, SP2, Sp3, Vista Ultimate?
>>
>> Thanks
>He, he, it's a clasical example in "stealing" something without knowing from
where. This riff have been used in hundreds of songs the last 50 years
without anyone saying a shit; and now it seems that Satrini needs some money
on his "selfmade" riff;o)
Erling
"Chuck Duffy" <c@c.com> skrev i melding news:493f2258$1@linux...
>
> For anyone who has heard about this...
>
> I submit that both Satriani copied the melody for the song note for note
> from an earlier mid 80s new wave song. Can anyone help me remember what
> that
> song is :-)
>
> Chuckhead to la take a left go about 1974 miles and we're the last house on
the left...set back about 400" from the road; dinner is at 6.
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:13:03 -0700, Doug Wellington
<doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>I'm in San Diego until Thursday morning. I know it's short notice, but
>does anyone want to get together tomorrow (Wednesday) night? I'm
>staying at Humphrey's over on Shelter Island...
>
>Doug
>
>http://www.parisfaqs.comHe, he, there's a lot of difference in naming Satrini or Satriani;o)
Erling
"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> skrev i melding news:493f86ae@linux...
> He, he, it's a clasical example in "stealing" something without knowing
> from where. This riff have been used in hundreds of songs the last 50
> years without anyone saying a shit; and now it seems that Satrini needs
> some money on his "selfmade" riff;o)
>
> Erling
>
> "Chuck Duffy" <c@c.com> skrev i melding news:493f2258$1@linux...
>>
>> For anyone who has heard about this...
>>
>> I submit that both Satriani copied the melody for the song note for note
>> from an earlier mid 80s new wave song. Can anyone help me remember what
>> that
>> song is :-)
>>
>> Chuck
>
>
>Doug,
E-mail me.
respect
Nappy
Doug Wellington <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>I'm in San Diego until Thursday morning. I know it's short notice, but
>does anyone want to get together tomorrow (Wednesday) night? I'm
>staying at Humphrey's over on Shelter Island...
>
>Doug
>
>http://www.parisfaqs.comA few months ago I posted asking my friends to talk me out of adding a
single coil pickup to my Ibanez Artist semi-hollow electric (335-style).
I withdrew from that path of no return and installed EMG 89s. They are a
humbucker case with both a complete humbucker and a complete single coil
inside, side by side.
While I lost the predomoinance of gritty high mids that worked for some
sounds, but were a problem with others (and which I can get back easily
with tone controls), I have gained a lot of new sounds which are hugely
advantageous and make the guitar a true Gigmaster. I can use it for
jazz, rock and spanking R&B and everything in between.
It does not sound like a Strat, mind you; it doesn't have the je ne sais
quoi - dare I call it "deadness" - of a real Strat but it does give
sweet single coil sounds that fit really well in music on which I would
normally use my strat. An interesting unexpected benefit is how I love
the single coil neck position for straight ahead jazz tone.
Check 'em out!OK well now I am confused. I have the original docs and the
manual says to connect the MEC and the 442 with the mini din,
but not to plug the din cable into the EDS card. When you say
the 75 ohm cable are you talking about the word clock connections?Both the MEC and 442 connect to EDS cards by way of the SCSI-II
connection on the back of the units labeled "EDS Computer Interface"
The DIN plug labeled "To I/F2" is for just that, an IF2 interface
addition... which you are not using.
David.
John Minnella wrote:
> OK well now I am confused. I have the original docs and the
> manual says to connect the MEC and the 442 with the mini din,
> but not to plug the din cable into the EDS card. When you say
> the 75 ohm cable are you talking about the word clock connections?Hi Bill,
I had a Gibson 1964 ES-330 with P90s given to me about a year and a half
ago.
I love the single coil sound on this guitar.
I can't believe how good it sounds direct and with the Mike Audit's Paris
Amp plug.
Rock on,
Lance Reichert
"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:493fe8f0$1@linux...
>A few months ago I posted asking my friends to talk me out of adding a
>single coil pickup to my Ibanez Artist semi-hollow electric (335-style). I
>withdrew from that path of no return and installed EMG 89s. They are a
>humbucker case with both a complete humbucker and a complete single coil
>inside, side by side.
>
> While I lost the predomoinance of gritty high mids that worked for some
> sounds, but were a problem with others (and which I can get back easily
> with tone controls), I have gained a lot of new sounds which are hugely
> advantageous and make the guitar a true Gigmaster. I can use it for jazz,
> rock and spanking R&B and everything in between.
>
> It does not sound like a Strat, mind you; it doesn't have the je ne sais
> quoi - dare I call it "deadness" - of a real Strat but it does give sweet
> single coil sounds that fit really well in music on which I would normally
> use my strat. An interesting unexpected benefit is how I love the single
> coil neck position for straight ahead jazz tone.
>
> Check 'em out!Very cool thing to do, Doug. My good thoughts are with you and him, but
honestly, your good actions are worth about a million "good thoughts".
Bravo!
Doug Wellington wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Figured I should give you guys an update... After I signed up with the
> NMDP, I was found to be a match for a guy with Acute Lymphoblastic
> Leukemia. I will be donating bone marrow for him next week, on December
> 17th, 2008.
>
> I don't know who he is (and I may never know) but if you would all send
> your good thoughts his way, I think it would be a great thing...
>
> Happy holidays!
>
> Doug
>
>
> On 01/16/07 Doug Wellington wrote:
>> John Macy wrote:
>>> Even when you know it's coming, it's very sad...
>>>
>>> http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=2793408
>>
>> Yes, sigh...
>>
>> Because of Michael, I signed up with the National Marrow Donor Program
>> over a year ago. It's a very good thing to do. Check it out:
>>
>> http://www.marrow.org
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> http://www.parisfaqs.comI think the 80's New Wave song Chuck may have been thinking
about may have been the Pet Shop Boys tune... but that mashup
link I posted proves that there are quite a few songs that
sound very similar.
Neil
"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>He, he, there's a lot of difference in naming Satrini or Satriani;o)
>
>Erling
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>"Erling" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> skrev i melding news:493f86ae@linux...
>> He, he, it's a clasical example in "stealing" something without knowing
>> from where. This riff have been used in hundreds of songs the last 50
>> years without anyone saying a shit; and now it seems that Satrini needs
>> some money on his "selfmade" riff;o)
>>
>> Erling
>>
>> "Chuck Duffy" <c@c.com> skrev i melding news:493f2258$1@linux...
>>>
>>> For anyone who has heard about this...
>>>
>>> I submit that both Satriani copied the melody for the song note for note
>>> from an earlier mid 80s new wave song. Can anyone help me remember what
>>> that
>>> song is :-)
>>>
>>> Chuck
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> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2008/Ensoniq-PARIS-Wind ows-Driver-Released-.html"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2008/Ensoniq-PARIS-Wind ows-Driver-Released-.html
Hey Mike, the link to your site is wrong.
I wonder what ID is going to do when they see this? Lol!James,
Ya, it's a dead link. Good review though!
Congrats Mike. Now let's get them to update
the website to your correct address.
Tom
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2008/Ensoniq-PARIS-Wind ows-Driver-Released-.html
>
> Hey Mike, the link to your site is wrong.
>
> I wonder what ID is going to do when they see this? Lol!I would dare say ID knows. I hope it isn't letting the cat out of the bag to
say Edmund's been responsive to some of Mike's requests for help and advice
along the way.
- K
On 12/10/08 9:07 PM, in article 494091e4$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2008/Ensoniq-PARIS-Wind ows-Driver-Releas
>> ed-.html
>
> Hey Mike, the link to your site is wrong.
>
> I wonder what ID is going to do when they see this? Lol!Mike, is this true, has Edmund been giving you a hand? I think that would
be note worthy, and Edmund should get credit where credit is due, so to speak.
Not to take anything from you Mike, we all know none of this would be happening
with out your efforts. It's just that some people have a chip on their shoulder
when it comes to Edmund, and I think everybody should know that he is helping,
if that's what's going on.
James
P.S. Tell him some of us are dyeing for OSX drivers; )
Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>I would dare say ID knows. I hope it isn't letting the cat out of the bag
to
>say Edmund's been responsive to some of Mike's requests for help and advice
>along the way.
>
>- K
>
>On 12/10/08 9:07 PM, in article 494091e4$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
><excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2008/Ensoniq-PARIS-Wind ows-Driver-Releas
>>> ed-.html
>>
>> Hey Mike, the link to your site is wrong.
>>
>> I wonder what ID is going to do when they see this? Lol!
>Awesome!!
I remember the passion SSC (RIP) and Edmund had for their "baby", and their
willingness to help us "newbies" get the
most out of Paris in the early days.
Hell, I actually emailed a ppj to Edmund that became corrupt
due to the rogue segment bug, DURING a session, and by the time we had
had lunch, he emailed it back to me fixed!
That bug was fixed in v1.51 (I think).
I was freaked out by that level of commitment and caring.
Whatever happened subsequently, with the Emu takeover, and Intelligent Devices
probably being squeezed as a result,
I can understand why Edmund/SSC bailed from the NG, given the
rude pressure for bug fixes and updates to a system that was
already eminently useable and great sounding.
OK, there are limitations as far as submix inserts, global sends etc,
(perhaps due to early hardware design philosophy flaws),
but it is what it is! And If Mike has had a little help from Edmund, that's
great! Edmund is a good guy.
(Yeah, I know! No one looks good with brown lips, but hey..)
Kim
Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>I would dare say ID knows. I hope it isn't letting the cat out of the bag
to
>say Edmund's been responsive to some of Mike's requests for help and advice
>along the way.
>
>- K
>
>On 12/10/08 9:07 PM, in article 494091e4$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
><excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2008/Ensoniq-PARIS-Wind ows-Driver-Releas
>>> ed-.html
>>
>> Hey Mike, the link to your site is wrong.
>>
>> I wonder what ID is going to do when they see this? Lol!
>No, I only mentioned that in the sense that they've been in fairly regular
if infrequent contact for a long time. Don't get the wrong impression; Mike
built the drivers 100% himself, it wasn't even remotely a collaboration with
Edmund.
Edmund's been kind enough to answer Mike's infrequent and specific questions
about PARIS development over the years. I have no idea if Edmund answered
any questions about the drivers at all, but whether he did or not it would
surprise me if Edmund was completely unaware of Mike's work on them, and it
would surprise me more to hear that he or ID disapproved (I assume he/they
would have said so). I haven't got the impression Edmund or ID are opposed
to seeing enthusiasts in the community move the platform forward; I'd guess
it's more likely the opposite. But this victory lap is all Mike's.
- K
On 12/11/08 2:50 AM, in article 4940e259$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mike, is this true, has Edmund been giving you a hand? I think that would
> be note worthy, and Edmund should get credit where credit is due, so to speak.
> Not to take anything from you Mike, we all know none of this would be
> happening
> with out your efforts. It's just that some people have a chip on their
> shoulder
> when it comes to Edmund, and I think everybody should know that he is helping,
> if that's what's going on.
>
> James
>
> P.S. Tell him some of us are dyeing for OSX drivers; )
>
> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>> I would dare say ID knows. I hope it isn't letting the cat out of the bag
> to
>> say Edmund's been responsive to some of Mike's requests for help and advice
>> along the way.
>>
>> - K
>>
>> On 12/10/08 9:07 PM, in article 494091e4$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
>> <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2008/Ensoniq-PARIS-Wind ows-Driver-Rele
>>>> as
>>>> ed-.html
>>>
>>> Hey Mike, the link to your site is wrong.
>>>
>>> I wonder what ID is going to do when they see this? Lol!
>>
>Hi James,
Thanks so much for posting this! I sent them the press release last night.
They don't mess around.
I sent them an email about the website just now. It is correct in the text
that I sent them. These things happen.
Cheers!
Mike
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2008/Ensoniq-PARIS-Wind ows-Driver-Released-.html
>
>Hey Mike, the link to your site is wrong.
>
>I wonder what ID is going to do when they see this? Lol!Edmund was very helpful when I was trying to compile the Mac plugins. I wasn't
able to make it happen, but he provided resources that would be essential
to getting it done.
I have always felt that ID got a really, really bad deal when PARIS was canceled.
They invested heavily in the software expecting to be paid back over time
as more and more PARIS users bought in and later upgraded their software.
I think they basically worked for free for years and got next to nothing
in return.
Then, people around here started threatening to sue them for not doing more.
I might have walked away if I'd been in their situation , too.
I'm not quoting anything Edmund has said here. This is just my take on what
went on.
Mike
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Mike, is this true, has Edmund been giving you a hand? I think that would
>be note worthy, and Edmund should get credit where credit is due, so to
speak.
> Not to take anything from you Mike, we all know none of this would be happening
>with out your efforts. It's just that some people have a chip on their
shoulder
>when it comes to Edmund, and I think everybody should know that he is helping,
>if that's what's going on.
>
>James
>
>P.S. Tell him some of us are dyeing for OSX drivers; )
>
>Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>I would dare say ID knows. I hope it isn't letting the cat out of the bag
>to
>>say Edmund's been responsive to some of Mike's requests for help and advice
>>along the way.
>>
>>- K
>>
>>On 12/10/08 9:07 PM, in article 494091e4$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
>><excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2008/Ensoniq-PARIS-Wind ows-Driver-Releas
>>>> ed-.html
>>>
>>> Hey Mike, the link to your site is wrong.
>>>
>>> I wonder what ID is going to do when they see this? Lol!
>>
>P90s do sound really nice. I used to have a Les Paul Junior(?), AKA "TV
model", back in the '70s. A little fatter than Strats, IIRC.
lance wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> I had a Gibson 1964 ES-330 with P90s given to me about a year and a half
> ago.
> I love the single coil sound on this guitar.
> I can't believe how good it sounds direct and with the Mike Audit's
> Paris Amp plug.
>
> Rock on,
>
> Lance Reichert
>
>
> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:493fe8f0$1@linux...
>> A few months ago I posted asking my friends to talk me out of adding a
>> single coil pickup to my Ibanez Artist semi-hollow electric
>> (335-style). I withdrew from that path of no return and installed EMG
>> 89s. They are a humbucker case with both a complete humbucker and a
>> complete single coil inside, side by side.
>>
>> While I lost the predomoinance of gritty high mids that worked for
>> some sounds, but were a problem with others (and which I can get back
>> easily with tone controls), I have gained a lot of new sounds which
>> are hugely advantageous and make the guitar a true Gigmaster. I can
>> use it for jazz, rock and spanking R&B and everything in between.
>>
>> It does not sound like a Strat, mind you; it doesn't have the je ne
>> sais quoi - dare I call it "deadness" - of a real Strat but it does
>> give sweet single coil sounds that fit really well in music on which I
>> would normally use my strat. An interesting unexpected benefit is how
>> I love the single coil neck position for straight ahead jazz tone.
>>
>> Check 'em out!
>I was here when they were threatening to sue and I remember clearly why.
It's nicer to just remember the good things of the past so I'll leave it
at that. I'm glad Edmund was helpful on the quest too. Victory lap for
Mike !!!
JohnSo . . . this means when I can afford to upgrade my PARIS computer, it will
actually work?
S
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2008/Ensoniq-PARIS-Wind ows-Driver-Released-.htmlHey,
A friend of mine borrowed my old, beat up original Pod and really liked
it. I told him that by now there were probably a number of gadgets that did
it better, but not being much of a gearhead, I didn't know what to suggest.
Any ideas? (Silly question, I know.)
SThe PARIS Driver and effects subsystem was 100% Ensoniq code. I obtained this
code from Ensoniq (not ID) several years ago.
Chuck
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Mike, is this true, has Edmund been giving you a hand? I think that would
>be note worthy, and Edmund should get credit where credit is due, so to
speak.
> Not to take anything from you Mike, we all know none of this would be happening
>with out your efforts. It's just that some people have a chip on their
shoulder
>when it comes to Edmund, and I think everybody should know that he is helping,
>if that's what's going on.
>
>James
>
>P.S. Tell him some of us are dyeing for OSX drivers; )
>
>Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>I would dare say ID knows. I hope it isn't letting the cat out of the bag
>to
>>say Edmund's been responsive to some of Mike's requests for help and advice
>>along the way.
>>
>>- K
>>
>>On 12/10/08 9:07 PM, in article 494091e4$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
>><excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2008/Ensoniq-PARIS-Wind ows-Driver-Releas
>>>> ed-.html
>>>
>>> Hey Mike, the link to your site is wrong.
>>>
>>> I wonder what ID is going to do when they see this? Lol!
>>
>It may be. Thanks Neil. Whenever I hear the new Coldplay cd it suprises me
just how many of the songs are instantly recognizable and leave me wondering
where I heard them before.
"Neil" <OIUOI@OI.com> wrote:
>
>I think the 80's New Wave song Chuck may have been thinking
>about may have been the Pet Shop Boys tune... but that mashup
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>>>>
>>>> On 12/10/08 9:07 PM, in article 494091e4$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
>>>> <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2008/Ensoniq-PARIS-Wind ows-Driver-Rel
>>>>>> eas
>>>>>> ed-.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Mike, the link to your site is wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder what ID is going to do when they see this? Lol!
>>>>
>>>
>>
>very true.
TC
Kerry Galloway wrote:
> It goes without saying, but I'll say it again anyway - if it hadn't been for
> your work, we wouldn't be here today. You carried this thing on your back
> for years, and I hope it gives you a good feeling to see that work bearing
> new fruit. It really did make - and is making - all the difference.
>
> Any thoughts that we might tempt you back into the PARIS game some day? Now
> some essential infrastructure has been nailed down solidly, there might well
> be some interesting times yet to come.
>
> - K
>
> On 12/11/08 7:06 AM, in article 49411e4f$1@linux, "chuck duffy" <c@c.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The PARIS Driver and effects subsystem was 100% Ensoniq code. I obtained this
>> code from Ensoniq (not ID) several years ago.
>>
>> ChuckYes Chuck, much appreciated.
Rod
TC <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote:
>very true.
>
>TC
>
>Kerry Galloway wrote:
>> It goes without saying, but I'll say it again anyway - if it hadn't been
for
>> your work, we wouldn't be here today. You carried this thing on your back
>> for years, and I hope it gives you a good feeling to see that work bearing
>> new fruit. It really did make - and is making - all the difference.
>>
>> Any thoughts that we might tempt you back into the PARIS game some day?
Now
>> some essential infrastructure has been nailed down solidly, there might
well
>> be some interesting times yet to come.
>>
>> - K
>>
>> On 12/11/08 7:06 AM, in article 49411e4f$1@linux, "chuck duffy" <c@c.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The PARIS Driver and effects subsystem was 100% Ensoniq code. I obtained
this
>>> code from Ensoniq (not ID) several years ago.
>>>
>>> Chuck"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Awesome!!
>I remember the passion SSC (RIP) and Edmund had for their "baby", and their
>willingness to help us "newbies" get the
>most out of Paris in the early days.
>Hell, I actually emailed a ppj to Edmund that became corrupt
>due to the rogue segment bug, DURING a session, and by the time we had
>had lunch, he emailed it back to me fixed!
>That bug was fixed in v1.51 (I think).
>I was freaked out by that level of commitment and caring.
>Whatever happened subsequently, with the Emu takeover, and Intelligent Devices
>probably being squeezed as a result,
>I can understand why Edmund/SSC bailed from the NG, given the
>rude pressure for bug fixes and updates to a system that was
>already eminently useable and great sounding.
>OK, there are limitations as far as submix inserts, global sends etc,
>(perhaps due to early hardware design philosophy flaws),
>but it is what it is! And If Mike has had a little help from Edmund, that's
>great! Edmund is a good guy.
>(Yeah, I know! No one looks good with brown lips, but hey..)
>
>Kim
>
When/if Paris ever gets a reliable and simple-to-use plugin delay compensation
that can be globally disabled for OD's like the one in Cubase and is effective
with DSP cards like UAD and SSL, I will be returning to the fold. Same thing
applies if Paris is ever released in a native format.
There have been some rumblings over on the UA forums about Universal Audio
developing a zero latency DAW platform that will have the UAD-2 as onboard
FX..........sound familiar?
I actually sort of think that after having wandered in the wilderness for
the last couple of years, that having a fully loaded 3 x card system with
3 x fully loaded MECS and a few of the higher qualit
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I'm using an old Magma PCI chassis. It has a 3 volt host card that bridges
to the 5 volt backplane.
I hope this helps,
Mike
"Will Wilson" <willtheweirdo@gmail.com> wrote:
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>Old technology meet new, my head is hurting but I'm searching for answers
>to finally get a PARIS rig working with my current setup.
>Thanks,
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The paris sound, if there is a paris sound is a product of the ESP2code.
The mixer engine, the effects, it's all DSP code and it's all Ensoniq. It
wasn't modeled off of SSCs midas console, it was a labor of love of all the
dedicated ensoniq folks, who actually were musicians, understood gain structure
and good sound all the way from the converters through the dsp out the other
side to the converters. PARIS was 100% designed and manufactured in Malvern
PA for gods sakes :-)
If ID had (for example), given us the code to the patchbay, or to the effects
instantiation, we would have had a PARIS ASIO driver that could do anything
PARIS can do with 0 latency years ago. But they didn't, and they wouldn't,
and they won't, so I'm a tiny bit touchy about what Edmund is perceived as
getting credit for, even though
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and is a great buy IMHO, but I think you can also get the original box
unit like I have as well. I don't think there is any difference in sounds.
One caveat: the unit is not as robust as I think a professional piece
should be, and must be handled carefully. I have a bad output jack and
broken power switch on mine, neither of which prevent it from working. I
also have a problem with the LED readout, which is v/ dim and can barely
be read in direct sunlight. HOWEVER, considering all it does, at $400 it
is not priced like a professional piece, so I really can't complain too
much.
John wrote:
> The tonelab le is amazing and kills the rest from my world. $400. Once you
> get one you can get my patches here:
>
> www.kfocus.com/LEpatches.zip
>
>
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>> Hey,
>>
>> A friend of mine borrowed my old, beat up original Pod and really liked
>
>> it. I told him that by now there were probably a number of gadgets that
> did
>> it better, but not being much of a gearhead, I didn't know what to suggest.
>
>> Any ideas? (Silly question, I know.)
>>
>> S
>>
>>
>Hey Bill and Sarah,
I love my Tonelab too. It sounds great.
It has a broken power switch and
the leds that show preset choice won't light. It is still usable.
The two things that bug me most are the clunking
between patches and lack of decent compressors.
Outboard compression is an easy fix for that. The clunking
sound is so old school I'm used to it.
Tom
"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:4942701a$1@linux...
>I also use a Tonelab and prefer it over the rest, though the new Pod does
>not suck. The LE is a floor unit w/ complete pedal control built in and is
>a great buy IMHO, but I think you can also get the original box unit like I
>have as well. I don't think there is any difference in sounds.
>
> One caveat: the unit is not as robust as I think a professional piece
> should be, and must be handled carefully. I have a bad output jack and
> broken power switch on mine, neither of which prevent it from working. I
> also have a problem with the LED readout, which is v/ dim and can barely
> be read in direct sunlight. HOWEVER, considering all it does, at $400 it
> is not priced like a professional piece, so I really can't complain too
> much.
>
> John wrote:
>> The tonelab le is amazing and kills the rest from my world. $400. Once
>> you
>> get one you can get my patches here:
>>
>> www.kfocus.com/LEpatches.zip
>>
>>
>>
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> A friend of mine borrowed my old, beat up original Pod and really
>>> liked
>>
>>> it. I told him that by now there were probably a number of gadgets that
>> did
>>> it better, but not being much of a gearhead, I didn't know what to
>>> suggest.
>>
>>> Any ideas? (Silly question, I know.)
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>Even the lyrics make me doubletake, but I think that's cause there are a lot
of cliches. Take for example:
Those who are dead, are not dead, they are living in my head (- or something
close to that....). Where *haven't* I heard something like that before :-)
Chuck
"Neil" <OIIOU@OI.com> wrote:
>
>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>
>>It may be. Thanks Neil. Whenever I hear the new Coldplay cd it suprises
>me
>>just how many of the songs are instantly recognizable and leave me wondering
>>where I heard them before.
>
>Well, Coldplay even admitted that their last hit (I can't
>remember the name of it, sorry) evolved as a result of them
>trying to cover Kate Bush's song "Cloudbusting" (or was
>it "Running Up that Hill"??? Can't recall what they said),
>and not being able to do it properly, so they just ended up
>taking the closest version they could get and turning it into a
>song of their own.
>
>So, maybe they're notorious for this, and THAT's why their new
>songs sound so familiar... maybe they're all songs you've
>already heard, just re-worked.
>
>;)
>
>
>What's the clunking sound?
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Hey Bill and Sarah,
>
> I love my Tonelab too. It sounds great.
>
> It has a broken power switch and
> the leds that show preset choice won't light. It is still usable.
> The two things that bug me most are the clunking
> between patches and lack of decent compressors.
> Outboard compression is an easy fix for that. The clunking
> sound is so old school I'm used to it.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:4942701a$1@linux...
>> I also use a Tonelab and prefer it over the rest, though the new Pod does
>> not suck. The LE is a floor unit w/ complete pedal control built in and is
>> a great buy IMHO, but I think you can also get the original box unit like I
>> have as well. I don't think there is any difference in sounds.
>>
>> One caveat: the unit is not as robust as I think a professional piece
>> should be, and must be handled carefully. I have a bad output jack and
>> broken power switch on mine, neither of which prevent it from working. I
>> also have a problem with the LED readout, which is v/ dim and can barely
>> be read in direct sunlight. HOWEVER, considering all it does, at $400 it
>> is not priced like a professional piece, so I really can't complain too
>> much.
>>
>> John wrote:
>>> The tonelab le is amazing and kills the rest from my world. $400. Once
>>> you
>>> get one you can get my patches here:
>>>
>>> www.kfocus.com/LEpatches.zip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>> Hey,
>>>>
>>>> A friend of mine borrowed my old, beat up original Pod and really
>>>> liked
>>>> it. I told him that by now there were probably a number of gadgets that
>>> did
>>>> it better, but not being much of a gearhead, I didn't know what to
>>>> suggest.
>>>> Any ideas? (Silly question, I know.)
>>>>
>>>> S
>>>>
>
>you must not have the LEBill,
EYE----LLLLLLOOOOOVVVVVVEEEEEE EMG's. There are only a few passives that I
wish for and I do have them (the Bill Lawrence L500 being 3 of them). I've
got a set of original SA's in a strat I built 22 years ago. Rod Lincoln
will probably remember seeing this guitar as I had just finished it when he
and I did a little touring together. I haven't touched the guitar since the
day I put it together. These SA's have seen action every day with rare
exception for 22 years and they still blow me and everybody else away.
W. Mark Wilson
"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:493fe8f0$1@linux...
>A few months ago I posted asking my friends to talk me out of adding a
>single coil pickup to my Ibanez Artist semi-hollow electric (335-style). I
>withdrew from that path of no return and installed EMG 89s. They are a
>humbucker case with both a complete humbucker and a complete single coil
>inside, side by side.
>
> While I lost the predomoinance of gritty high mids that worked for some
> sounds, but were a problem with others (and which I can get back easily
> with tone controls), I have gained a lot of new sounds which are hugely
> advantageous and make the guitar a true Gigmaster. I can use it for jazz,
> rock and spanking R&B and everything in between.
>
> It does not sound like a Strat, mind you; it doesn't have the je ne sais
> quoi - dare I call it "deadness" - of a real Strat but it does give sweet
> single coil sounds that fit really well in music on which I would normally
> use my strat. An interesting unexpected benefit is how I love the single
> coil neck position for straight ahead jazz tone.
>
> Check 'em out!Hey Bill,
Thanks for the update, those look like cool pups. It's nice to be able
to take a favorite axe and make it more versatile.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Bill L wrote:
> A few months ago I posted asking my friends to talk me out of adding a
> single coil pickup to my Ibanez Artist semi-hollow electric (335-style).
> I withdrew from that path of no return and installed EMG 89s. They are a
> humbucker case with both a complete humbucker and a complete single coil
> inside, side by side.
>
> While I lost the predomoinance of gritty high mids that worked for some
> sounds, but were a problem with others (and which I can get back easily
> with tone controls), I have gained a lot of new sounds which are hugely
> advantageous and make the guitar a true Gigmaster. I can use it for
> jazz, rock and spanking R&B and everything in between.
>
> It does not sound like a Strat, mind you; it doesn't have the je ne sais
> quoi - dare I call it "deadness" - of a real Strat but it does give
> sweet single coil sounds that fit really well in music on which I would
> normally use my strat. An interesting unexpected benefit is how I love
> the single coil neck position for straight ahead jazz tone.
>
> Check 'em out!John,
I have the regular Tonelab SE. If they fixed the problems
I've sighted that's great. I tried contacting them with
suggestions but never got any replies.
How many compressors are available in the LE?
Tom
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:49428e90$1@linux...
>
> you must not have the LE http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2008/E-MU-Macintosh-Dri ver-Stack.html
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2008/Ensoniq-PARIS-Wind ows-Driver-Released-.htmlFor me the LE is dreamy. Here's a list of all the models in it.
Effects are on their own tab at the bottom of the spreadsheet.
www.kfocus.com/Tonelab_LE_Models.xls
It has one compressor and it is the
MXR Super Comp (Dyna Comp + Attack control)
JohnMark, I've got SAs in my custom mid-80's "strat" too (my guitar tech
calls it my "pointy guitar" 'cause of that 80's headstock), and I still
love 'em. On the strat I installed a mid boost circuit replacing the 3rd
pot (I found a tone control on the bridge pickup oxymoronic anyway).
This circuit gives a little more balls for crunch and sometimes a little
extra body for playing jazz or fusion (which I try to avoid with this
guitar). Anyway, I do agree EMGs are sweet.
One thing I was not aware of until reading the diagram for this install
(which was a bitch in a semi-hollow, BTW) is that they recommend
adjusting their PUPs as close to the string as possible for maximum
tone. They state that the mag field is so weak there is no danger of
string pull.
W. Mark Wilson wrote:
> Bill,
>
> EYE----LLLLLLOOOOOVVVVVVEEEEEE EMG's. There are only a few passives that I
> wish for and I do have them (the Bill Lawrence L500 being 3 of them). I've
> got a set of original SA's in a strat I built 22 years ago. Rod Lincoln
> will probably remember seeing this guitar as I had just finished it when he
> and I did a little touring together. I haven't touched the guitar since the
> day I put it together. These SA's have seen action every day with rare
> exception for 22 years and they still blow me and everybody else away.
>
> W. Mark Wilson
>
> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:493fe8f0$1@linux...
>> A few months ago I posted asking my friends to talk me out of adding a
>> single coil pickup to my Ibanez Artist semi-hollow electric (335-style). I
>> withdrew from that path of no return and installed EMG 89s. They are a
>> humbucker case with both a complete humbucker and a complete single coil
>> inside, side by side.
>>
>> While I lost the predomoinance of gritty high mids that worked for some
>> sounds, but were a problem with others (and which I can get back easily
>> with tone controls), I have gained a lot of new sounds which are hugely
>> advantageous and make the guitar a true Gigmaster. I can use it for jazz,
>> rock and spanking R&B and everything in between.
>>
>> It does not sound like a Strat, mind you; it doesn't have the je ne sais
>> quoi - dare I call it "deadness" - of a real Strat but it does give sweet
>> single coil sounds that fit really well in music on which I would normally
>> use my strat. An interesting unexpected benefit is how I love the single
>> coil neck position for straight ahead jazz tone.
>>
>> Check 'em out!
>
>Looks the same list as the SE. I don't mind the compressor, myself. It's
no dbx 160X (which I used to use in my guitar rack), but what the hey. I
don't want to carry a rack any more (or need cartage for doing a gig!)
I'm not a huge fan of the reverbs, though. I hope they do a more up
market model someday with better f/x and a more robust box. How is the
LE for roadworthiness?
John wrote:
> For me the LE is dreamy. Here's a list of all the models in it.
> Effects are on their own tab at the bottom of the spreadsheet.
>
> www.kfocus.com/Tonelab_LE_Models.xls
>
> It has one compressor and it is the
> MXR Super Comp (Dyna Comp + Attack control)
>
> JohnVery interesting, and a good move.
- K
On 12/13/08 1:59 AM, in article 49437978$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2008/E-MU-Macintosh-Dri ver-Stack.htmlBill,
They look quite similar to each other however the
LE is 24 bit with SPDIF. There's a plus for recording.
I'd like to A-B them to see how much the tones differ.
Tom
"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:4943f5f2$1@linux...
> Looks the same list as the SE. I don't mind the compressor, myself. It's
> no dbx 160X (which I used to use in my guitar rack), but what the hey. I
> don't want to carry a rack any more (or need cartage for doing a gig!)
>
> I'm not a huge fan of the reverbs, though. I hope they do a more up market
> model someday with better f/x and a more robust box. How is the LE for
> roadworthiness?
>
> John wrote:
>> For me the LE is dreamy. Here's a list of all the models in it.
>> Effects are on their own tab at the bottom of the spreadsheet.
>>
>> www.kfocus.com/Tonelab_LE_Models.xls
>>
>> It has one compressor and it is the MXR Super Comp (Dyna Comp + Attack
>> control)
>>
>> JohnHi all. I haven't recorded in years, and am surprised at some recent posts
about Paris updates - have to read more about that - but I was wondering
what users find as good transition software when moving from Paris?
I'm currently messing around with Ableton Live Lite and finding it kindof
frustrating at first, and have worked some with Acid - actually like how
easily it works with loops. Ableton would seem to be better platform for
looping stuff - I'm a guitarist and like layering parts - but I'm not exactly
getting the ease of use part of things yet. I actually moved the loops I
recorded in Ableton to Acid just to work on the composition which seemed
kindof messy in Ableton.
But for mixing I can't see doing any serious mixing or recording more than
simple takes on these other systems.
I am interested in composing some stuff with midi and virtual instruments
and Tracktion might be worth considering for that given Garriton personal
orchestra. I also have some LE versions of Cubase and SONAR that came with
my EMU1212 soundcard but I haven't tried yet. I used to play around with
Voyetra Pro for pianoscroll and stepwrite writing midi songs and had fun
with that, but gotta think there's a good usable mix of midi and real life
audio out there that's not too complicated. I'd love to be able to mix in
some cool sounding synths like a B3, and also have drum loop grooves integrate
easily.
I haven't been able to listen to many of the midi tunes I wrote years ago
with any quality because I haven't had a decent general midi soundset to
play them back with - it seems like midi has moved past that concept of sound
to things and software I don't understand.
Anyhow, I appreciate any suggestion folks might have for what other softwares
share the same mindspace of design as Paris, but also let me easily integrate
with midi sounds and drum loops.
thanks in advance for feedback, ShaneI have Tonelab LE here, but havn't learned so much of it yet, other then it
have a marvelous sound. So I had to own one:-)
Erling
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> skrev i melding news:49411982@linux...
> Hey,
>
> A friend of mine borrowed my old, beat up original Pod and really liked
> it. I told him that by now there were probably a number of gadgets that
> did it better, but not being much of a gearhead, I didn't know what to
> suggest. Any ideas? (Silly question, I know.)
>
> S
>Get my patches here:
http://www.kfocus.com/LEpatches.zip
and the list of models emulated.....
http://www.kfocus.com/Tonelab_LE_Models.xls
This thing is my baby !
JohnI would recommend finding out what others who make the style of music you
like are using and then use that system. This way you are benefiting from
the sweat of others finding out what works.
I'm in cubase and love if for what I'm doing which is very little midi just
because i don't like midi. I do pretty much all audio tracks. Once you
find out what you are going to use plan on committing to reading the manuals
and a steep learning curve but since you are committed, you can spend 100
hours learning the basics and take it with you for many years.
JohnI don't know jack about spdif but I bought a toslink to rca convertor for
my LE spdif so it could go into my RME audio card (9652) but found out that
since I'm recording at 48k and using my digimax fs as master that I can't
use the LE spdif. it appears to ONLY work at 44.1 and can't slave to 48,
so i sold the converter. I'm doing just audio out and it sounds awesome.
The noise gate on the LE is amazing.
JohnDoes anyone know of a site that has audio samples of the various
modelers and amp emulators?
Sarah wrote:
> Hey,
>
> A friend of mine borrowed my old, beat up original Pod and really liked
> it. I told him that by now there were probably a number of gadgets that did
> it better, but not being much of a gearhead, I didn't know what to suggest.
> Any ideas? (Silly question, I know.)
>
> S
>
>Ya the noise gate on the SE is also great.
They did a lot of things right in those boxes.
Tom
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4945124d$1@linux...
>
> I don't know jack about spdif but I bought a toslink to rca convertor for
> my LE spdif so it could go into my RME audio card (9652) but found out
> that
> since I'm recording at 48k and using my digimax fs as master that I can't
> use the LE spdif. it appears to ONLY work at 44.1 and can't slave to 48,
> so i sold the converter. I'm doing just audio out and it sounds awesome.
> The noise gate on the LE is amazing.
>
> Johnthanks John, but I don't have 100 hours to learn - I'm trying to maximize
creativity time. I'm mostly a hobbyist with a more than fulltime day job
that takes most of my energy. Free time to devote to music is considerably
limited. I've got a bit of free time around the holidays with a few days
off to think about things and direction, but...
thanks for comment on cubase. Do you find cubase concepts similar to the
way Paris works?
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>I would recommend finding out what others who make the style of music you
>like are using and then use that system. This way you are benefiting from
>the sweat of others finding out what works.
>
>I'm in cubase and love if for what I'm doing which is very little midi just
>because i don't like midi. I do pretty much all audio tracks. Once you
>find out what you are going to use plan on committing to reading the manuals
>and a steep learning curve but since you are committed, you can spend 100
>hours learning the basics and take it with you for many years.
>
>JohnShane,
If time is so important why not stay with Paris if you know it?
I like Cubase. It's mixer is similar in function to Paris. Routing
is more advanced. Midi is great. There is a learning curve though.
The mix bus is clean. It won't allow abuse like Paris.
Tom
"Shane M" <shanem@nospam.com> wrote in message news:49454cca$1@linux...
>
> thanks John, but I don't have 100 hours to learn - I'm trying to maximize
> creativity time. I'm mostly a hobbyist with a more than fulltime day job
> that takes most of my energy. Free time to devote to music is
> considerably
> limited. I've got a bit of free time around the holidays with a few days
> off to think about things and direction, but...
>
> thanks for comment on cubase. Do you find cubase concepts similar to the
> way Paris works?
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>I would recommend finding out what others who make the style of music you
>>like are using and then use that system. This way you are benefiting from
>>the sweat of others finding out what works.
>>
>>I'm in cubase and love if for what I'm doing which is very little midi
>>just
>>because i don't like midi. I do pretty much all audio tracks. Once you
>>find out what you are going to use plan on committing to reading the
>>manuals
>>and a steep learning curve but since you are committed, you can spend 100
>>hours learning the basics and take it with you for many years.
>>
>>John
>Tom, I think for mixing bigger stuff I will, and definitely for tracking
with a band as I don't have enough inputs in other apps and Paris is so easy
for that, but I'm looking to use tools for songwriting and composition too,
and am finding on the fly looping like Ableton Live very cool for working
out song layers (and just fun).
The interest in midi functionality is because I used to write alot of stuff
with stepwrite (i'm not a good key player) doing soundtrack and instrumental
pieces. just looking for different flavors of stuff without necessarily
learning entirely new and vastly different workflow.
I'm mainly a rock guy, but I've even have a hip-hop tune in my head for several
years that I want to give a go and I'm clueless as to how to approach all
the sounds I'm hearing.
thanks for the second on Cubase.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>Shane,
>
>If time is so important why not stay with Paris if you know it?
>
>I like Cubase. It's mixer is similar in function to Paris. Routing
>is more advanced. Midi is great. There is a learning curve though.
>The mix bus is clean. It won't allow abuse like Paris.
>
>Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>"Shane M" <shanem@nospam.com> wrote in message news:49454cca$1@linux...
>>
>> thanks John, but I don't have 100 hours to learn - I'm trying to maximize
>> creativity time. I'm mostly a hobbyist with a more than fulltime day
job
>> that takes most of my energy. Free time to devote to music is
>> considerably
>> limited. I've got a bit of free time around the holidays with a few days
>> off to think about things and direction, but...
>>
>> thanks for comment on cubase. Do you find cubase concepts similar to
the
>> way Paris works?
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I would recommend finding out what others who make the style of music
you
>>>like are using and then use that system. This way you are benefiting
from
>>>the sweat of others finding out what works.
>>>
>>>I'm in cubase and love if for what I'm doing which is very little midi
>>>just
>>>because i don't like midi. I do pretty much all audio tracks. Once you
>>>find out what you are going to use plan on committing to reading the
>>>manuals
>>>and a steep learning curve but since you are committed, you can spend
100
>>>hours learning the basics and take it with you for many years.
>>>
>>>John
>>
>
>The concepts are the same. You have mix channels, inserts and sends for
fx and automation for remembering your moves. There is a lot to cubase though
and I would not recommend anyone go into it for a quick anything.
I do love the program though and know enough now that it doesn't get in my
way and really let's me play music instead of rebooting and dinking with
computers which I have done enough of for the past 20 years. I'd much rather
make music.
Cubase let's me do that perfectly. It really is exactly what I need. Other's
have different needs though so it's very important to know the strengths
and weaknesses of each before diving into any daw.
I'm a hobbiest too but I like to have powerful apps and those do take some
time to learn but with my passion for music it has been well worth the time
I have invested in learning it. I actually just submitted 3 articles on
cubase to a new cubase magazine so we'll see if I get published.
I hope you find exactly the app that suits your needs. Take your time though
and find out what features you need.
JohnI got a wild hair and thought I would do a quick reality-check marketing
survey.
1. Would you be interested to visit a website where you could hear
comparison audio samples of competing musical equipment products, for
example: Guitar Modelers, Guitar Amps, Synthesizers, Instruments, Audio
Effects Plugins, Synth Plugins?
2. If so, what types of products would you be most interested to hear
compared?
Thanks!I have not found any product to be especially easier or more similar to
Paris than any other. My advice would be Cubase for PC or Mac or Logic
for Mac. Both are very rich in features and powerful, plus they come
with a bunch of synths and effects. I use Cubase 4 and love it.
Shane M wrote:
> Hi all. I haven't recorded in years, and am surprised at some recent posts
> about Paris updates - have to read more about that - but I was wondering
> what users find as good transition software when moving from Paris?
>
> I'm currently messing around with Ableton Live Lite and finding it kindof
> frustrating at first, and have worked some with Acid - actually like how
> easily it works with loops. Ableton would seem to be better platform for
> looping stuff - I'm a guitarist and like layering parts - but I'm not exactly
> getting the ease of use part of things yet. I actually moved the loops I
> recorded in Ableton to Acid just to work on the composition which seemed
> kindof messy in Ableton.
>
> But for mixing I can't see doing any serious mixing or recording more than
> simple takes on these other systems.
>
> I am interested in composing some stuff with midi and virtual instruments
> and Tracktion might be worth considering for that given Garriton personal
> orchestra. I also have some LE versions of Cubase and SONAR that came with
> my EMU1212 soundcard but I haven't tried yet. I used to play around with
> Voyetra Pro for pianoscroll and stepwrite writing midi songs and had fun
> with that, but gotta think there's a good usable mix of midi and real life
> audio out there that's not too complicated. I'd love to be able to mix in
> some cool sounding synths like a B3, and also have drum loop grooves integrate
> easily.
>
> I haven't been able to listen to many of the midi tunes I wrote years ago
> with any quality because I haven't had a decent general midi soundset to
> play them back with - it seems like midi has moved past that concept of sound
> to things and software I don't understand.
>
> Anyhow, I appreciate any suggestion folks might have for what other softwares
> share the same mindspace of design as Paris, but also let me easily integrate
> with midi sounds and drum loops.
>
> thanks in advance for feedback, Shanere: "really let's me play music instead of rebooting and dinking with computers"
thanks John, that's exactly where I'm coming from. If I have an hour after
work I have to make it count. There's kindof a buzzkill if it isn't fun
quick. I'm reading through the Cubase site now and will give this LE version
I have some time over the next few days.
Good luck on magazine articles. My wife does some freelancing - it's a tough
way to go - but she says it's way better than her old day job.
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>The concepts are the same. You have mix channels, inserts and sends for
>fx and automation for remembering your moves. There is a lot to cubase
though
>and I would not recommend anyone go into it for a quick anything.
>
>I do love the program though and know enough now that it doesn't get in
my
>way and really let's me play music instead of rebooting and dinking with
>computers which I have done enough of for the past 20 years. I'd much rather
>make music.
>
>Cubase let's me do that perfectly. It really is exactly what I need. Other's
>have different needs though so it's very important to know the strengths
>and weaknesses of each before diving into any daw.
>
>I'm a hobbiest too but I like to have powerful apps and those do take some
>time to learn but with my passion for music it has been well worth the time
>I have invested in learning it. I actually just submitted 3 articles on
>cubase to a new cubase magazine so we'll see if I get published.
>
>I hope you find exactly the app that suits your needs. Take your time though
>and find out what features you need.
>
>JohnIf you haven't seen REAPER, you can download it here and try it to see if
it suits your needs. If you like it, the license (honor system) is $50 for
your needs (it's higher for commercial use). There aren't a lot of built-in
instruments but if you check their forums there are links to a wide range of
good quality freeware instruments and other plugins.
REAPER rocks. It's worth giving it a try - if you like it, the price is
right, the features brilliant and it's certainly all the power and
flexibility you'd ever need.
http://www.reaper.fm/
- K
On 12/14/08 3:13 AM, in article 4944dc56$1@linux, "Shane M"
<shanem@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all. I haven't recorded in years, and am surprised at some recent posts
> about Paris updates - have to read more about that - but I was wondering
> what users find as good transition software when moving from Paris?
>
> I'm currently messing around with Ableton Live Lite and finding it kindof
> frustrating at first, and have worked some with Acid - actually like how
> easily it works with loops. Ableton would seem to be better platform for
> looping stuff - I'm a guitarist and like layering parts - but I'm not exactly
> getting the ease of use part of things yet. I actually moved the loops I
> recorded in Ableton to Acid just to work on the composition which seemed
> kindof messy in Ableton.
>
> But for mixing I can't see doing any serious mixing or recording more than
> simple takes on these other systems.
>
> I am interested in composing some stuff with midi and virtual instruments
> and Tracktion might be worth considering for that given Garriton personal
> orchestra. I also have some LE versions of Cubase and SONAR that came with
> my EMU1212 soundcard but I haven't tried yet. I used to play around with
> Voyetra Pro for pianoscroll and stepwrite writing midi songs and had fun
> with that, but gotta think there's a good usable mix of midi and real life
> audio out there that's not too complicated. I'd love to be able to mix in
> some cool sounding synths like a B3, and also have drum loop grooves integrate
> easily.
>
> I haven't been able to listen to many of the midi tunes I wrote years ago
> with any quality because I haven't had a decent general midi soundset to
> play them back with - it seems like midi has moved past that concept of sound
> to things and software I don't understand.
>
> Anyhow, I appreciate any suggestion folks might have for what other softwares
> share the same mindspace of design as Paris, but also let me easily integrate
> with midi sounds and drum loops.
>
> thanks in advance for feedback, Shanethanks Bill. seems like the weight of evidence is saying check out Cubase.
That's what I'm checking out next (after I push a little farther with an
Ableton jam LOL).
Anybody else out there approaching this from a songwriting/creativity angle?
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>I have not found any product to be especially easier or more similar to
>Paris than any other. My advice would be Cubase for PC or Mac or Logic
>for Mac. Both are very rich in features and powerful, plus they come
>with a bunch of synths and effects. I use Cubase 4 and love it.
>I was just goig to suggest REAPER. Haven't had a chance to work with it yet,
but it sure looks promising.
Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>If you haven't seen REAPER, you can download it here and try it to see
if
>it suits your needs. If you like it, the license (honor system) is $50 for
>your needs (it's higher for commercial use). There aren't a lot of built-in
>instruments but if you check their forums there are links to a wide range
of
>good quality freeware instruments and other plugins.
>
>REAPER rocks. It's worth giving it a try - if you like it, the price is
>right, the features brilliant and it's certainly all the power and
>flexibility you'd ever need.
>
>http://www.reaper.fm/
>
>- K
>
>
>On 12/14/08 3:13 AM, in article 4944dc56$1@linux, "Shane M"
><shanem@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all. I haven't recorded in years, and am surprised at some recent
posts
>> about Paris updates - have to read more about that - but I was wondering
>> what users find as good transition software when moving from Paris?
>>
>> I'm currently messing around with Ableton Live Lite and finding it kindof
>> frustrating at first, and have worked some with Acid - actually like how
>> easily it works with loops. Ableton would seem to be better platform
for
>> looping stuff - I'm a guitarist and like layering parts - but I'm not
exactly
>> getting the ease of use part of things yet. I actually moved the loops
I
>> recorded in Ableton to Acid just to work on the composition which seemed
>> kindof messy in Ableton.
>>
>> But for mixing I can't see doing any serious mixing or recording more
than
>> simple takes on these other systems.
>>
>> I am interested in composing some stuff with midi and virtual instruments
>> and Tracktion might be worth considering for that given Garriton personal
>> orchestra. I also have some LE versions of Cubase and SONAR that came
with
>> my EMU1212 soundcard but I haven't tried yet. I used to play around with
>> Voyetra Pro for pianoscroll and stepwrite writing midi songs and had fun
>> with that, but gotta think there's a good usable mix of midi and real
life
>> audio out there that's not too complicated. I'd love to be able to mix
in
>> some cool sounding synths like a B3, and also have drum loop grooves integrate
>> easily.
>>
>> I haven't been able to listen to many of the midi tunes I wrote years
ago
>> with any quality because I haven't had a decent general midi soundset
to
>> play them back with - it seems like midi has moved past that concept of
sound
>> to things and software I don't understand.
>>
>> Anyhow, I appreciate any suggestion folks might have for what other softwares
>> share the same mindspace of design as Paris, but also let me easily integrate
>> with midi sounds and drum loops.
>>
>> thanks in advance for feedback, Shane
>Thanks Deej, we've had power out for a few days here. Finally disconnected
the generator, power returned today. So I see you're not using this with
Paris. I assume you have automatic delay compensation in Cubase. So you have
no latency issues?
Rich
"Deej" <nowAY@JOSE.ENT> wrote in message news:4933083f$1@linux...
>
> Rich.......
>
>
>>
>>1. It uses only its own DSP right?
>
> right
>
>>2. It works as a host compatible VST plugin within Paris right?
>
> I don't know about use with Paris. I would imagine that the latency is
> going
> to be similar to that with the UAD-1.
>
>>3. Is anyone using it with Paris?
>
> ?
>
>
>>4. There shouldn't be any latency issues right?
>
> See above. I would imagine that there is a lot of latency. One place to
> check
> this would be here:
> http://www.mixbuss.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=847&highlig ht=protools
>
> Looks like Duende and PTLE are having a hell of a time. PTLE does not have
> automatic delay compensation. Also, I wouldn't really recommend the FW
> unit.
> the PCIe unit is very stable, but the firewire units are having lots of
> issues.
>
>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Rich
>>
>>
>Thanks for the reply Ted. If you've already read further in DJ's reply here,
there are some issues with the firewire version of Duende and possibly
latency issues similar to those in the UAD-1. Noone seems to be using Duende
PCIe with Paris I assume, since noone has weighed in regarding such, besides
Deej and yourself. If you decide to give it a test run let us know how
things are working within Paris.
Rich
"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:49321aff$1@linux...
>
> Deej isn't currently using PARIS, so he's using Duende
> with CuBase. I've have asked repeatedly if anyone is using
> an external firewire DSP box with PARIS (Duende, Liquid Mix etc)
> but I don't think anyone is. I would finally switch to PC if
> someone could tell me these things work.
>
> Ted
>
>
> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>If these are dumb questions just say so :-)
>>
>>Rich
>>
>>"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>news:49321061@linux...
>>> Deej and anyone else who would like to add to this, I've been doing a
>
>>> little reading about the SSL Duende and have some questions about the
>
>>> piece. I'm not clear on a few things.
>>>
>>> 1. It uses only its own DSP right?
>>> 2. It works as a host compatible VST plugin within Paris right?
>>> 3. Is anyone using it with Paris?
>>> 4. There shouldn't be any latency issues right?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rich
>>>
>>
>>
>I've got Reaper on my laptop (MBP), and it is a very intuitive and well
designed program.
Easy to get your head around, with no steep learning curve.
BTW, I'm not sure what John is talking about when he says that Cubase has a
steep learning curve...it too is very intuitive.
Getting into the intricacies may take some using, but you can make music
pretty much straight away...IMHO.
Having said that, I haven't used it for a couple of years, I now use Pro
Tools and Logic, ( which I really like, and is extremely powerful)
Martin H
On 15/12/08 10:57 AM, in article 49458f40$1@linux, "jim drago"
<jimdrago@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> I was just goig to suggest REAPER. Haven't had a chance to work with it yet,
> but it sure looks promising.
> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>> If you haven't seen REAPER, you can download it here and try it to see
> if
>> it suits your needs. If you like it, the license (honor system) is $50 for
>> your needs (it's higher for commercial use). There aren't a lot of built-in
>> instruments but if you check their forums there are links to a wide range
> of
>> good quality freeware instruments and other plugins.
>>
>> REAPER rocks. It's worth giving it a try - if you like it, the price is
>> right, the features brilliant and it's certainly all the power and
>> flexibility you'd ever need.
>>
>> http://www.reaper.fm/
>>
>> - K
>>
>>
>> On 12/14/08 3:13 AM, in article 4944dc56$1@linux, "Shane M"
>> <shanem@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all. I haven't recorded in years, and am surprised at some recent
> posts
>>> about Paris updates - have to read more about that - but I was wondering
>>> what users find as good transition software when moving from Paris?
>>>
>>> I'm currently messing around with Ableton Live Lite and finding it kindof
>>> frustrating at first, and have worked some with Acid - actually like how
>>> easily it works with loops. Ableton would seem to be better platform
> for
>>> looping stuff - I'm a guitarist and like layering parts - but I'm not
> exactly
>>> getting the ease of use part of things yet. I actually moved the loops
> I
>>> recorded in Ableton to Acid just to work on the composition which seemed
>>> kindof messy in Ableton.
>>>
>>> But for mixing I can't see doing any serious mixing or recording more
> than
>>> simple takes on these other systems.
>>>
>>> I am interested in composing some stuff with midi and virtual instruments
>>> and Tracktion might be worth considering for that given Garriton personal
>>> orchestra. I also have some LE versions of Cubase and SONAR that came
> with
>>> my EMU1212 soundcard but I haven't tried yet. I used to play around with
>>> Voyetra Pro for pianoscroll and stepwrite writing midi songs and had fun
>>> with that, but gotta think there's a good usable mix of midi and real
> life
>>> audio out there that's not too complicated. I'd love to be able to mix
> in
>>> some cool sounding synths like a B3, and also have drum loop grooves
>>> integrate
>>> easily.
>>>
>>> I haven't been able to listen to many of the midi tunes I wrote years
> ago
>>> with any quality because I haven't had a decent general midi soundset
> to
>>> play them back with - it seems like midi has moved past that concept of
> sound
>>> to things and software I don't understand.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, I appreciate any suggestion folks might have for what other
>>> softwares
>>> share the same mindspace of design as Paris, but also let me easily
>>> integrate
>>> with midi sounds and drum loops.
>>>
>>> thanks in advance for feedback, Shane
>>
>
Martin H
Lend An Ear SoundI'll add a two thumbs up for Reaper here. My Paris DAW sits idle in
the corner, while my primary recording setup is a homebuilt
Reaper/UAD-1 computer with a Tascam DM4800 into a MOTU 2408mk3 front
end. Mostly, I use the Tascam as a control surface for Reaper, since I
don't track too much these days. A lot of my tunes recently are
assembled in Acid, then exported as individual tracks for mixdown in
the Reaper DAW using the Tascam to write automation.
Paris will still have a place here, I think, since I have it in a
semi-portable rack, so I could use it to track in other rooms, then
mix in Paris or move tracks into Reaper.
A couple of cool things to point out about Reaper. It supports skins
and the user community has come up with dozens of them. This is really
useful for making it user-friendly to me, since no other DAW software
caressed my eyes like Paris. Wish someone with talent would come up
with a Paris skin.
Second, while Reaper doesn't come with too many instrument plugins, it
does have a sick collection of effect plugs, and I have found ReaFIR
to be a powerful, surgical eq tool.
Finally, there is a growing, fanatical user base, who have produced
lots of documentation, howtos and even videos. New versions come out
about once per month, and the developer is actively involved with the
online forum.
If you want more testimonials, talk to Chris Ludwig.
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:43:15 -0800, Kerry Galloway
<kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>If you haven't seen REAPER, you can download it here and try it to see if
>it suits your needs. If you like it, the license (honor system) is $50 for
>your needs (it's higher for commercial use). There aren't a lot of built-in
>instruments but if you check their forums there are links to a wide range of
>good quality freeware instruments and other plugins.
>
>REAPER rocks. It's worth giving it a try - if you like it, the price is
>right, the features brilliant and it's certainly all the power and
>flexibility you'd ever need.
>
>http://www.reaper.fm/
>
>- K
>
>
>On 12/14/08 3:13 AM, in article 4944dc56$1@linux, "Shane M"
><shanem@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all. I haven't recorded in years, and am surprised at some recent posts
>> about Paris updates - have to read more about that - but I was wondering
>> what users find as good transition software when moving from Paris?
>>
>> I'm currently messing around with Ableton Live Lite and finding it kindof
>> frustrating at first, and have worked some with Acid - actually like how
>> easily it works with loops. Ableton would seem to be better platform for
>> looping stuff - I'm a guitarist and like layering parts - but I'm not exactly
>> getting the ease of use part of things yet. I actually moved the loops I
>> recorded in Ableton to Acid just to work on the composition which seemed
>> kindof messy in Ableton.
>>
>> But for mixing I can't see doing any serious mixing or recording more than
>> simple takes on these other systems.
>>
>> I am interested in composing some stuff with midi and virtual instruments
>> and Tracktion might be worth considering for that given Garriton personal
>> orchestra. I also have some LE versions of Cubase and SONAR that came with
>> my EMU1212 soundcard but I haven't tried yet. I used to play around with
>> Voyetra Pro for pianoscroll and stepwrite writing midi songs and had fun
>> with that, but gotta think there's a good usable mix of midi and real life
>> audio out there that's not too complicated. I'd love to be able to mix in
>> some cool sounding synths like a B3, and also have drum loop grooves integrate
>> easily.
>>
>> I haven't been able to listen to many of the midi tunes I wrote years ago
>> with any quality because I haven't had a decent general midi soundset to
>> play them back with - it seems like midi has moved past that concept of sound
>> to things and software I don't understand.
>>
>> Anyhow, I appreciate any suggestion folks might have for what other softwares
>> share the same mindspace of design as Paris, but also let me easily integrate
>> with midi sounds and drum loops.
>>
>> thanks in advance for feedback, ShaneIf you are looking for a powerful VSTi synth, check out the free one
EMU is giving away. This page:
http://www.emu.com/promo/proteusvx/welcome.asp gets you started. You
have to signup for their online newsletter, but so far, it has not
flooded me with annoying emails, and this synth comes with about 1000
patches that cover most anything. I especially like the acoustic and
electric pianos included.
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Marylandthanks for the pointers to Reaper from many places here also! I'll be checking
it out.
Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>I'll add a two thumbs up for Reaper here."Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>Thanks Deej, we've had power out for a few days here. Finally disconnected
>the generator, power returned today. So I see you're not using this with
>Paris. I assume you have automatic delay compensation in Cubase. So you
have
>no latency issues?
>
>Rich
>
None at all with Cubase ane the Duende PCIe card. Works just like a UAD-2.Deej, so you're saying that Cubase doesn't have the latency issues that
Paris does?
Rich
"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:4945d35e$1@linux...
>
> "Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>>Thanks Deej, we've had power out for a few days here. Finally disconnected
>
>>the generator, power returned today. So I see you're not using this with
>
>>Paris. I assume you have automatic delay compensation in Cubase. So you
> have
>>no latency issues?
>>
>>Rich
>>
> None at all with Cubase ane the Duende PCIe card. Works just like a UAD-2.
>"Very Deep Productions" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>Deej, so you're saying that Cubase doesn't have the latency issues that
>Paris does?
>
>Rich
>
It depends on what you consider to be a latency problem. Here's how latency
is dealt with in Cubase:
1. You need a pretty powerful rig to run Cubase at low latency (1.5ms/64k
buffers). This will get you the same latency as Paris, more or less
2. You can use native plugins as reverb sends while tracking..the less CPU
hungry and latency prone, the better. You can also use the UAD-2 in low latency
mode while tracking though this will significantly hit your cpu...thus my
admonition about having a fast computer. To my knowledge, Duende does not
have the same low latency capability that UAD-2 does so you probably won't
be able to use it. Using outboard gear is sorta mandatory if you're running
a big session and you need processing going on while tracking so Paris has
the edge when tracking because you can use the EDS FX.
Once everything is tracked, you can raise the buffer levels and start using
DSP cards like POCO, UAD-2/UAD-1 and Duende on output channels and Cubase
will automatically compensate for the delay. The only VST/VSTi situation
that I know of where it isn't flawless is with Drumagog..and especially with
Drumagog BFD. with those two, it is necessary to really get anal with sample
alignment because, at least on my rig, Cubase delay compensation does not
work properly.
If you are in the middle of a mix and you have a project loaded up with a
dozen or more DSP card based processors and you need o OD for some reason,
Cubase has a global disable button so you can track without the instantiated
plugins causing unacceptable latency or maxing out your CPU.
The Cubase control room function is a dream come true if you've got an adequately
powered computer to avoid having to use ASIO direct monitoring. A decent
dual core CPU will allow you to track at 3ms latency very reliably. Most
people don't even notice any latency at all with 3ms. If you're going for
a bit tighter situation, then I'd recommend a quad if you're going to be
doing large track counts or using VST FX on input channels.
As for the summing situation, it's easier with Paris. It's more flexible
with Cubase........unlimited options for manipulating audio very easily.
It just depends on what your needs are.
Here's a link to a 256k MP3 of a punkabilly band I'm mixing here to give
you an example of a mix with the Duende happening. I used it a bit on the
drums and bass to give 'em a little thump. It's got an interesting set of
processors and takes a while to learn.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/eith4mmzgye/BILLY.mp3If it's about the easiest interface and user GUI, and assuming you're a
windows guy SONAR is the choice I'd make. Be aware though that SONAR doesn't
have the best hardware implimentation, and latency continues to plague them.
If it's about speed/accuracy with hardware, I'd say cubase/nuendo from what
I've seen.
AA
"Shane M" <shanem@nospam.com> wrote in message news:49456039$1@linux...
>
> Tom, I think for mixing bigger stuff I will, and definitely for tracking
> with a band as I don't have enough inputs in other apps and Paris is so
> easy
> for that, but I'm looking to use tools for songwriting and composition
> too,
> and am finding on the fly looping like Ableton Live very cool for working
> out song layers (and just fun).
>
> The interest in midi functionality is because I used to write alot of
> stuff
> with stepwrite (i'm not a good key player) doing soundtrack and
> instrumental
> pieces. just looking for different flavors of stuff without necessarily
> learning entirely new and vastly different workflow.
>
> I'm mainly a rock guy, but I've even have a hip-hop tune in my head for
> several
> years that I want to give a go and I'm clueless as to how to approach all
> the sounds I'm hearing.
>
> thanks for the second on Cubase.
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>Shane,
>>
>>If time is so important why not stay with Paris if you know it?
>>
>>I like Cubase. It's mixer is similar in function to Paris. Routing
>>is more advanced. Midi is great. There is a learning curve though.
>>The mix bus is clean. It won't allow abuse like Paris.
>>
>>Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Shane M" <shanem@nospam.com> wrote in message news:49454cca$1@linux...
>>>
>>> thanks John, but I don't have 100 hours to learn - I'm trying to
>>> maximize
>>> creativity time. I'm mostly a hobbyist with a more than fulltime day
> job
>>> that takes most of my energy. Free time to devote to music is
>>> considerably
>>> limited. I've got a bit of free time around the holidays with a few
>>> days
>>> off to think about things and direction, but...
>>>
>>> thanks for comment on cubase. Do you find cubase concepts similar to
> the
>>> way Paris works?
>>>
>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I would recommend finding out what others who make the style of music
> you
>>>>like are using and then use that system. This way you are benefiting
> from
>>>>the sweat of others finding out what works.
>>>>
>>>>I'm in cubase and love if for what I'm doing which is very little midi
>
>>>>just
>>>>because i don't like midi. I do pretty much all audio tracks. Once you
>>>>find out what you are going to use plan on committing to reading the
>>>>manuals
>>>>and a steep learning curve but since you are committed, you can spend
> 100
>>>>hours learning the basics and take it with you for many years.
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>
>>
>>
>Yeah, that's a nice addition man. I have had this synth since I bought my
PCI 0202 a few years back, and it's pretty darn useful. Being able to pull
it up on my other computers will be very cool.
AA
"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:dahbk4tfnqc35oikaom9vidm7ce620vcjn@4ax.com...
> If you are looking for a powerful VSTi synth, check out the free one
> EMU is giving away. This page:
> http://www.emu.com/promo/proteusvx/welcome.asp gets you started. You
> have to signup for their online newsletter, but so far, it has not
> flooded me with annoying emails, and this synth comes with about 1000
> patches that cover most anything. I especially like the acoustic and
> electric pianos included.
>
> - Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>I agree with Bill about Logic. Logic on the Mac is at a pretty good
level now. I've found it to have some great PARIS-like aspects with the
way comping, limiting and FX work, for example. But it goes beyond PARIS
in that all your tracks work together in one interface (no 16 track/card
limits), and EVERYTHING is automatable.
The interface and work flow are more direct than before, now that Apple
has had some influence on it for the past few years. So the learning
curve is much less than before. It comes with a full suite of high
quality FX and instruments. Worth checking out.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Bill L wrote:
> I have not found any product to be especially easier or more similar to
> Paris than any other. My advice would be Cubase for PC or Mac or Logic
> for Mac. Both are very rich in features and powerful, plus they come
> with a bunch of synths and effects. I use Cubase 4 and love it.
>
> Shane M wrote:
>> Hi all. I haven't recorded in years, and am surprised at some recent
>> posts
>> about Paris updates - have to read more about that - but I was wondering
>> what users find as good transition software when moving from Paris?
>>
>> I'm currently messing around with Ableton Live Lite and finding it kindof
>> frustrating at first, and have worked some with Acid - actually like how
>> easily it works with loops. Ableton would seem to be better platform for
>> looping stuff - I'm a guitarist and like layering parts - but I'm not
>> exactly
>> getting the ease of use part of things yet. I actually moved the loops I
>> recorded in Ableton to Acid just to work on the composition which seemed
>> kindof messy in Ableton.
>>
>> But for mixing I can't see doing any serious mixing or recording more
>> than
>> simple takes on these other systems.
>>
>> I am interested in composing some stuff with midi and virtual instruments
>> and Tracktion might be worth considering for that given Garriton personal
>> orchestra. I also have some LE versions of Cubase and SONAR that came
>> with
>> my EMU1212 soundcard but I haven't tried yet. I used to play around with
>> Voyetra Pro for pianoscroll and stepwrite writing midi songs and had fun
>> with that, but gotta think there's a good usable mix of midi and real
>> life
>> audio out there that's not too complicated. I'd love to be able to
>> mix in
>> some cool sounding synths like a B3, and also have drum loop grooves
>> integrate
>> easily.
>>
>> I haven't been able to listen to many of the midi tunes I wrote years ago
>> with any quality because I haven't had a decent general midi soundset to
>> play them back with - it seems like midi has moved past that concept
>> of sound
>> to things and software I don't understand.
>>
>> Anyhow, I appreciate any suggestion folks might have for what other
>> softwares
>> share the same mindspace of design as Paris, but also let me easily
>> integrate
>> with midi sounds and drum loops.
>>
>> thanks in advance for feedback, ShaneFrom what I remember, I think John wanted to get his head around *all* the
features first, including the more complex stuff.
My normal mode would be to just dive in, but after a few years of doing this
I think I actually prefer Johns approach. Knowing all the tools available
just makes the job easier in the long run.
Chuck
Martin Harrington <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>I've got Reaper on my laptop (MBP), and it is a very intuitive and well
>designed program.
>Easy to get your head around, with no steep learning curve.
>
>BTW, I'm not sure what John is talking about when he says that Cubase has
a
>steep learning curve...it too is very intuitive.
>Getting into the intricacies may take some using, but you can make music
>pretty much straight away...IMHO.
>
>Having said that, I haven't used it for a couple of years, I now use Pro
>Tools and Logic, ( which I really like, and is extremely powerful)
>
>Martin H
>
>
>On 15/12/08 10:57 AM, in article 49458f40$1@linux, "jim drago"
><jimdrago@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I was just goig to suggest REAPER. Haven't had a chance to work with it
yet,
>> but it sure looks promising.
>> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>> If you haven't seen REAPER, you can download it here and try it to see
>> if
>>> it suits your needs. If you like it, the license (honor system) is $50
for
>>> your needs (it's higher for commercial use). There aren't a lot of built-in
>>> instruments but if you check their forums there are links to a wide range
>> of
>>> good quality freeware instruments and other plugins.
>>>
>>> REAPER rocks. It's worth giving it a try - if you like it, the price
is
>>> right, the features brilliant and it's certainly all the power and
>>> flexibility you'd ever need.
>>>
>>> http://www.reaper.fm/
>>>
>>> - K
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/14/08 3:13 AM, in article 4944dc56$1@linux, "Shane M"
>>> <shanem@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all. I haven't recorded in years, and am surprised at some recent
>> posts
>>>> about Paris updates - have to read more about that - but I was wondering
>>>> what users find as good transition software when moving from Paris?
>>>>
>>>> I'm currently messing around with Ableton Live Lite and finding it kindof
>>>> frustrating at first, and have worked some with Acid - actually like
how
>>>> easily it works with loops. Ableton would seem to be better platform
>> for
>>>> looping stuff - I'm a guitarist and like layering parts - but I'm not
>> exactly
>>>> getting the ease of use part of things yet. I actually moved the loops
>> I
>>>> recorded in Ableton to Acid just to work on the composition which seemed
>>>> kindof messy in Ableton.
>>>>
>>>> But for mixing I can't see doing any serious mixing or recording more
>> than
>>>> simple takes on these other systems.
>>>>
>>>> I am interested in composing some stuff with midi and virtual instruments
>>>> and Tracktion might be worth considering for that given Garriton personal
>>>> orchestra. I also have some LE versions of Cubase and SONAR that came
>> with
>>>> my EMU1212 soundcard but I haven't tried yet. I used to play around
with
>>>> Voyetra Pro for pianoscroll and stepwrite writing midi songs and had
fun
>>>> with that, but gotta think there's a good usable mix of midi and real
>> life
>>>> audio out there that's not too complicated. I'd love to be able to
mix
>> in
>>>> some cool sounding synths like a B3, and also have drum loop grooves
>>>> integrate
>>>> easily.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't been able to listen to many of the midi tunes I wrote years
>> ago
>>>> with any quality because I haven't had a decent general midi soundset
>> to
>>>> play them back with - it seems like midi has moved past that concept
of
>> sound
>>>> to things and software I don't understand.
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow, I appreciate any suggestion folks might have for what other
>>>> softwares
>>>> share the same mindspace of design as Paris, but also let me easily
>>>> integrate
>>>> with midi sounds and drum loops.
>>>>
>>>> thanks in advance for feedback, Shane
>>>
>>
>
>Martin H
>Lend An Ear Sound
>Martin, when I refer to the steep learning curve I'm referring to learning
things like the button to reveal the automation is hidden and only if you
hover over the "known" spot will you see it appear.
Things like learning the difference betweeen track presets, exported track
archives (which save i/o, sends, inserts that track presets don't do) and
media bay presets.
Things like learning how file preferences have presets so you can have different
prefs for tracking, mixing and mastering.
Things like learning that you have to have vst connection channels disabled
in Output but they have to be in the list if you want to use Control Room
Things like the right click to populate sends requires that you first select
the channels you want to apply them to before you apply your fader settings
to your sends.
Things like learning to reset your audio device when audio disappears (not
often thankfully).
Things like learning how cool stacked mode is.
Don't get me wrong, I love cubase and you can get going in not too short
a time, but I think all daws have a steep learning curve, or I'm just dumb.
:-)
JohnIt is cool to at least know all the things it can do, even if I don't know
how to do them. Then at least I can decide what I want to spend time on.
One of my favorite sayings is "Perfect is the enemy of the Good". But
hey, I just spent about 70 hours dialing in my perfect drum set so I'm not
a great example. I really only use about 25% of cubases features if that.
No scoring, very little midi but the features I do use I love.
Folder tracks make life great. Put drums, guitar, keys, vocals in their
own folder tracks and put all those in one folder track, now you can enable/disable
all or groups with a click for recording or monitoring.
JohnWhy not respond with your typical prickish "yeah me, fuck thee" reponse like
you have done so well before?
http://news.parisnewsgroup.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=article& amp;group=IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS&item=211030&utag=
~ Cantankerous Fuck You Ed
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>From what I remember, I think John wanted to get his head around *all* the
>features first, including the more complex stuff.
>
>My normal mode would be to just dive in, but after a few years of doing
this
>I think I actually prefer Johns approach. Knowing all the tools available
>just makes the job easier in the long run.
>
>Chuck
>
>Martin Harrington <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>I've got Reaper on my laptop (MBP), and it is a very intuitive and well
>>designed program.
>>Easy to get your head around, with no steep learning curve.
>>
>>BTW, I'm not sure what John is talking about when he says that Cubase has
>a
>>steep learning curve...it too is very intuitive.
>>Getting into the intricacies may take some using, but you can make music
>>pretty much straight away...IMHO.
>>
>>Having said that, I haven't used it for a couple of years, I now use Pro
>>Tools and Logic, ( which I really like, and is extremely powerful)
>>
>>Martin H
>>
>>
>>On 15/12/08 10:57 AM, in article 49458f40$1@linux, "jim drago"
>><jimdrago@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I was just goig to suggest REAPER. Haven't had a chance to work with
it
>yet,
>>> but it sure looks promising.
>>> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>>> If you haven't seen REAPER, you can download it here and try it to
see
>>> if
>>>> it suits your needs. If you like it, the license (honor system) is $50
>for
>>>> your needs (it's higher for commercial use). There aren't a lot of built-in
>>>> instruments but if you check their forums there are links to a wide
range
>>> of
>>>> good quality freeware instruments and other plugins.
>>>>
>>>> REAPER rocks. It's worth giving it a try - if you like it, the price
>is
>>>> right, the features brilliant and it's certainly all the power and
>>>> flexibility you'd ever need.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.reaper.fm/
>>>>
>>>> - K
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/14/08 3:13 AM, in article 4944dc56$1@linux, "Shane M"
>>>> <shanem@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all. I haven't recorded in years, and am surprised at some recent
>>> posts
>>>>> about Paris updates - have to read more about that - but I was wondering
>>>>> what users find as good transition software when moving from Paris?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm currently messing around with Ableton Live Lite and finding it
kindof
>>>>> frustrating at first, and have worked some with Acid - actually like
>how
>>>>> easily it works with loops. Ableton would seem to be better platform
>>> for
>>>>> looping stuff - I'm a guitarist and like layering parts - but I'm not
>>> exactly
>>>>> getting the ease of use part of things yet. I actually moved the loops
>>> I
>>>>> recorded in Ableton to Acid just to work on the composition which seemed
>>>>> kindof messy in Ableton.
>>>>>
>>>>> But for mixing I can't see doing any serious mixing or recording more
>>> than
>>>>> simple takes on these other systems.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am interested in composing some stuff with midi and virtual instruments
>>>>> and Tracktion might be worth considering for that given Garriton personal
>>>>> orchestra. I also have some LE versions of Cubase and SONAR that came
>>> with
>>>>> my EMU1212 soundcard but I haven't tried yet. I used to play around
>with
>>>>> Voyetra Pro for pianoscroll and stepwrite writing midi songs and had
>fun
>>>>> with that, but gotta think there's a good usable mix of midi and real
>>> life
>>>>> audio out there that's not too complicated. I'd love to be able to
>mix
>>> in
>>>>> some cool sounding synths like a B3, and also have drum loop grooves
>>>>> integrate
>>>>> easily.
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't been able to listen to many of the midi tunes I wrote years
>>> ago
>>>>> with any quality because I haven't had a decent general midi soundset
>>> to
>>>>> play them back with - it seems like midi has moved past that concept
>of
>>> sound
>>>>> to things and software I don't understand.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyhow, I appreciate any suggestion folks might have for what other
>>>>> softwares
>>>>> share the same mindspace of design as Paris, but also let me easily
>>>>> integrate
>>>>> with midi sounds and drum loops.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks in advance for feedback, Shane
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>Martin H
>>Lend An Ear Sound
>>
>cuz that's my job
JohnHey, f*** that, it's my turn this month!
:D
- K
On 12/15/08 9:25 AM, in article 494684eb$1@linux, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
> cuz that's my job
>
> JohnHi guys,
I'm hoping that someone out there can help me trouble-shoot a problem that
I'm having with my Control 16, namely that it stopped working after I upgraded
and moved my Paris set-up. I've tested two different C-16 units and both
of them just sit with static random light patterns while Paris is running
and are otherwise unresponsive. This is leading me to think that maybe I
have a problem with my EDS card or possibly a software glitch? Has anyone
else ever had this type of problem? What do you think my best options are?
Or what other things can I do to try to troubleshoot?
In another issue, I've just recently set up my Paris system fully connected
to my 24-channel mixer. I'm interested in using my 8-out cards to route
16 channels out to the board to mix out of the Paris box (so to speak), but
I'm having trouble figuring out how to route this properly in the Paris patch-bay.
Maybe there's something that I'm missing as a beginner to this sort of thing.
If anyone has any feedback on either of these issues, your help is much
appreciated.
Thanks!
DavidYou ARE using a standard CAT5 cable and NOT a crossover cable for the
C16's... right?
Double click on the MEC modules block in the patchbay window. The next
window contains the I/O module assignment (P34 in the owners manual).
Drag the appropriate modules into the locations required, and then patch
away.
David.
David Feldman wrote:
> Hi guys,
> I'm hoping that someone out there can help me trouble-shoot a problem that
> I'm having with my Control 16, namely that it stopped working after I upgraded
> and moved my Paris set-up. I've tested two different C-16 units and both
> of them just sit with static random light patterns while Paris is running
> and are otherwise unresponsive. This is leading me to think that maybe I
> have a problem with my EDS card or possibly a software glitch? Has anyone
> else ever had this type of problem? What do you think my best options are?
> Or what other things can I do to try to troubleshoot?
>
> In another issue, I've just recently set up my Paris system fully connected
> to my 24-channel mixer. I'm interested in using my 8-out cards to route
> 16 channels out to the board to mix out of the Paris box (so to speak), but
> I'm having trouble figuring out how to route this properly in the Paris patch-bay.
> Maybe there's something that I'm missing as a beginner to this sort of thing.
> If anyone has any feedback on either of these issues, your help is much
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
> DavidHi David,
If your upgrade was to a dual or quad core CPU, you'll need to either lock
the PARIS app and driver to a single CPU or buy my new driver that was re-written
for multiple CPU computers.
It's available at ensoniq.ca
All the best,
Mike
"David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hi guys,
>I'm hoping that someone out there can help me trouble-shoot a problem that
>I'm having with my Control 16, namely that it stopped working after I upgraded
>and moved my Paris set-up. I've tested two different C-16 units and both
>of them just sit with static random light patterns while Paris is running
>and are otherwise unresponsive. This is leading me to think that maybe
I
>have a problem with my EDS card or possibly a software glitch? Has anyone
>else ever had this type of problem? What do you think my best options are?
> Or what other things can I do to try to troubleshoot?
>
>In another issue, I've just recently set up my Paris system fully connected
>to my 24-channel mixer. I'm interested in using my 8-out cards to route
>16 channels out to the board to mix out of the Paris box (so to speak),
but
>I'm having trouble figuring out how to route this properly in the Paris
patch-bay.
> Maybe there's something that I'm missing as a beginner to this sort of
thing.
> If anyone has any feedback on either of these issues, your help is much
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks!
>DavidHey Paul, what do you think of the sound and functionality of the Tascam DM-4800?
James
Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>I'll add a two thumbs up for Reaper here. My Paris DAW sits idle in
>the corner, while my primary recording setup is a homebuilt
>Reaper/UAD-1 computer with a Tascam DM4800 into a MOTU 2408mk3 front
>end. Mostly, I use the Tascam as a control surface for Reaper, since I
>don't track too much these days. A lot of my tunes recently are
>assembled in Acid, then exported as individual tracks for mixdown in
>the Reaper DAW using the Tascam to write automation.
>
>Paris will still have a place here, I think, since I have it in a
>semi-portable rack, so I could use it to track in other rooms, then
>mix in Paris or move tracks into Reaper.
>
>A couple of cool things to point out about Reaper. It supports skins
>and the user community has come up with dozens of them. This is really
>useful for making it user-friendly to me, since no other DAW software
>caressed my eyes like Paris. Wish someone with talent would come up
>with a Paris skin.
>
>Second, while Reaper doesn't come with too many instrument plugins, it
>does have a sick collection of effect plugs, and I have found ReaFIR
>to be a powerful, surgical eq tool.
>
>Finally, there is a growing, fanatical user base, who have produced
>lots of documentation, howtos and even videos. New versions come out
>about once per month, and the developer is actively involved with the
>online forum.
>
>If you want more testimonials, talk to Chris Ludwig.
>
>- Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
>On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:43:15 -0800, Kerry Galloway
><kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>
>>If you haven't seen REAPER, you can download it here and try it to see
if
>>it suits your needs. If you like it, the license (honor system) is $50
for
>>your needs (it's higher for commercial use). There aren't a lot of built-in
>>instruments but if you check their forums there are links to a wide range
of
>>good quality freeware instruments and other plugins.
>>
>>REAPER rocks. It's worth giving it a try - if you like it, the price is
>>right, the features brilliant and it's certainly all the power and
>>flexibility you'd ever need.
>>
>>http://www.reaper.fm/
>>
>>- K
>>
>>
>>On 12/14/08 3:13 AM, in article 4944dc56$1@linux, "Shane M"
>><shanem@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all. I haven't recorded in years, and am surprised at some recent
posts
>>> about Paris updates - have to read more about that - but I was wondering
>>> what users find as good transition software when moving from Paris?
>>>
>>> I'm currently messing around with Ableton Live Lite and finding it kindof
>>> frustrating at first, and have worked some with Acid - actually like
how
>>> easily it works with loops. Ableton would seem to be better platform
for
>>> looping stuff - I'm a guitarist and like layering parts - but I'm not
exactly
>>> getting the ease of use part of things yet. I actually moved the loops
I
>>> recorded in Ableton to Acid just to work on the composition which seemed
>>> kindof messy in Ableton.
>>>
>>> But for mixing I can't see doing any serious mixing or recording more
than
>>> simple takes on these other systems.
>>>
>>> I am interested in composing some stuff with midi and virtual instruments
>>> and Tracktion might be worth considering for that given Garriton personal
>>> orchestra. I also have some LE versions of Cubase and SONAR that came
with
>>> my EMU1212 soundcard but I haven't tried yet. I used to play around
with
>>> Voyetra Pro for pianoscroll and stepwrite writing midi songs and had
fun
>>> with that, but gotta think there's a good usable mix of midi and real
life
>>> audio out there that's not too complicated. I'd love to be able to mix
in
>>> some cool sounding synths like a B3, and also have drum loop grooves
integrate
>>> easily.
>>>
>>> I haven't been able to listen to many of the midi tunes I wrote years
ago
>>> with any quality because I haven't had a decent general midi soundset
to
>>> play them back with - it seems like midi has moved past that concept
of sound
>>> to things and software I don't understand.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, I appreciate any suggestion folks might have for what other softwares
>>> share the same mindspace of design as Paris, but also let me easily integrate
>>> with midi sounds and drum loops.
>>>
>>> thanks in advance for feedback, Shane
>Yep! I would be interested in hearing guitar processors, mics, mic pres,
mixers, compressors, EQs and plugins. I would also want to know all the
settings. Bill, can you whip this up for me in the next day or two? ; )
James
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>I got a wild hair and thought I would do a quick reality-check marketing
>survey.
>
>1. Would you be interested to visit a website where you could hear
>comparison audio samples of competing musical equipment products, for
>example: Guitar Modelers, Guitar Amps, Synthesizers, Instruments, Audio
>Effects Plugins, Synth Plugins?
>
>2. If so, what types of products would you be most interested to hear
>compared?
>
>Thanks!Cool
https://www.mixbooks.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ID=64322You know the old saying, "From tiny acorns, mighty oaks grow."
My first idea was to compare guitar processors.
James McCloskey wrote:
> Yep! I would be interested in hearing guitar processors, mics, mic pres,
> mixers, compressors, EQs and plugins. I would also want to know all the
> settings. Bill, can you whip this up for me in the next day or two? ; )
>
> James
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>> I got a wild hair and thought I would do a quick reality-check marketing
>
>> survey.
>>
>> 1. Would you be interested to visit a website where you could hear
>> comparison audio samples of competing musical equipment products, for
>> example: Guitar Modelers, Guitar Amps, Synthesizers, Instruments, Audio
>
>> Effects Plugins, Synth Plugins?
>>
>> 2. If so, what types of products would you be most interested to hear
>> compared?
>>
>> Thanks!
>Because you make me want to be a better man?
"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>
>Why not respond with your typical prickish "yeah me, fuck thee" reponse
like
>you have done so well before?
>
> http://news.parisnewsgroup.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=article& amp;group=IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS&item=211030&utag=
>
>~ Cantankerous Fuck You Ed
>
>
>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>
>>From what I remember, I think John wanted to get his head around *all*
the
>>features first, including the more complex stuff.
>>
>>My normal mode would be to just dive in, but after a few years of doing
>this
>>I think I actually prefer Johns approach. Knowing all the tools available
>>just makes the job easier in the long run.
>>
>>Chuck
>>
>>Martin Harrington <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>I've got Reaper on my laptop (MBP), and it is a very intuitive and well
>>>designed program.
>>>Easy to get your head around, with no steep learning curve.
>>>
>>>BTW, I'm not sure what John is talking about when he says that Cubase
has
>>a
>>>steep learning curve...it too is very intuitive.
>>>Getting into the intricacies may take some using, but you can make music
>>>pretty much straight away...IMHO.
>>>
>>>Having said that, I haven't used it for a couple of years, I now use Pro
>>>Tools and Logic, ( which I really like, and is extremely powerful)
>>>
>>>Martin H
>>>
>>>
>>>On 15/12/08 10:57 AM, in article 49458f40$1@linux, "jim drago"
>>><jimdrago@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was just goig to suggest REAPER. Haven't had a chance to work with
>it
>>yet,
>>>> but it sure looks promising.
>>>> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>>>> If you haven't seen REAPER, you can download it here and try it to
>see
>>>> if
>>>>> it suits your needs. If you like it, the license (honor system) is
$50
>>for
>>>>> your needs (it's higher for commercial use). There aren't a lot of
built-in
>>>>> instruments but if you check their forums there are links to a wide
>range
>>>> of
>>>>> good quality freeware instruments and other plugins.
>>>>>
>>>>> REAPER rocks. It's worth giving it a try - if you like it, the price
>>is
>>>>> right, the features brilliant and it's certainly all the power and
>>>>> flexibility you'd ever need.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.reaper.fm/
>>>>>
>>>>> - K
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/14/08 3:13 AM, in article 4944dc56$1@linux, "Shane M"
>>>>> <shanem@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all. I haven't recorded in years, and am surprised at some recent
>>>> posts
>>>>>> about Paris updates - have to read more about that - but I was wondering
>>>>>> what users find as good transition software when moving from Paris?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm currently messing around with Ableton Live Lite and finding it
>kindof
>>>>>> frustrating at first, and have worked some with Acid - actually like
>>how
>>>>>> easily it works with loops. Ableton would seem to be better platform
>>>> for
>>>>>> looping stuff - I'm a guitarist and like layering parts - but I'm
not
>>>> exactly
>>>>>> getting the ease of use part of things yet. I actually moved the
loops
>>>> I
>>>>>> recorded in Ableton to Acid just to work on the composition which
seemed
>>>>>> kindof messy in Ableton.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But for mixing I can't see doing any serious mixing or recording more
>>>> than
>>>>>> simple takes on these other systems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am interested in composing some stuff with midi and virtual instruments
>>>>>> and Tracktion might be worth considering for that given Garriton personal
>>>>>> orchestra. I also have some LE versions of Cubase and SONAR that
came
>>>> with
>>>>>> my EMU1212 soundcard but I haven't tried yet. I used to play around
>>with
>>>>>> Voyetra Pro for pianoscroll and stepwrite writing midi songs and had
>>fun
>>>>>> with that, but gotta think there's a good usable mix of midi and real
>>>> life
>>>>>> audio out there that's not too complicated. I'd love to be able to
>>mix
>>>> in
>>>>>> some cool sounding synths like a B3, and also have drum loop grooves
>>>>>> integrate
>>>>>> easily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't been able to listen to many of the midi tunes I wrote years
>>>> ago
>>>>>> with any quality because I haven't had a decent general midi soundset
>>>> to
>>>>>> play them back with - it seems like midi has moved past that concept
>>of
>>>> sound
>>>>>> to things and software I don't understand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyhow, I appreciate any suggestion folks might have for what other
>>>>>> softwares
>>>>>> share the same mindspace of design as Paris, but also let me easily
>>>>>> integrate
>>>>>> with midi sounds and drum loops.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks in advance for feedback, Shane
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Martin H
>>>Lend An Ear Sound
>>>
>>
>I have that same pot on mine Bill... "RPC" as I recall (sooooo long ago
now) and it does throw a rise on output that really drives any amp nicely,
clean or dirty. Here's a tip on those SA's.... run them on 9V and they
remain kinda compressed sounding. Put them on 18V and they thrash nicely.
I simply cut my strat for 2 9V batts and added a series/parallel switch for
9V/18V. I also elected to have an on off for every pickup output as opposed
to a 5-way switch. It gives me three extra positions: all on / all off /
1 & 3 only. The 1 and 3 only position with the RPC up full makes for some
great pedal steel tones if you can vol-pedal and whammy emulate pedal steel
vibrato.
Mark
"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:4943f487$1@linux...
> Mark, I've got SAs in my custom mid-80's "strat" too (my guitar tech calls
> it my "pointy guitar" 'cause of that 80's headstock), and I still love
> 'em. On the strat I installed a mid boost circuit replacing the 3rd pot (I
> found a tone control on the bridge pickup oxymoronic anyway). This circuit
> gives a little more balls for crunch and sometimes a little extra body for
> playing jazz or fusion (which I try to avoid with this guitar). Anyway, I
> do agree EMGs are sweet.
>
> One thing I was not aware of until reading the diagram for this install
> (which was a bitch in a semi-hollow, BTW) is that they recommend adjusting
> their PUPs as close to the string as possible for maximum tone. They state
> that the mag field is so weak there is no danger of string pull.
>
> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>> Bill,
>>
>> EYE----LLLLLLOOOOOVVVVVVEEEEEE EMG's. There are only a few passives
>> that I wish for and I do have them (the Bill Lawrence L500 being 3 of
>> them). I've got a set of original SA's in a strat I built 22 years ago.
>> Rod Lincoln will probably remember seeing this guitar as I had just
>> finished it when he and I did a little touring together. I haven't
>> touched the guitar since the day I put it together. These SA's have seen
>> action every day with rare exception for 22 years and they still blow me
>> and everybody else away.
>>
>> W. Mark Wilson
>>
>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>> news:493fe8f0$1@linux...
>>> A few months ago I posted asking my friends to talk me out of adding a
>>> single coil pickup to my Ibanez Artist semi-hollow electric (335-style).
>>> I withdrew from that path of no return and installed EMG 89s. They are a
>>> humbucker case with both a complete humbucker and a complete single coil
>>> inside, side by side.
>>>
>>> While I lost the predomoinance of gritty high mids that worked for some
>>> sounds, but were a problem with others (and which I can get back easily
>>> with tone controls), I have gained a lot of new sounds which are hugely
>>> advantageous and make the guitar a true Gigmaster. I can use it for
>>> jazz, rock and spanking R&B and everything in between.
>>>
>>> It does not sound like a Strat, mind you; it doesn't have the je ne sais
>>> quoi - dare I call it "deadness" - of a real Strat but it does give
>>> sweet single coil sounds that fit really well in music on which I would
>>> normally use my strat. An interesting unexpected benefit is how I love
>>> the single coil neck position for straight ahead jazz tone.
>>>
>>> Check 'em out!
>>I am very happy with the DM4800, though I really don't use it as an
audio mixer as much as I use it as a control surface. It offers a good
deal of flexibility and has lots of i/o possibilities, especially
since I added on 2 adat cards.
I think the sound is fine, no issues to my ears. Like any complex
device, I think I would be more capable with it if I used all its
functionality more, so I am always running to the manual to remember
how to wire things up. It would be nice to have a simpler way to
create routings, and a touchscreen would be ideal, but for the money,
I am happy with the unit.
Just ordered a new Argosy desk to house the mixer and my rack gear, so
I will be spending a fair bit of time re-wiring my studio next month.
- Paul
On 16 Dec 2008 10:17:38 +1000, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Paul, what do you think of the sound and functionality of the Tascam DM-4800?
>
>James
>
>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>I'll add a two thumbs up for Reaper here. My Paris DAW sits idle in
>>the corner, while my primary recording setup is a homebuilt
>>Reaper/UAD-1 computer with a Tascam DM4800 into a MOTU 2408mk3 front
>>end. Mostly, I use the Tascam as a control surface for Reaper, since I
>>don't track too much these days. A lot of my tunes recently are
>>assembled in Acid, then exported as individual tracks for mixdown in
>>the Reaper DAW using the Tascam to write automation.
>>
>>Paris will still have a place here, I think, since I have it in a
>>semi-portable rack, so I could use it to track in other rooms, then
>>mix in Paris or move tracks into Reaper.
>>
>>A couple of cool things to point out about Reaper. It supports skins
>>and the user community has come up with dozens of them. This is really
>>useful for making it user-friendly to me, since no other DAW software
>>caressed my eyes like Paris. Wish someone with talent would come up
>>with a Paris skin.
>>
>>Second, while Reaper doesn't come with too many instrument plugins, it
>>does have a sick collection of effect plugs, and I have found ReaFIR
>>to be a powerful, surgical eq tool.
>>
>>Finally, there is a growing, fanatical user base, who have produced
>>lots of documentation, howtos and even videos. New versions come out
>>about once per month, and the developer is actively involved with the
>>online forum.
>>
>>If you want more testimonials, talk to Chris Ludwig.
>>
>>- Paul Artola
>> Ellicott City, Maryland
>>
>>On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:43:15 -0800, Kerry Galloway
>><kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>
>>>If you haven't seen REAPER, you can download it here and try it to see
>if
>>>it suits your needs. If you like it, the license (honor system) is $50
>for
>>>your needs (it's higher for commercial use). There aren't a lot of built-in
>>>instruments but if you check their forums there are links to a wide range
>of
>>>good quality freeware instruments and other plugins.
>>>
>>>REAPER rocks. It's worth giving it a try - if you like it, the price is
>>>right, the features brilliant and it's certainly all the power and
>>>flexibility you'd ever need.
>>>
>>>http://www.reaper.fm/
>>>
>>>- K
>>>
>>>
>>>On 12/14/08 3:13 AM, in article 4944dc56$1@linux, "Shane M"
>>><shanem@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all. I haven't recorded in years, and am surprised at some recent
>posts
>>>> about Paris updates - have to read more about that - but I was wondering
>>>> what users find as good transition software when moving from Paris?
>>>>
>>>> I'm currently messing around with Ableton Live Lite and finding it kindof
>>>> frustrating at first, and have worked some with Acid - actually like
>how
>>>> easily it works with loops. Ableton would seem to be better platform
>for
>>>> looping stuff - I'm a guitarist and like layering parts - but I'm not
>exactly
>>>> getting the ease of use part of things yet. I actually moved the loops
>I
>>>> recorded in Ableton to Acid just to work on the composition which seemed
>>>> kindof messy in Ableton.
>>>>
>>>> But for mixing I can't see doing any serious mixing or recording more
>than
>>>> simple takes on these other systems.
>>>>
>>>> I am interested in composing some stuff with midi and virtual instruments
>>>> and Tracktion might be worth considering for that given Garriton personal
>>>> orchestra. I also have some LE versions of Cubase and SONAR that came
>with
>>>> my EMU1212 soundcard but I haven't tried yet. I used to play around
>with
>>>> Voyetra Pro for pianoscroll and stepwrite writing midi songs and had
>fun
>>>> with that, but gotta think there's a good usable mix of midi and real
>life
>>>> audio out there that's not too complicated. I'd love to be able to mix
>in
>>>> some cool sounding synths like a B3, and also have drum loop grooves
>integrate
>>>> easily.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't been able to listen to many of the midi tunes I wrote years
>ago
>>>> with any quality because I haven't had a decent general midi soundset
>to
>>>> play them back with - it seems like midi has moved past that concept
>of sound
>>>> to things and software I don't understand.
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow, I appreciate any suggestion folks might have for what other softwares
>>>> share the same mindspace of design as Paris, but also let me easily integrate
>>>> with midi sounds and drum loops.
>>>>
>>>> thanks in advance for feedback, Shane
>>If you are this will potentially help your paris experience.
Use this Macro and enjoy.
It will work with any CPU. I labeled it quad core so I
know what computer it was designed for.
Here is some info if it helps anyone:
This is the Macro that works. Save from this
email attachment to a CDR or USB stick and dump
into your Paris computer. It can reside anywhere.
I like to put it in Programs/MacroExpress/Macros.
You may have to make the folder Macros.
Once it's in there just go to Macro Express. It should
be running at startup. Go to File then Open Macro File.
I want you to direct it to Programs/MacroExpress/Macros/
12_16_08 Paris Quad Core.mex .
This should make it work perfectly except for a few gotchyas.
1) Make sure your Paris Project folder is in the uppermost
left hand corner. It may need to move the smallest amount
for all F keys to do their job. Once it's in the correct
location this is what the keys will do:
F1 Submix 1 Editor Mixer
F2 Submix 2 Editor Mixer
F3 Submix 3 Editor Mixer
F4 Submix 4 Editor Mixer
F5 Submix 1 Automation Mixer
F6 Submix 2 Automation Mixer
F7 Submix 3 Automation Mixer
F8 Submix 4 Automation Mixer
F9 Submix 5 Editor Mixer
F10 Submix 5 Automation Mixer
F11 All Utility Windows Open
F12 All Utility Windows Close
Shift/F12 All Channel Inserts Bypass or Engage
Your mixers, automation mixers and editors can be
wherever you want. That will only matter when
dealing with this:
2) Holding Shift while clicking F12 is tricky.
It depends on your mixers inserts to be at the
top of the far right screen. For me it's monitor
#2. For you it may be different. You must have all
16 channels showing (turn off Show Master in Mixer,
hide all your aux busses by dragging right vertical line between
channels and auxes to cover auxes and pull left most vertical
line left to open up all 16 channels so only channel strips show
and fill your far right monitor left to right. This is
a standard setting for some and can be accomplished (memorized)
using Paris Views if not by hand.
If this is done correctly all channels will be bypassed/engaged within
a couple of seconds. It will only be important to you if you are using
Faderworks and you want to continue laying overdubs without latency.
All effects with substantial latency will make recording overdubs
difficult.
A quick Shift/F12 will make it work in 2 seconds. Once the track is
recorded
another Shift/F12 will make you mix sound like it did before with all
effects engaged again. Slick.
3) I'm confident (like that?) your Utilities will also be difficult if not
impossible
to use. They may open with F11 but will never close with F12. This is
a macro
that depends on the exact location of the Patchbay (full size filling
left most monitor)
Big Transport, Audio and Markers windows on the far right monitor for
the mouse to know
where to go to close them. I'd suggest just continue using key commands
as you do now.
That's what I do too more often than not.
Tom
Sorry I should have labeled it with attachment.
It is 672 kb. I use Macro Express 3.4.
This macro stems from Brian Tankersley's original.
Tom
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49475ce7@linux...
> If you are this will potentially help your paris experience.
> Use this Macro and enjoy.
>
> It will work with any CPU. I labeled it quad core so I
> know what computer it was designed for.
>
> Here is some info if it helps anyone:
>
> This is the Macro that works. Save from this
> email attachment to a CDR or USB stick and dump
> into your Paris computer. It can reside anywhere.
> I like to put it in Programs/MacroExpress/Macros.
> You may have to make the folder Macros.
>
> Once it's in there just go to Macro Express. It should
> be running at startup. Go to File then Open Macro File.
> I want you to direct it to Programs/MacroExpress/Macros/
> 12_16_08 Paris Quad Core.mex .
>
> This should make it work perfectly except for a few gotchyas.
>
> 1) Make sure your Paris Project folder is in the uppermost
> left hand corner. It may need to move the smallest amount
> for all F keys to do their job. Once it's in the correct
> location this is what the keys will do:
>
> F1 Submix 1 Editor Mixer
> F2 Submix 2 Editor Mixer
> F3 Submix 3 Editor Mixer
> F4 Submix 4 Editor Mixer
> F5 Submix 1 Automation Mixer
> F6 Submix 2 Automation Mixer
> F7 Submix 3 Automation Mixer
> F8 Submix 4 Automation Mixer
> F9 Submix 5 Editor Mixer
> F10 Submix 5 Automation Mixer
> F11 All Utility Windows Open
> F12 All Utility Windows Close
> Shift/F12 All Channel Inserts Bypass or Engage
>
> Your mixers, automation mixers and editors can be
> wherever you want. That will only matter when
> dealing with this:
>
> 2) Holding Shift while clicking F12 is tricky.
> It depends on your mixers inserts to be at the
> top of the far right screen. For me it's monitor
> #2. For you it may be different. You must have all
> 16 channels showing (turn off Show Master in Mixer,
> hide all your aux busses by dragging right vertical line between
> channels and auxes to cover auxes and pull left most vertical
> line left to open up all 16 channels so only channel strips show
> and fill your far right monitor left to right. This is
> a standard setting for some and can be accomplished (memorized)
> using Paris Views if not by hand.
>
> If this is done correctly all channels will be bypassed/engaged within
> a couple of seconds. It will only be important to you if you are using
> Faderworks and you want to continue laying overdubs without latency.
> All effects with substantial latency will make recording overdubs
> difficult.
> A quick Shift/F12 will make it work in 2 seconds. Once the track is
> recorded
> another Shift/F12 will make you mix sound like it did before with all
> effects engaged again. Slick.
>
> 3) I'm confident (like that?) your Utilities will also be difficult if not
> impossible
> to use. They may open with F11 but will never close with F12. This is
> a macro
> that depends on the exact location of the Patchbay (full size filling
> left most monitor)
> Big Transport, Audio and Markers windows on the far right monitor for
> the mouse to know
> where to go to close them. I'd suggest just continue using key
> commands as you do now.
> That's what I do too more often than not.
>
> Tom
>
>I think we got rick rolled.Okay, Chris L and Mikes technique got the quad core
working with Paris and C-16s. This is not using Mike's new drivers yet.
Went all night in loop mode with the C-16s showing up after 12 hours.
You may have noticed the Macro Express thread. I can't tell you
how much time that program saves me while working with Paris.
If you're not using it you should be. I developed the macros to
work on my rig. Not sure everyone else's will work perfectly.
Today I plan to get external word clock, three mecs and a 442 working.
Once that's stable I will install the Creamware Pro card then Cubase 4.
Backing up before each new step of course!
Tom
"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C564AE41.C04C%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> WoooHOO! Watching this with great interest.
>
> - K
>
> On 12/9/08 11:18 PM, in article 493f713c@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Ran a little audio for the first time. CPU was at
>> 0-3% throughout.
>>
>> I'll start loading in some plugins and see what happens.
>Thanks for the tip, Mike. I'm still using a single-core CPU though.
-David
"Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>
>Hi David,
>
>If your upgrade was to a dual or quad core CPU, you'll need to either lock
>the PARIS app and driver to a single CPU or buy my new driver that was re-written
>for multiple CPU computers.
>
>It's available at ensoniq.ca
>
>All the best,
>
>Mike
>
>"David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi guys,
>>I'm hoping that someone out there can help me trouble-shoot a problem that
>>I'm having with my Control 16, namely that it stopped working after I upgraded
>>and moved my Paris set-up. I've tested two different C-16 units and both
>>of them just sit with static random light patterns while Paris is running
>>and are otherwise unresponsive. This is leading me to think that maybe
>I
>>have a problem with my EDS card or possibly a software glitch? Has anyone
>>else ever had this type of problem? What do you think my best options
are?
>> Or what other things can I do to try to troubleshoot?
>>
>>In another issue, I've just recently set up my Paris system fully connected
>>to my 24-channel mixer. I'm interested in using my 8-out cards to route
>>16 channels out to the board to mix out of the Paris box (so to speak),
>but
>>I'm having trouble figuring out how to route this properly in the Paris
>patch-bay.
>> Maybe there's something that I'm missing as a beginner to this sort of
>thing.
>> If anyone has any feedback on either of these issues, your help is much
>>appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>David
>Thanks for the tips. I'm pretty sure I'm using a standard CAT5 cable for
my C16. I guess I'll check that again with a third cable.
-David
EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>You ARE using a standard CAT5 cable and NOT a crossover cable for the
>C16's... right?
>
>Double click on the MEC modules block in the patchbay window. The next
>window contains the I/O module assignment (P34 in the owners manual).
>Drag the appropriate modules into the locations required, and then patch
>away.
>
>David.
>
>David Feldman wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>> I'm hoping that someone out there can help me trouble-shoot a problem
that
>> I'm having with my Control 16, namely that it stopped working after I
upgraded
>> and moved my Paris set-up. I've tested two different C-16 units and both
>> of them just sit with static random light patterns while Paris is running
>> and are otherwise unresponsive. This is leading me to think that maybe
I
>> have a problem with my EDS card or possibly a software glitch? Has anyone
>> else ever had this type of problem? What do you think my best options
are?
>> Or what other things can I do to try to troubleshoot?
>>
>> In another issue, I've just recently set up my Paris system fully connected
>> to my 24-channel mixer. I'm interested in using my 8-out cards to route
>> 16 channels out to the board to mix out of the Paris box (so to speak),
but
>> I'm having trouble figuring out how to route this properly in the Paris
patch-bay.
>> Maybe there's something that I'm missing as a beginner to this sort of
thing.
>> If anyone has any feedback on either of these issues, your help is much
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> DavidBill,
guitar speakers and tube guitar amps come to mind. check out the eminence.com
website. If it's still there, they had audio samples of their different
speaker lines that I thought was effective.
on the amp side, there's probably a market for comparing variious Vox, Marshall,
Fender, Peavey etc amp sounds in their dominant use - or at least clips of
them. For example, I remember trying out an amp 10 years ago in a store
that I _think_ was a 4x10 Fender Blues Deville that was one of the coolest
amp tones I'd ever heard. It was a store with a back room where I could
close the back room door and just play. Often it's impossible to really
listen to amps in stores though, and somebody running through sounds would
be of benefit.
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>I got a wild hair and thought I would do a quick reality-check marketing
>survey.
>
>1. Would you be interested to visit a website where you could hear
>comparison audio samples of competing musical equipment products, for
>example: Guitar Modelers, Guitar Amps, Synthesizers, Instruments, Audio
>Effects Plugins, Synth Plugins?
>
>2. If so, what types of products would you be most interested to hear
>compared?
>
>Thanks!I just want to share my happyness with all you guys...I live in small contry
Croatia,and for past 12 years work very hard like producer and Dj,many times
i think i will never be able to make something that will be heard out of my
country...Yesterday RADIOEXPRESS servis published song name Disco
Rollercoaster ..band name is Magnetic...it is completly mixed on Paris with
Tubetech smc2b on master insert ..it is my biggest success....
Thank you all
Goran Stojiljkoviccongrats! let this be just the beginning.
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:16:28 +0100, "Goran Stojiljkovic"
<goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>I just want to share my happyness with all you guys...I live in small contry
>Croatia,and for past 12 years work very hard like producer and Dj,many times
>i think i will never be able to make something that will be heard out of my
>country...Yesterday RADIOEXPRESS servis published song name Disco
>Rollercoaster ..band name is Magnetic...it is completly mixed on Paris with
>Tubetech smc2b on master insert ..it is my biggest success....
>Thank you all
>
>Goran Stojiljkovic
>Congratulations. Your hard work has paid off. It's also great doing something
you enjoy! Nice job.
JohnWhat do you mean "thrash"? Is that more clean gain? I do like the idea
of the 3 individual switches.
Actually I am running into a small problem with the 89s that they
overdrive the compressor in the Tonelab. Even at the lowest setting,
there is too much click on the attack. I'm finding I get the best tone
with the volume knobs down to 3 or 4, which bugs me because all my life
I have just put vols at 10. I guess I can learn some new tricks if I
have to.
W. Mark Wilson wrote:
> I have that same pot on mine Bill... "RPC" as I recall (sooooo long ago
> now) and it does throw a rise on output that really drives any amp nicely,
> clean or dirty. Here's a tip on those SA's.... run them on 9V and they
> remain kinda compressed sounding. Put them on 18V and they thrash nicely.
> I simply cut my strat for 2 9V batts and added a series/parallel switch for
> 9V/18V. I also elected to have an on off for every pickup output as opposed
> to a 5-way switch. It gives me three extra positions: all on / all off /
> 1 & 3 only. The 1 and 3 only position with the RPC up full makes for some
> great pedal steel tones if you can vol-pedal and whammy emulate pedal steel
> vibrato.
>
> Mark
>
> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:4943f487$1@linux...
>> Mark, I've got SAs in my custom mid-80's "strat" too (my guitar tech calls
>> it my "pointy guitar" 'cause of that 80's headstock), and I still love
>> 'em. On the strat I installed a mid boost circuit replacing the 3rd pot (I
>> found a tone control on the bridge pickup oxymoronic anyway). This circuit
>> gives a little more balls for crunch and sometimes a little extra body for
>> playing jazz or fusion (which I try to avoid with this guitar). Anyway, I
>> do agree EMGs are sweet.
>>
>> One thing I was not aware of until reading the diagram for this install
>> (which was a bitch in a semi-hollow, BTW) is that they recommend adjusting
>> their PUPs as close to the string as possible for maximum tone. They state
>> that the mag field is so weak there is no danger of string pull.
>>
>> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> EYE----LLLLLLOOOOOVVVVVVEEEEEE EMG's. There are only a few passives
>>> that I wish for and I do have them (the Bill Lawrence L500 being 3 of
>>> them). I've got a set of original SA's in a strat I built 22 years ago.
>>> Rod Lincoln will probably remember seeing this guitar as I had just
>>> finished it when he and I did a little touring together. I haven't
>>> touched the guitar since the day I put it together. These SA's have seen
>>> action every day with rare exception for 22 years and they still blow me
>>> and everybody else away.
>>>
>>> W. Mark Wilson
>>>
>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>> news:493fe8f0$1@linux...
>>>> A few months ago I posted asking my friends to talk me out of adding a
>>>> single coil pickup to my Ibanez Artist semi-hollow electric (335-style).
>>>> I withdrew from that path of no return and installed EMG 89s. They are a
>>>> humbucker case with both a complete humbucker and a complete single coil
>>>> inside, side by side.
>>>>
>>>> While I lost the predomoinance of gritty high mids that worked for some
>>>> sounds, but were a problem with others (and which I can get back easily
>>>> with tone controls), I have gained a lot of new sounds which are hugely
>>>> advantageous and make the guitar a true Gigmaster. I can use it for
>>>> jazz, rock and spanking R&B and everything in between.
>>>>
>>>> It does not sound like a Strat, mind you; it doesn't have the je ne sais
>>>> quoi - dare I call it "deadness" - of a real Strat but it does give
>>>> sweet single coil sounds that fit really well in music on which I would
>>>> normally use my strat. An interesting unexpected benefit is how I love
>>>> the single coil neck position for straight ahead jazz tone.
>>>>
>>>> Check 'em out!
>It has been awhile since I've posted here.I've still used Paris over the years
but I'm going to change very soon as time really moves on.I have a spare
Paris EDS card and I'd like to sell it.
It's never been used/let me know if there is any interest or if there are
any ideas on the best place to sell it
Peace, JasonOK so reviewing the manual again there is no way to link a MEC and 442. One
would need two EDS cards. What I really need is an 8 in expansion card for
the MEC, correct?
Do the MEC and the expansion cards connect internally with a ribbon cable
or something?
What is the simplest way to check the MEC inputs to see if they work?
EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>Both the MEC and 442 connect to EDS cards by way of the SCSI-II
>connection on the back of the units labeled "EDS Computer Interface"
>The DIN plug labeled "To I/F2" is for just that, an IF2 interface
>addition... which you are not using.
>
>David.
>
>John Minnella wrote:
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gt;>> but not to plug the din cable into the EDS card. When you say
>>> the 75 ohm cable are you talking about the word clock connections?
>The difference between a MEC and 442 are the 9 expansion cardplaces on the
MEC.
You can use the MEC without any expansion card, as a 442. But with in and
out expansion cards, you can use the full 24 bits bandwidth in Paris. If you
want to use both a MEC and a 442 with Paris, you need 2 EDS cards and as
Davis said, connected with SCSI-II cables between MEC/442 and EDS cards
that's syncronized with specialcutted ribbon cables inside the computer. If
you're using more than one EDS card inside the computer, all cards must be
syncronized with each other with these kind of ribboncables. You can also
use more than one EDS card with just one MEC/442 box.
The simplest way to check anything with Paris, hmmm, there must be many
simple ways but a mixer coupled to in on the MEC, get correct patching in
Paris and try recording with mic/instruments through the mixer. The manual
will be a good help to learn how but if there's some problems, don't be
afraid to ask more here.
Good luck
Erling
"John Minnella" <minnella@life.arizona.edu> skrev i melding
news:494913ec$1@linux...
>
> OK so reviewing the manual again there is no way to link a MEC and 442.
> One
> would need two EDS cards. What I really need is an 8 in expansion card for
> the MEC, correct?
> Do the MEC and the expansion cards connect internally with a ribbon cable
> or something?
> What is the simplest way to check the MEC inputs to see if they work?
>
>
> EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>>Both the MEC and 442 connect to EDS cards by way of the SCSI-II
>>connection on the back of the units labeled "EDS Computer Interface"
>>The DIN plug labeled "To I/F2" is for just that, an IF2 interface
>>addition... which you are not using.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>John Minnella wrote:
>>> OK well now I am confused. I have the original docs and the
>>> manual says to connect the MEC and the 442 with the mini din,
>>> but not to plug the din cable into the EDS card. When you say
>>> the 75 ohm cable are you talking about the word clock connections?
>
does it say when 4.0 will be ready????????????????Bravo! Well done Goran!
Goran Stojiljkovic wrote:
> I just want to share my happyness with all you guys...I live in small contry
> Croatia,and for past 12 years work very hard like producer and Dj,many times
> i think i will never be able to make something that will be heard out of my
> country...Yesterday RADIOEXPRESS servis published song name Disco
> Rollercoaster ..band name is Magnetic...it is completly mixed on Paris with
> Tubetech smc2b on master insert ..it is my biggest success....
> Thank you all
>
> Goran Stojiljkovic
>
>From: http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_11252148
"The "zero-day" vulnerability, which came to light last week, allows
criminals to take over victims' machines simply by steering them to
infected Web sites; users don't have to download anything for their
computers to get infected, which makes the flaw in Internet Explorer's
programming code so dangerous."
You can wait for the MS fix or make the jump and get Firefox:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/
Firefox is working well here. I run it on a Mac and currently prefer it
to IE and Safari.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com......there's a rumour that SSC still working on it in heaven and will be
finnished soon, if Edmund have enough will....
"rick" <parnell68athotmaildotcom> skrev i melding
news:ne9ik4ts2j3mvspeqd4khluqio544p75lt@4ax.com...
> does it say when 4.0 will be ready????????????????By thrash, I mean, dynamic range. On a 9V supply (the minumum op voltage)
they tend to output a narrower dynamic range (eg, compressoion). On 18V,
the range opens.
WMW
"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:4948f883$1@linux...
> What do you mean "thrash"? Is that more clean gain? I do like the idea of
> the 3 individual switches.
>
> Actually I am running into a small problem with the 89s that they
> overdrive the compressor in the Tonelab. Even at the lowest setting, there
> is too much click on the attack. I'm finding I get the best tone with the
> volume knobs down to 3 or 4, which bugs me because all my life I have just
> put vols at 10. I guess I can learn some new tricks if I have to.
>
> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>> I have that same pot on mine Bill... "RPC" as I recall (sooooo long ago
>> now) and it does throw a rise on output that really drives any amp
>> nicely, clean or dirty. Here's a tip on those SA's.... run them on 9V
>> and they remain kinda compressed sounding. Put them on 18V and they
>> thrash nicely. I simply cut my strat for 2 9V batts and added a
>> series/parallel switch for 9V/18V. I also elected to have an on off for
>> every pickup output as opposed to a 5-way switch. It gives me three
>> extra positions: all on / all off / 1 & 3 only. The 1 and 3 only
>> position with the RPC up full makes for some great pedal steel tones if
>> you can vol-pedal and whammy emulate pedal steel vibrato.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>> news:4943f487$1@linux...
>>> Mark, I've got SAs in my custom mid-80's "strat" too (my guitar tech
>>> calls it my "pointy guitar" 'cause of that 80's headstock), and I still
>>> love 'em. On the strat I installed a mid boost circuit replacing the 3rd
>>> pot (I found a tone control on the bridge pickup oxymoronic anyway).
>>> This circuit gives a little more balls for crunch and sometimes a little
>>> extra body for playing jazz or fusion (which I try to avoid with this
>>> guitar). Anyway, I do agree EMGs are sweet.
>>>
>>> One thing I was not aware of until reading the diagram for this install
>>> (which was a bitch in a semi-hollow, BTW) is that they recommend
>>> adjusting their PUPs as close to the string as possible for maximum
>>> tone. They state that the mag field is so weak there is no danger of
>>> string pull.
>>>
>>> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>> Bill,
>>>>
>>>> EYE----LLLLLLOOOOOVVVVVVEEEEEE EMG's. There are only a few passives
>>>> that I wish for and I do have them (the Bill Lawrence L500 being 3 of
>>>> them). I've got a set of original SA's in a strat I built 22 years
>>>> ago. Rod Lincoln will probably remember seeing this guitar as I had
>>>> just finished it when he and I did a little touring together. I
>>>> haven't touched the guitar since the day I put it together. These SA's
>>>> have seen action every day with rare exception for 22 years and they
>>>> still blow me and everybody else away.
>>>>
>>>> W. Mark Wilson
>>>>
>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:493fe8f0$1@linux...
>>>>> A few months ago I posted asking my friends to talk me out of adding a
>>>>> single coil pickup to my Ibanez Artist semi-hollow electric
>>>>> (335-style). I withdrew from that path of no return and installed EMG
>>>>> 89s. They are a humbucker case with both a complete humbucker and a
>>>>> complete single coil inside, side by side.
>>>>>
>>>>> While I lost the predomoinance of gritty high mids that worked for
>>>>> some sounds, but were a problem with others (and which I can get back
>>>>> easily with tone controls), I have gained a lot of new sounds which
>>>>> are hugely advantageous and make the guitar a true Gigmaster. I can
>>>>> use it for jazz, rock and spanking R&B and everything in between.
>>>>>
>>>>> It does not sound like a Strat, mind you; it doesn't have the je ne
>>>>> sais quoi - dare I call it "deadness" - of a real Strat but it does
>>>>> give sweet single coil sounds that fit really well in music on which I
>>>>> would normally use my strat. An interesting unexpected benefit is how
>>>>> I love the single coil neck position for straight ahead jazz tone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Check 'em out!
>>Hey Jason,
What are you using now?
Gantt
"Jason Miles" <Jmiles45@aol.com> wrote:
>
>It has been awhile since I've posted here.I've still used Paris over the
years
>but I'm going to change very soon as time really moves on.I have a spare
>Paris EDS card and I'd like to sell it.
>It's never been used/let me know if there is any interest or if there are
>any ideas on the best place to sell it
>Peace, JasonHave used Firefox som years now. I don't want to still be a betatester for
Microsoft.
Erling
"Jamie K" <JamieN0-SPAM@JamieKrutzN0-SPAM.com> skrev i melding
news:49493917@linux...
>
> From: http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_11252148
> "The "zero-day" vulnerability, which came to light last week, allows
> criminals to take over victims' machines simply by steering them to
> infected Web sites; users don't have to download anything for their
> computers to get infected, which makes the flaw in Internet Explorer's
> programming code so dangerous."
>
> You can wait for the MS fix or make the jump and get Firefox:
>
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/
>
> Firefox is working well here. I run it on a Mac and currently prefer it to
> IE and Safari.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.comMajor congrats....... keep it up and enjoy the ride!!
-Will
"Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>I just want to share my happyness with all you guys...I live in small contry
>Croatia,and for past 12 years work very hard like producer and Dj,many times
>i think i will never be able to make something that will be heard out of
my
>country...Yesterday RADIOEXPRESS servis published song name Disco
>Rollercoaster ..band name is Magnetic...it is completly mixed on Paris with
>Tubetech smc2b on master insert ..it is my biggest success....
>Thank you all
>
>Goran Stojiljkovic
>
>Thank you all...my friends buy cars,they all have own houses..i am sub
tenant for 17 years,my money goes for gear and education..all this time work
hard on my self...sometimes i feel like everything passes me by,but pleasure
when Im pleased with something is enormous...Its great thing,when you nead
somenes help,that someone is here...Im not sheamed to ask..thank you
again...
sorry for my English...
Goran
"Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote in message
news:4948b90b@linux...
>I just want to share my happyness with all you guys...I live in small
>contry Croatia,and for past 12 years work very hard like producer and
>Dj,many times i think i will never be able to make something that will be
>heard out of my country...Yesterday RADIOEXPRESS servis published song name
>Disco Rollercoaster ..band name is Magnetic...it is completly mixed on
>Paris with Tubetech smc2b on master insert ..it is my biggest success....
> Thank you all
>
> Goran Stojiljkovic
>your english is better than most americans nowadays...and my croation
sucks.
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:12:36 +0100, "Goran Stojiljkovic"
<goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>Thank you all...my friends buy cars,they all have own houses..i am sub
>tenant for 17 years,my money goes for gear and education..all this time work
>hard on my self...sometimes i feel like everything passes me by,but pleasure
>when Im pleased with something is enormous...Its great thing,when you nead
>somenes help,that someone is here...Im not sheamed to ask..thank you
>again...
>sorry for my English...
>
>Goran
>"Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote in message
>news:4948b90b@linux...
>>I just want to share my happyness with all you guys...I live in small
>>contry Croatia,and for past 12 years work very hard like producer and
>>Dj,many times i think i will never be able to make something that will be
>>heard out of my country...Yesterday RADIOEXPRESS servis published song name
>>Disco Rollercoaster ..band name is Magnetic...it is completly mixed on
>>Paris with Tubetech smc2b on master insert ..it is my biggest success....
>> Thank you all
>>
>> Goran Stojiljkovic
>>
>"Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>Thank you all...my friends buy cars,they all have own houses..i am sub
>tenant for 17 years,my money goes for gear and education..all this time
work
>hard on my self...sometimes i feel like everything passes me by,
Years ago, when I needed a new car, I also wanted an audiophile
stereo system. I put 2/3 of the money I could have spent on the car into
the audio system. Today the audio system still brings tons of listening enjoyment
for me and others. The car has been
replaced four times over...
Congrats on your achievements!
TedHi All -
I just picked up our band's new CD from the plant, and wanted to share a
few tunes with you guys. Nothing's perfect, and you folks are a tough audience
(listening to content _and_ production) but what the hey?
Tracked in PARIS, mixed in Logic, summed through a Modded Neotek
to tape, Mastered with the Audio-Cube system.
Ted
Some of the tracks are here:
http://www.brilliantjoe.com/full_mp3s/
The band's website is here:
http://www.brilliantjoe.com/index.htmlI'm trying out Firefox here. What do you use for your email?
Rod
Jamie K <JamieN0-SPAM@JamieKrutzN0-SPAM.com> wrote:
>
>From: http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_11252148
>"The "zero-day" vulnerability, which came to light last week, allows
>criminals to take over victims' machines simply by steering them to
>infected Web sites; users don't have to download anything for their
>computers to get infected, which makes the flaw in Internet Explorer's
>programming code so dangerous."
>
>You can wait for the MS fix or make the jump and get Firefox:
>
>http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/
>
>Firefox is working well here. I run it on a Mac and currently prefer it
>to IE and Safari.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.comI am using Thunderbird here... also from Mozilla. It is a newer version
of Netscape mail, I quite like it because all my accounts including news
are in one window.
David.
Rod Lincoln wrote:
> I'm trying out Firefox here. What do you use for your email?
> Rod
> Jamie K <JamieN0-SPAM@JamieKrutzN0-SPAM.com> wrote:
>> From: http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_11252148
>> "The "zero-day" vulnerability, which came to light last week, allows
>> criminals to take over victims' machines simply by steering them to
>> infected Web sites; users don't have to download anything for their
>> computers to get infected, which makes the flaw in Internet Explorer's
>> programming code so dangerous."
>>
>> You can wait for the MS fix or make the jump and get Firefox:
>>
>> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/
>>
>> Firefox is working well here. I run it on a Mac and currently prefer it
>
>> to IE and Safari.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>Using PT-getting ready for PT 8-Doesn't sound like Paris of course but some
voodoo has it sounding good
BTW-Is there anybody here that has any idea what an EDS card is worth?
Peace, jason+1 for Thunderbird. Works great for email and newsgroups. I'm replying
from it right now!
Another plus for Thunderbird and Firefox is that they work well on Mac,
MSWindows and Linux. So if you ever change OS platforms you can keep the
same email and browser setup. Same goes for Open Office.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
EK Sound wrote:
> I am using Thunderbird here... also from Mozilla. It is a newer version
> of Netscape mail, I quite like it because all my accounts including news
> are in one window.
>
> David.
>
> Rod Lincoln wrote:
>> I'm trying out Firefox here. What do you use for your email?
>> Rod
>> Jamie K <JamieN0-SPAM@JamieKrutzN0-SPAM.com> wrote:
>>> From: http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_11252148
>>> "The "zero-day" vulnerability, which came to light last week, allows
>>> criminals to take over victims' machines simply by steering them to
>>> infected Web sites; users don't have to download anything for their
>>> computers to get infected, which makes the flaw in Internet
>>> Explorer's programming code so dangerous."
>>>
>>> You can wait for the MS fix or make the jump and get Firefox:
>>>
>>> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/
>>>
>>> Firefox is working well here. I run it on a Mac and currently prefer it
>>
>>> to IE and Safari.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>Jason Miles wrote:
> Using PT-getting ready for PT 8-Doesn't sound like Paris of course but some
> voodoo has it sounding good
>
> BTW-Is there anybody here that has any idea what an EDS card is worth?
> Peace, jason
When I sold my PARIS stuff I looked on the forsale section of this
newsgroup and roughly averaged the prices for the last month or two to
come up with reasonable asking prices.
Good luck with your new recording setup and keep up the great work!
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.comHi Jason,
Roughly around $150.00 is the average price at the moment, (on the
forsale group anyway). Ebay might be slightly higher, but then you have
to deal with ebay..
I just installed PT8 last night.. still haven't put it through it's
paces but I love the new midi features, I've been waiting for that for
years in PT.
Cheers,
TC
Jason Miles wrote:
> Using PT-getting ready for PT 8-Doesn't sound like Paris of course but some
> voodoo has it sounding good
>
> BTW-Is there anybody here that has any idea what an EDS card is worth?
> Peace, jasonOK thanks
Rod
Jamie K <JamieN0-SPAM@JamieKrutzN0-SPAM.com> wrote:
>
>+1 for Thunderbird. Works great for email and newsgroups. I'm replying
>from it right now!
>
>Another plus for Thunderbird and Firefox is that they work well on Mac,
>MSWindows and Linux. So if you ever change OS platforms you can keep the
>same email and browser setup. Same goes for Open Office.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>EK Sound wrote:
>> I am using Thunderbird here... also from Mozilla. It is a newer version
>> of Netscape mail, I quite like it because all my accounts including news
>> are in one window.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Rod Lincoln wrote:
>>> I'm trying out Firefox here. What do you use for your email?
>>> Rod
>>> Jamie K <JamieN0-SPAM@JamieKrutzN0-SPAM.com> wrote:
>>>> From: http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_11252148
>>>> "The "zero-day" vulnerability, which came to light last week, allows
>>>> criminals to take over victims' machines simply by steering them to
>>>> infected Web sites; users don't have to download anything for their
>>>> computers to get infected, which makes the flaw in Internet
>>>> Explorer's programming code so dangerous."
>>>>
>>>> You can wait for the MS fix or make the jump and get Firefox:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/
>>>>
>>>> Firefox is working well here. I run it on a Mac and currently prefer
it
>>>
>>>> to IE and Safari.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>Thunderbird rocks !
JohnActually it did say. NO SHIT. SOON !!!!!!!!Interesting.
W. Mark Wilson wrote:
> By thrash, I mean, dynamic range. On a 9V supply (the minumum op voltage)
> they tend to output a narrower dynamic range (eg, compressoion). On 18V,
> the range opens.
>
> WMW
>
>
> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:4948f883$1@linux...
>> What do you mean "thrash"? Is that more clean gain? I do like the idea of
>> the 3 individual switches.
>>
>> Actually I am running into a small problem with the 89s that they
>> overdrive the compressor in the Tonelab. Even at the lowest setting, there
>> is too much click on the attack. I'm finding I get the best tone with the
>> volume knobs down to 3 or 4, which bugs me because all my life I have just
>> put vols at 10. I guess I can learn some new tricks if I have to.
>>
>> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>> I have that same pot on mine Bill... "RPC" as I recall (sooooo long ago
>>> now) and it does throw a rise on output that really drives any amp
>>> nicely, clean or dirty. Here's a tip on those SA's.... run them on 9V
>>> and they remain kinda compressed sounding. Put them on 18V and they
>>> thrash nicely. I simply cut my strat for 2 9V batts and added a
>>> series/parallel switch for 9V/18V. I also elected to have an on off for
>>> every pickup output as opposed to a 5-way switch. It gives me three
>>> extra positions: all on / all off / 1 & 3 only. The 1 and 3 only
>>> position with the RPC up full makes for some great pedal steel tones if
>>> you can vol-pedal and whammy emulate pedal steel vibrato.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4943f487$1@linux...
>>>> Mark, I've got SAs in my custom mid-80's "strat" too (my guitar tech
>>>> calls it my "pointy guitar" 'cause of that 80's headstock), and I still
>>>> love 'em. On the strat I installed a mid boost circuit replacing the 3rd
>>>> pot (I found a tone control on the bridge pickup oxymoronic anyway).
>>>> This circuit gives a little more balls for crunch and sometimes a little
>>>> extra body for playing jazz or fusion (which I try to avoid with this
>>>> guitar). Anyway, I do agree EMGs are sweet.
>>>>
>>>> One thing I was not aware of until reading the diagram for this install
>>>> (which was a bitch in a semi-hollow, BTW) is that they recommend
>>>> adjusting their PUPs as close to the string as possible for maximum
>>>> tone. They state that the mag field is so weak there is no danger of
>>>> string pull.
>>>>
>>>> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>
>>>>> EYE----LLLLLLOOOOOVVVVVVEEEEEE EMG's. There are only a few passives
>>>>> that I wish for and I do have them (the Bill Lawrence L500 being 3 of
>>>>> them). I've got a set of original SA's in a strat I built 22 years
>>>>> ago. Rod Lincoln will probably remember seeing this guitar as I had
>>>>> just finished it when he and I did a little touring together. I
>>>>> haven't touched the guitar since the day I put it together. These SA's
>>>>> have seen action every day with rare exception for 22 years and they
>>>>> still blow me and everybody else away.
>>>>>
>>>>> W. Mark Wilson
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:493fe8f0$1@linux...
>>>>>> A few months ago I posted asking my friends to talk me out of adding a
>>>>>> single coil pickup to my Ibanez Artist semi-hollow electric
>>>>>> (335-style). I withdrew from that path of no return and installed EMG
>>>>>> 89s. They are a humbucker case with both a complete humbucker and a
>>>>>> complete single coil inside, side by side.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While I lost the predomoinance of gritty high mids that worked for
>>>>>> some sounds, but were a problem with others (and which I can get back
>>>>>> easily with tone controls), I have gained a lot of new sounds which
>>>>>> are hugely advantageous and make the guitar a true Gigmaster. I can
>>>>>> use it for jazz, rock and spanking R&B and everything in between.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It does not sound like a Strat, mind you; it doesn't have the je ne
>>>>>> sais quoi - dare I call it "deadness" - of a real Strat but it does
>>>>>> give sweet single coil sounds that fit really well in music on which I
>>>>>> would normally use my strat. An interesting unexpected benefit is how
>>>>>> I love the single coil neck position for straight ahead jazz tone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check 'em out!
>
>This information came straight from Overlend Corp techs (who at that time
was EMG).
WMW
"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:494ae51f$1@linux...
> Interesting.
>
> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>> By thrash, I mean, dynamic range. On a 9V supply (the minumum op
>> voltage) they tend to output a narrower dynamic range (eg, compressoion).
>> On 18V, the range opens.
>>
>> WMW
>>
>>
>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>> news:4948f883$1@linux...
>>> What do you mean "thrash"? Is that more clean gain? I do like the idea
>>> of the 3 individual switches.
>>>
>>> Actually I am running into a small problem with the 89s that they
>>> overdrive the compressor in the Tonelab. Even at the lowest setting,
>>> there is too much click on the attack. I'm finding I get the best tone
>>> with the volume knobs down to 3 or 4, which bugs me because all my life
>>> I have just put vols at 10. I guess I can learn some new tricks if I
>>> have to.
>>>
>>> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>> I have that same pot on mine Bill... "RPC" as I recall (sooooo long
>>>> ago now) and it does throw a rise on output that really drives any amp
>>>> nicely, clean or dirty. Here's a tip on those SA's.... run them on
>>>> 9V and they remain kinda compressed sounding. Put them on 18V and they
>>>> thrash nicely. I simply cut my strat for 2 9V batts and added a
>>>> series/parallel switch for 9V/18V. I also elected to have an on off
>>>> for every pickup output as opposed to a 5-way switch. It gives me
>>>> three extra positions: all on / all off / 1 & 3 only. The 1 and 3
>>>> only position with the RPC up full makes for some great pedal steel
>>>> tones if you can vol-pedal and whammy emulate pedal steel vibrato.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4943f487$1@linux...
>>>>> Mark, I've got SAs in my custom mid-80's "strat" too (my guitar tech
>>>>> calls it my "pointy guitar" 'cause of that 80's headstock), and I
>>>>> still love 'em. On the strat I installed a mid boost circuit replacing
>>>>> the 3rd pot (I found a tone control on the bridge pickup oxymoronic
>>>>> anyway). This circuit gives a little more balls for crunch and
>>>>> sometimes a little extra body for playing jazz or fusion (which I try
>>>>> to avoid with this guitar). Anyway, I do agree EMGs are sweet.
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing I was not aware of until reading the diagram for this
>>>>> install (which was a bitch in a semi-hollow, BTW) is that they
>>>>> recommend adjusting their PUPs as close to the string as possible for
>>>>> maximum tone. They state that the mag field is so weak there is no
>>>>> danger of string pull.
>>>>>
>>>>> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EYE----LLLLLLOOOOOVVVVVVEEEEEE EMG's. There are only a few passives
>>>>>> that I wish for and I do have them (the Bill Lawrence L500 being 3 of
>>>>>> them). I've got a set of original SA's in a strat I built 22 years
>>>>>> ago. Rod Lincoln will probably remember seeing this guitar as I had
>>>>>> just finished it when he and I did a little touring together. I
>>>>>> haven't touched the guitar since the day I put it together. These
>>>>>> SA's have seen action every day with rare exception for 22 years and
>>>>>> they still blow me and everybody else away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> W. Mark Wilson
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:493fe8f0$1@linux...
>>>>>>> A few months ago I posted asking my friends to talk me out of adding
>>>>>>> a single coil pickup to my Ibanez Artist semi-hollow electric
>>>>>>> (335-style). I withdrew from that path of no return and installed
>>>>>>> EMG 89s. They are a humbucker case with both a complete humbucker
>>>>>>> and a complete single coil inside, side by side.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While I lost the predomoinance of gritty high mids that worked for
>>>>>>> some sounds, but were a problem with others (and which I can get
>>>>>>> back easily with tone controls), I have gained a lot of new sounds
>>>>>>> which are hugely advantageous and make the guitar a true Gigmaster.
>>>>>>> I can use it for jazz, rock and spanking R&B and everything in
>>>>>>> between.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It does not sound like a Strat, mind you; it doesn't have the je ne
>>>>>>> sais quoi - dare I call it "deadness" - of a real Strat but it does
>>>>>>> give sweet single coil sounds that fit really well in music on which
>>>>>>> I would normally use my strat. An interesting unexpected benefit is
>>>>>>> how I love the single coil neck position for straight ahead jazz
>>>>>>> tone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Check 'em out!
>>oh thank heaven for v 4.11
On 19 Dec 2008 09:09:37 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Actually it did say. NO SHIT. SOON !!!!!!!!As in the book will be soon, or the book says paris 4.0 will be soon. I know
you said no shit, but are you shittin me?
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Actually it did say. NO SHIT. SOON !!!!!!!!The book is available but that's it. Paris ain't no more. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&searchlink=JIMI |HENDRIX&sql=11:hnfexqr5ldte~T2FYI, he died September 18, 1970
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&searchlink=JIMI |HENDRIX&sql=11:hnfexqr5ldte~T2i'm guessing the zevon man is who you are referencing...and i'm still
waiting for your fist...or am i too late.
On 21 Dec 2008 00:56:55 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>FYI, he died September 18, 1970
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&searchlink=JIMI |HENDRIX&sql=11:hnfexqr5ldte~T2PESSIMIST!!!!!!!!!!
On 20 Dec 2008 09:05:24 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>The book is available but that's it. Paris ain't no more.It makes sense. The local Sam Ash tech who is pretty smart, suggested I
be careful to keep the batteries up to 9 volts and use a meter to make
sure of it. You mention below that you use a series parallel switch. Is
that so you can use one battery if you need to? Could you 'splain me how
that's wired?
Damn, I love this N/G. We got some smart and talented folks here in
Casablanca.
W. Mark Wilson wrote:
> This information came straight from Overlend Corp techs (who at that time
> was EMG).
>
> WMW
>
> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:494ae51f$1@linux...
>> Interesting.
>>
>> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>> By thrash, I mean, dynamic range. On a 9V supply (the minumum op
>>> voltage) they tend to output a narrower dynamic range (eg, compressoion).
>>> On 18V, the range opens.
>>>
>>> WMW
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4948f883$1@linux...
>>>> What do you mean "thrash"? Is that more clean gain? I do like the idea
>>>> of the 3 individual switches.
>>>>
>>>> Actually I am running into a small problem with the 89s that they
>>>> overdrive the compressor in the Tonelab. Even at the lowest setting,
>>>> there is too much click on the attack. I'm finding I get the best tone
>>>> with the volume knobs down to 3 or 4, which bugs me because all my life
>>>> I have just put vols at 10. I guess I can learn some new tricks if I
>>>> have to.
>>>>
>>>> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>>> I have that same pot on mine Bill... "RPC" as I recall (sooooo long
>>>>> ago now) and it does throw a rise on output that really drives any amp
>>>>> nicely, clean or dirty. Here's a tip on those SA's.... run them on
>>>>> 9V and they remain kinda compressed sounding. Put them on 18V and they
>>>>> thrash nicely. I simply cut my strat for 2 9V batts and added a
>>>>> series/parallel switch for 9V/18V. I also elected to have an on off
>>>>> for every pickup output as opposed to a 5-way switch. It gives me
>>>>> three extra positions: all on / all off / 1 & 3 only. The 1 and 3
>>>>> only position with the RPC up full makes for some great pedal steel
>>>>> tones if you can vol-pedal and whammy emulate pedal steel vibrato.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4943f487$1@linux...
>>>>>> Mark, I've got SAs in my custom mid-80's "strat" too (my guitar tech
>>>>>> calls it my "pointy guitar" 'cause of that 80's headstock), and I
>>>>>> still love 'em. On the strat I installed a mid boost circuit replacing
>>>>>> the 3rd pot (I found a tone control on the bridge pickup oxymoronic
>>>>>> anyway). This circuit gives a little more balls for crunch and
>>>>>> sometimes a little extra body for playing jazz or fusion (which I try
>>>>>> to avoid with this guitar). Anyway, I do agree EMGs are sweet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One thing I was not aware of until reading the diagram for this
>>>>>> install (which was a bitch in a semi-hollow, BTW) is that they
>>>>>> recommend adjusting their PUPs as close to the string as possible for
>>>>>> maximum tone. They state that the mag field is so weak there is no
>>>>>> danger of string pull.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> EYE----LLLLLLOOOOOVVVVVVEEEEEE EMG's. There are only a few passives
>>>>>>> that I wish for and I do have them (the Bill Lawrence L500 being 3 of
>>>>>>> them). I've got a set of original SA's in a strat I built 22 years
>>>>>>> ago. Rod Lincoln will probably remember seeing this guitar as I had
>>>>>>> just finished it when he and I did a little touring together. I
>>>>>>> haven't touched the guitar since the day I put it together. These
>>>>>>> SA's have seen action every day with rare exception for 22 years and
>>>>>>> they still blow me and everybody else away.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> W. Mark Wilson
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:493fe8f0$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> A few months ago I posted asking my friends to talk me out of adding
>>>>>>>> a single coil pickup to my Ibanez Artist semi-hollow electric
>>>>>>>> (335-style). I withdrew from that path of no return and installed
>>>>>>>> EMG 89s. They are a humbucker case with both a complete humbucker
>>>>>>>> and a complete single coil inside, side by side.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While I lost the predomoinance of gritty high mids that worked for
>>>>>>>> some sounds, but were a problem with others (and which I can get
>>>>>>>> back easily with tone controls), I have gained a lot of new sounds
>>>>>>>> which are hugely advantageous and make the guitar a true Gigmaster.
>>>>>>>> I can use it for jazz, rock and spanking R&B and everything in
>>>>>>>> between.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It does not sound like a Strat, mind you; it doesn't have the je ne
>>>>>>>> sais quoi - dare I call it "deadness" - of a real Strat but it does
>>>>>>>> give sweet single coil sounds that fit really well in music on which
>>>>>>>> I would normally use my strat. An interesting unexpected benefit is
>>>>>>>> how I love the single coil neck position for straight ahead jazz
>>>>>>>> tone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Check 'em out!
>External clock brings no joy. I will report back after
Mike's drivers are implemented.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4947f4ab$1@linux...
> Okay, Chris L and Mikes technique got the quad core
> working with Paris and C-16s. This is not using Mike's new drivers yet.
> Went all night in loop mode with the C-16s showing up after 12 hours.
>
> You may have noticed the Macro Express thread. I can't tell you
> how much time that program saves me while working with Paris.
> If you're not using it you should be. I developed the macros to
> work on my rig. Not sure everyone else's will work perfectly.
>
> Today I plan to get external word clock, three mecs and a 442 working.
> Once that's stable I will install the Creamware Pro card then Cubase 4.
> Backing up before each new step of course!
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
> news:C564AE41.C04C%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> WoooHOO! Watching this with great interest.
>>
>> - K
>>
>> On 12/9/08 11:18 PM, in article 493f713c@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Ran a little audio for the first time. CPU was at
>>> 0-3% throughout.
>>>
>>> I'll start loading in some plugins and see what happens.
>>
>
>not zevon, the link goes to jimi hendrix and yep, you're too late, i've already
done a couple album mixes. just having fun.
Johnok, you got me. there could be a new version any day. :-)Did you remember to add "Usehousesync" to the config file?
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>External clock brings no joy. I will report back after
>Mike's drivers are implemented.
>
>
>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4947f4ab$1@linux...
>> Okay, Chris L and Mikes technique got the quad core
>> working with Paris and C-16s. This is not using Mike's new drivers yet.
>> Went all night in loop mode with the C-16s showing up after 12 hours.
>>
>> You may have noticed the Macro Express thread. I can't tell you
>> how much time that program saves me while working with Paris.
>> If you're not using it you should be. I developed the macros to
>> work on my rig. Not sure everyone else's will work perfectly.
>>
>> Today I plan to get external word clock, three mecs and a 442 working.
>> Once that's stable I will install the Creamware Pro card then Cubase 4.
>> Backing up before each new step of course!
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>> news:C564AE41.C04C%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>> WoooHOO! Watching this with great interest.
>>>
>>> - K
>>>
>>> On 12/9/08 11:18 PM, in article 493f713c@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ran a little audio for the first time. CPU was at
>>>> 0-3% throughout.
>>>>
>>>> I'll start loading in some plugins and see what happens.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Hi Rod,
Ya, UseHouseSync=1 still no go. Tom's Hardware fix
for the C-16, int affinity tool too.
I'm having trouble seeing all the mecs and the one 442.
They show in the master position only. Even with
internal sync. I've tried wc cables in series (used to work for me)
and parallel.
Mecs attached to first card-last card, first card-second card.
Nothing, just the master mec. Swapped cables, eds cards
mecs and every thing works except extra mecs.
I am trying Mikes drivers tonight.
This is the same thing that was happening when I started
smoking mecs with a bad scsi2 cable. That was /is reason enough
for me to drop Paris.
I'll get it going one way or another.
Tom
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:494d7dd2$1@linux...
>
> Did you remember to add "Usehousesync" to the config file?
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>External clock brings no joy. I will report back after
>>Mike's drivers are implemented.
>>
>>
>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:4947f4ab$1@linux...
>>> Okay, Chris L and Mikes technique got the quad core
>>> working with Paris and C-16s. This is not using Mike's new drivers yet.
>>> Went all night in loop mode with the C-16s showing up after 12 hours.
>>>
>>> You may have noticed the Macro Express thread. I can't tell you
>>> how much time that program saves me while working with Paris.
>>> If you're not using it you should be. I developed the macros to
>>> work on my rig. Not sure everyone else's will work perfectly.
>>>
>>> Today I plan to get external word clock, three mecs and a 442 working.
>>> Once that's stable I will install the Creamware Pro card then Cubase 4.
>>> Backing up before each new step of course!
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>> news:C564AE41.C04C%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>>> WoooHOO! Watching this with great interest.
>>>>
>>>> - K
>>>>
>>>> On 12/9/08 11:18 PM, in article 493f713c@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ran a little audio for the first time. CPU was at
>>>>> 0-3% throughout.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll start loading in some plugins and see what happens.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Huh. That's Rick Turner's thing too - he runs his piezo systems at 18v
because he says transients can take the full 9v and then some. Seems this
confirms that.
- K
On 12/20/08 11:14 AM, in article 494d47d1$1@linux, "Bill L"
<bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
> It makes sense. The local Sam Ash tech who is pretty smart, suggested I
> be careful to keep the batteries up to 9 volts and use a meter to make
> sure of it. You mention below that you use a series parallel switch. Is
> that so you can use one battery if you need to? Could you 'splain me how
> that's wired?
>
> Damn, I love this N/G. We got some smart and talented folks here in
> Casablanca.
>
> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>> This information came straight from Overlend Corp techs (who at that time
>> was EMG).
>>
>> WMW
>>
>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:494ae51f$1@linux...
>>> Interesting.
>>>
>>> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>> By thrash, I mean, dynamic range. On a 9V supply (the minumum op
>>>> voltage) they tend to output a narrower dynamic range (eg, compressoion).
>>>> On 18V, the range opens.
>>>>
>>>> WMW
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4948f883$1@linux...
>>>>> What do you mean "thrash"? Is that more clean gain? I do like the idea
>>>>> of the 3 individual switches.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually I am running into a small problem with the 89s that they
>>>>> overdrive the compressor in the Tonelab. Even at the lowest setting,
>>>>> there is too much click on the attack. I'm finding I get the best tone
>>>>> with the volume knobs down to 3 or 4, which bugs me because all my life
>>>>> I have just put vols at 10. I guess I can learn some new tricks if I
>>>>> have to.
>>>>>
>>>>> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>>>> I have that same pot on mine Bill... "RPC" as I recall (sooooo long
>>>>>> ago now) and it does throw a rise on output that really drives any amp
>>>>>> nicely, clean or dirty. Here's a tip on those SA's.... run them on
>>>>>> 9V and they remain kinda compressed sounding. Put them on 18V and they
>>>>>> thrash nicely. I simply cut my strat for 2 9V batts and added a
>>>>>> series/parallel switch for 9V/18V. I also elected to have an on off
>>>>>> for every pickup output as opposed to a 5-way switch. It gives me
>>>>>> three extra positions: all on / all off / 1 & 3 only. The 1 and 3
>>>>>> only position with the RPC up full makes for some great pedal steel
>>>>>> tones if you can vol-pedal and whammy emulate pedal steel vibrato.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:4943f487$1@linux...
>>>>>>> Mark, I've got SAs in my custom mid-80's "strat" too (my guitar tech
>>>>>>> calls it my "pointy guitar" 'cause of that 80's headstock), and I
>>>>>>> still love 'em. On the strat I installed a mid boost circuit replacing
>>>>>>> the 3rd pot (I found a tone control on the bridge pickup oxymoronic
>>>>>>> anyway). This circuit gives a little more balls for crunch and
>>>>>>> sometimes a little extra body for playing jazz or fusion (which I try
>>>>>>> to avoid with this guitar). Anyway, I do agree EMGs are sweet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One thing I was not aware of until reading the diagram for this
>>>>>>> install (which was a bitch in a semi-hollow, BTW) is that they
>>>>>>> recommend adjusting their PUPs as close to the string as possible for
>>>>>>> maximum tone. They state that the mag field is so weak there is no
>>>>>>> danger of string pull.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> EYE----LLLLLLOOOOOVVVVVVEEEEEE EMG's. There are only a few passives
>>>>>>>> that I wish for and I do have them (the Bill Lawrence L500 being 3 of
>>>>>>>> them). I've got a set of original SA's in a strat I built 22 years
>>>>>>>> ago. Rod Lincoln will probably remember seeing this guitar as I had
>>>>>>>> just finished it when he and I did a little touring together. I
>>>>>>>> haven't touched the guitar since the day I put it together. These
>>>>>>>> SA's have seen action every day with rare exception for 22 years and
>>>>>>>> they still blow me and everybody else away.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> W. Mark Wilson
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:493fe8f0$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>> A few months ago I posted asking my friends to talk me out of adding
>>>>>>>>> a single coil pickup to my Ibanez Artist semi-hollow electric
>>>>>>>>> (335-style). I withdrew from that path of no return and installed
>>>>>>>>> EMG 89s. They are a humbucker case with both a complete humbucker
>>>>>>>>> and a complete single coil inside, side by side.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> While I lost the predomoinance of gritty high mids that worked for
>>>>>>>>> some sounds, but were a problem with others (and which I can get
>>>>>>>>> back easily with tone controls), I have gained a lot of new sounds
>>>>>>>>> which are hugely advantageous and make the guitar a true Gigmaster.
>>>>>>>>> I can use it for jazz, rock and spanking R&B and everything in
>>>>>>>>> between.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It does not sound like a Strat, mind you; it doesn't have the je ne
>>>>>>>>> sais quoi - dare I call it "deadness" - of a real Strat but it does
>>>>>>>>> give sweet single coil sounds that fit really well in music on which
>>>>>>>>> I would normally use my strat. An interesting unexpected benefit is
>>>>>>>>> how I love the single coil neck position for straight ahead jazz
>>>>>>>>> tone.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Check 'em out!
>>Hi Aaron,
Sorry to post here but I lost your email address.
Don N. has kindly agreed to hook me up with a BT DVD, and reminded me that
you were the force behind the original creation and that some sort of
royalty payment might be appropriate - do you accept PayPal ?
Best Regards,
Stewart
Sound Dog Recording Studio
Sydney, Australia.My condolences for you loss. I have made this excellent photo my new desktop
scene.
lo siento mucho...
El Miguel
"KerryGalloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:4925b089@linux...
> Yesterday, after fifteen golden years, our little pup Silence went
> peacefully off to that great endless beach where love is always a short
> romp away and the perfect throwing stick is always at hand.
>
------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------
------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------
>
>
> Regards,
> Kerry, Annette and Jack.With Mike's new drivers and EDS plugins there can't be any "ain't more" for
Paris. It's like being in love with an old car and getting it styled up for
more better driving. ;-)
"John" <no@no.com> skrev i melding news:494d7964$1@linux...
>
> ok, you got me. there could be a new version any day. :-)the story of my life
On 21 Dec 2008 09:57:13 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>not zevon, the link goes to jimi hendrix and yep, you're too late, i've already
>done a couple album mixes. just having fun.
>
>Johnthought i'd check it again but no jimi or warren. it must have
updated before i went there.
On 21 Dec 2008 09:57:13 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>not zevon, the link goes to jimi hendrix and yep, you're too late, i've already
>done a couple album mixes. just having fun.
>
>John1967 Are You Experienced? [US] Buy Now! MCA
Purple Haze, Manic Depression, Wind Cries Mary, Foxey Lady
1967 Axis: Bold as Love Buy Now! MCA
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Manic Depression, Red House, May This Be Love, Are You Experienced?
1968 Electric Ladyland Buy Now! MCA
Crosstown Traffic, Rainy Day, Dream Away, All Along the Watchtower, Voodoo
Child (Slight Return)
1968 Electric Hendrix [Withdrawn] Track Record
no cover
1968 Electric Ladyland Pt. 1 Track Record
no cover
1970 Band of Gypsys [live] Buy Now! Capitol
Who Knows, Machine Gun
1970 Early Jimi Hendrix, Vol. 2 [live] EMI
no cover
DIED !!!!!!!!! But still going !!!!
1971 Experience [Original Soundtrack] Buy Now! Charly
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Now! Timeless Treasures
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Red House
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Sun)
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Stone Free, I Don't Live Today, Foxey Lady
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Sunshine of Your Love, Room Full of Mirrors, Red House
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Records [UK]
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[UK]
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Crosstown Traffic [live]
The Last Experience: His Final Live Performance [Teichiku] TeichikuI'm still not through with this one -tweak tweak.
http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6792129
Those awesome drums licks and tones are courtesy of Mr. Lincoln. I've been
working a lot in Reaper these days (which is a fab crossover from Paris),
but Rod tracked and mixed the drums in Paris. I would most definately appreciate
any and all feedback from the fine ears on this NG. MRQuite typically power rails for op amps run 18 and 24 volt rails to operate.
Most of the circuits I've built for myself in the past use + and - rails at
a minimum of 9v each (IE, 18 volts) to have proper headroom. This is not a
shock what Mark is saying, I'm just a little surprised that EMG is using
standard parts/op amps in a space saving design. I gotta try this some time,
but it totally makes sense to me. To give you guys an idea, in the 80's I
used to tinker inside an old Peavey XR800 console using it as a test bed of
sorts for learning and my earlier designs. 4558 dual op amps all over the
place. Hartley Peavey used + and - rails on the design, at 15 volts each
(IE, 30 volt total) to feed. You want optimally to feed an operational
amplifier as much as it can take w/o overloading for max results in CMRR,
noise, and dynamic capabilities. Most of them run +-12 or +-15vdc, or at
least used to. I haven't designed in probably 10 years.
For those of you really interested, you can add a resistance network to your
9v and up the voltage, but it'll blow through batteries a lot faster.
AA
"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C572CBB8.C10B%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> Huh. That's Rick Turner's thing too - he runs his piezo systems at 18v
> because he says transients can take the full 9v and then some. Seems this
> confirms that.
>
> - K
>
> On 12/20/08 11:14 AM, in article 494d47d1$1@linux, "Bill L"
> <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>
>> It makes sense. The local Sam Ash tech who is pretty smart, suggested I
>> be careful to keep the batteries up to 9 volts and use a meter to make
>> sure of it. You mention below that you use a series parallel switch. Is
>> that so you can use one battery if you need to? Could you 'splain me how
>> that's wired?
>>
>> Damn, I love this N/G. We got some smart and talented folks here in
>> Casablanca.
>>
>> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>> This information came straight from Overlend Corp techs (who at that
>>> time
>>> was EMG).
>>>
>>> WMW
>>>
>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>> news:494ae51f$1@linux...
>>>> Interesting.
>>>>
>>>> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>>> By thrash, I mean, dynamic range. On a 9V supply (the minumum op
>>>>> voltage) they tend to output a narrower dynamic range (eg,
>>>>> compressoion).
>>>>> On 18V, the range opens.
>>>>>
>>>>> WMW
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4948f883$1@linux...
>>>>>> What do you mean "thrash"? Is that more clean gain? I do like the
>>>>>> idea
>>>>>> of the 3 individual switches.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually I am running into a small problem with the 89s that they
>>>>>> overdrive the compressor in the Tonelab. Even at the lowest setting,
>>>>>> there is too much click on the attack. I'm finding I get the best
>>>>>> tone
>>>>>> with the volume knobs down to 3 or 4, which bugs me because all my
>>>>>> life
>>>>>> I have just put vols at 10. I guess I can learn some new tricks if I
>>>>>> have to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> I have that same pot on mine Bill... "RPC" as I recall (sooooo long
>>>>>>> ago now) and it does throw a rise on output that really drives any
>>>>>>> amp
>>>>>>> nicely, clean or dirty. Here's a tip on those SA's.... run them
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> 9V and they remain kinda compressed sounding. Put them on 18V and
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> thrash nicely. I simply cut my strat for 2 9V batts and added a
>>>>>>> series/parallel switch for 9V/18V. I also elected to have an on off
>>>>>>> for every pickup output as opposed to a 5-way switch. It gives me
>>>>>>> three extra positions: all on / all off / 1 & 3 only. The 1 and 3
>>>>>>> only position with the RPC up full makes for some great pedal steel
>>>>>>> tones if you can vol-pedal and whammy emulate pedal steel vibrato.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:4943f487$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> Mark, I've got SAs in my custom mid-80's "strat" too (my guitar
>>>>>>>> tech
>>>>>>>> calls it my "pointy guitar" 'cause of that 80's headstock), and I
>>>>>>>> still love 'em. On the strat I installed a mid boost circuit
>>>>>>>> replacing
>>>>>>>> the 3rd pot (I found a tone control on the bridge pickup oxymoronic
>>>>>>>> anyway). This circuit gives a little more balls for crunch and
>>>>>>>> sometimes a little extra body for playing jazz or fusion (which I
>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>> to avoid with this guitar). Anyway, I do agree EMGs are sweet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One thing I was not aware of until reading the diagram for this
>>>>>>>> install (which was a bitch in a semi-hollow, BTW) is that they
>>>>>>>> recommend adjusting their PUPs as close to the string as possible
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> maximum tone. They state that the mag field is so weak there is no
>>>>>>>> danger of string pull.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> EYE----LLLLLLOOOOOVVVVVVEEEEEE EMG's. There are only a few
>>>>>>>>> passives
>>>>>>>>> that I wish for and I do have them (the Bill Lawrence L500 being 3
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> them). I've got a set of original SA's in a strat I built 22
>>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>>> ago. Rod Lincoln will probably remember seeing this guitar as I
>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>> just finished it when he and I did a little touring together. I
>>>>>>>>> haven't touched the guitar since the day I put it together. These
>>>>>>>>> SA's have seen action every day with rare exception for 22 years
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> they still blow me and everybody else away.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> W. Mark Wilson
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:493fe8f0$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> A few months ago I posted asking my friends to talk me out of
>>>>>>>>>> adding
>>>>>>>>>> a single coil pickup to my Ibanez Artist semi-hollow electric
>>>>>>>>>> (335-style). I withdrew from that path of no return and installed
>>>>>>>>>> EMG 89s. They are a humbucker case with both a complete humbucker
>>>>>>>>>> and a complete single coil inside, side by side.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> While I lost the predomoinance of gritty high mids that worked
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> some sounds, but were a problem with others (and which I can get
>>>>>>>>>> back easily with tone controls), I have gained a lot of new
>>>>>>>>>> sounds
>>>>>>>>>> which are hugely advantageous and make the guitar a true
>>>>>>>>>> Gigmaster.
>>>>>>>>>> I can use it for jazz, rock and spanking R&B and everything in
>>>>>>>>>> between.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It does not sound like a Strat, mind you; it doesn't have the je
>>>>>>>>>> ne
>>>>>>>>>> sais quoi - dare I call it "deadness" - of a real Strat but it
>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>> give sweet single coil sounds that fit really well in music on
>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> I would normally use my strat. An interesting unexpected benefit
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> how I love the single coil neck position for straight ahead jazz
>>>>>>>>>> tone.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Check 'em out!
>>>
>Only accepting thanks at this point, I've declared the work public freeware
to anyone wanting it. Enjoy the show bro.
AA
"Stewart" <sound_doggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:494d928b$1@linux...
> Hi Aaron,
>
> Sorry to post here but I lost your email address.
>
> Don N. has kindly agreed to hook me up with a BT DVD, and reminded me that
> you were the force behind the original creation and that some sort of
> royalty payment might be appropriate - do you accept PayPal ?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Stewart
>
> Sound Dog Recording Studio
> Sydney, Australia.
>
>beautiful song. everything is a bit too bright for me, especially vocal,
snare and hi hat. push vocal up at the beginning about 1 or 2 db, later
the level is fine.
add some verb to the cross-stick and during the cross-stick section bring
the kick up a bit more then back down subtely.
bring up the kick and bass a little, i'm getting tons of highs and very little
bottom and there is a great groove here that the bass is laying down so let's
hear it.
turn all the highs way down and then turn each one up till it just peeks
over the top of the others. It builds nicely in energy giving the impression
of the song taking you somewhere. Bravo.
I can even imagine a fender rhodes layers on top of some of those guitar
chords too adding even more richness.
thanks for sharing, very very nice song makes me want to travel big time
and you know THIS IS THE WHOLE POINT of music. To communicate a feeling,
story, place, event to me. And you have done a great job. SUCCESS !
I always say Stevie Wonder could sing the phone book into an answering machine
and it would sell because he delivers the performance. nicely done. lots
of great energy here
JohnNice work, the tracks are solid man, as is the playing. The mix feels
disjointed, like the musicians aren't in the same room though. I'd assume
you have access to each drum track? You might wet those up a little,
especially the snare and put a pre delay on the verb of about 40-50mSecs to
give it a larger feel. Pull back the click of the kick beater a touch, and
see if you can change the fundamental lower freq on the kick, and back off a
little on the 'gated' feel if it has more ring... it just feels a bit
subdued to me. If not you might try to add a very short low pass verb to it.
AA
"Mike R" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:494e4f63@linux...
>
> I'm still not through with this one -tweak tweak.
> http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6792129
>
> Those awesome drums licks and tones are courtesy of Mr. Lincoln. I've
> been
> working a lot in Reaper these days (which is a fab crossover from Paris),
> but Rod tracked and mixed the drums in Paris. I would most definately
> appreciate
> any and all feedback from the fine ears on this NG. MRHi Mike,
I agree with both Aaron and John. Great tune and performance. The mix
currently encourages me to continue listening. This is a good thing.
Stereo image is good but the mix gets a bit harsh at points and I feel it
doesn't need to be. It's primarily the lead vocal that gets in my face in a
few instances where I would prefer to just lay back and enjoy the vibe
you've got going on. The lead vox lacks a richness that I prefer, but it is
quite in line with music I hear on the radio these days.
Mix depth. Maybe a keyboard pad (oohs or a floating, wispy, ghostly,
whirling pad, you can experiment to find something that you may like) that
pulls the listener into and around the room with the musicians to give the
mix depth (barely noticeable, more of an ambience).
Nice job.
Wayne
"Mike R" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:494e4f63@linux...
>
> I'm still not through with this one -tweak tweak.
> http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6792129
>
> Those awesome drums licks and tones are courtesy of Mr. Lincoln. I've
> been
> working a lot in Reaper these days (which is a fab crossover from Paris),
> but Rod tracked and mixed the drums in Paris. I would most definately
> appreciate
> any and all feedback from the fine ears on this NG. MRThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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/It makes sense. The local Sam Ash tech who is pretty smart, suggested I
be careful to keep the batteries up to 9 volts and use a meter to make
sure of it. You mention below that you use a series parallel switch. Is
that so you can use one battery if you need to? Could you 'splain me how
that's wired?
Damn, I love this N/G. We got some smart and talented folks here in
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parallel switch. Is that so you can use one battery if you need to?
Could you 'splain me how that's wired?
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Damn, I love this N/G. We got some smart and talented folks here in
Casablanca.
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"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:494e598c@linux...
> Only accepting thanks at this point, I've declared the work public
> freeware to anyone wanting it. Enjoy the show bro.
>
> AA
>
>
> "Stewart" <sound_doggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:494d928b$1@linux...
>> Hi Aaron,
>>
>> Sorry to post here but I lost your email address.
>>
>> Don N. has kindly agreed to hook me up with a BT DVD, and reminded me
>> that you were the force behind the original creation and that some sort
>> of royalty payment might be appropriate - do you accept PayPal ?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Stewart
>>
>> Sound Dog Recording Studio
>> Sydney, Australia.
>>
>>
>
>Awesome! Thanks Dave! You're a fount of knowledge.
Dave(EK Sound) wrote:
> Here you go...
>
> David.
>
> /It makes sense. The local Sam Ash tech who is pretty smart, suggested I
> be careful to keep the batteries up to 9 volts and use a meter to make
> sure of it. You mention below that you use a series parallel switch. Is
> that so you can use one battery if you need to? Could you 'splain me how
> that's wired?
>
> Damn, I love this N/G. We got some smart and talented folks here in
> Casablanca.
>
> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
> This information came straight from Overlend Corp techs (who at that
> time was EMG).
>
> WMW /
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>Hmm
Great song Mike.
I'm sorry John, but I think that I have to disagree with (almost) everything
you said here except for the lack of bottom end...needs the bass bought up,
to make the song feel a little rounder..
The highs are nice, leave them the way they are, and the sticks definitely
don't need reverb, it would just cloud the mix.
As to
... turn all the highs way down and then turn each one up till it just peeks
> over the top of the others
Well, have you ever really tried that...there is nowhere to stop...
Well done..
Martin H
Lend An Ear Sound
On 22/12/08 2:59 AM, in article 494e59b5$1@linux, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
> beautiful song. everything is a bit too bright for me, especially vocal,
> snare and hi hat. push vocal up at the beginning about 1 or 2 db, later
> the level is fine.
>
> add some verb to the cross-stick and during the cross-stick section bring
> the kick up a bit more then back down subtely.
> bring up the kick and bass a little, i'm getting tons of highs and very little
> bottom and there is a great groove here that the bass is laying down so let's
> hear it.
>
> turn all the highs way down and then turn each one up till it just peeks
> over the top of the others. It builds nicely in energy giving the impression
> of the song taking you somewhere. Bravo.
>
> I can even imagine a fender rhodes layers on top of some of those guitar
> chords too adding even more richness.
>
> thanks for sharing, very very nice song makes me want to travel big time
> and you know THIS IS THE WHOLE POINT of music. To communicate a feeling,
> story, place, event to me. And you have done a great job. SUCCESS !
>
> I always say Stevie Wonder could sing the phone book into an answering machine
> and it would sell because he delivers the performance. nicely done. lots
> of great energy here
>
> JohnMike Audet has come to the rescue and made my quad core run
very well with internal clock and two Mecs. Later tonight I will
try the Lucid one more time and add a 442 into the mix.
I will report as soon as I know. Mikes newest PSCL ver1.01 and
Scherzo drivers are a must to make this setup work. No other
work arounds are needed anymore.
Tom
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:494d8bf3$1@linux...
> Hi Rod,
>
> Ya, UseHouseSync=1 still no go. Tom's Hardware fix
> for the C-16, int affinity tool too.
>
> I'm having trouble seeing all the mecs and the one 442.
> They show in the master position only. Even with
> internal sync. I've tried wc cables in series (used to work for me)
> and parallel.
> Mecs attached to first card-last card, first card-second card.
> Nothing, just the master mec. Swapped cables, eds cards
> mecs and every thing works except extra mecs.
>
> I am trying Mikes drivers tonight.
>
> This is the same thing that was happening when I started
> smoking mecs with a bad scsi2 cable. That was /is reason enough
> for me to drop Paris.
>
> I'll get it going one way or another.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:494d7dd2$1@linux...
>>
>> Did you remember to add "Usehousesync" to the config file?
>> Rod
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>External clock brings no joy. I will report back after
>>>Mike's drivers are implemented.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:4947f4ab$1@linux...
>>>> Okay, Chris L and Mikes technique got the quad core
>>>> working with Paris and C-16s. This is not using Mike's new drivers
>>>> yet.
>>>> Went all night in loop mode with the C-16s showing up after 12 hours.
>>>>
>>>> You may have noticed the Macro Express thread. I can't tell you
>>>> how much time that program saves me while working with Paris.
>>>> If you're not using it you should be. I developed the macros to
>>>> work on my rig. Not sure everyone else's will work perfectly.
>>>>
>>>> Today I plan to get external word clock, three mecs and a 442 working.
>>>> Once that's stable I will install the Creamware Pro card then Cubase 4.
>>>> Backing up before each new step of course!
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:C564AE41.C04C%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>>>> WoooHOO! Watching this with great interest.
>>>>>
>>>>> - K
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/9/08 11:18 PM, in article 493f713c@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ran a little audio for the first time. CPU was at
>>>>>> 0-3% throughout.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll start loading in some plugins and see what happens.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>That's what I love about this group. We can agree to disagree. It's art
and if you like verb on cross-stick that's cool, if not that's cool. I love
the cross-stick reverb on Shania's "Leaving Is the Only Way Out", so it's
just a vibe I like.
Regarding dropping all the highs and getting each to just peak out above
the mix, I do it all the time and like it. For example, if I find that everything
is too bright, that's an easy way to figure out what you want your top end
to be made up of. It could be the bass guitar even that has a nice open
top, or hi hat, shaker, chorusy guitar, vocal, etc. Whatever works for
you then I'm all for it.
JohnOh, also, I only meant to add verb to the cross-stick during the breakdowns,
otherwise, pull it back verbwise. I agree that it would cloud the mix.Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated drivers, per chance?
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:494ed5a4@linux...
> Mike Audet has come to the rescue and made my quad core run
> very well with internal clock and two Mecs. Later tonight I will
> try the Lucid one more time and add a 442 into the mix.
>
> I will report as soon as I know. Mikes newest PSCL ver1.01 and
> Scherzo drivers are a must to make this setup work. No other
> work arounds are needed anymore.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:494d8bf3$1@linux...
>> Hi Rod,
>>
>> Ya, UseHouseSync=1 still no go. Tom's Hardware fix
>> for the C-16, int affinity tool too.
>>
>> I'm having trouble seeing all the mecs and the one 442.
>> They show in the master position only. Even with
>> internal sync. I've tried wc cables in series (used to work for me)
>> and parallel.
>> Mecs attached to first card-last card, first card-second card.
>> Nothing, just the master mec. Swapped cables, eds cards
>> mecs and every thing works except extra mecs.
>>
>> I am trying Mikes drivers tonight.
>>
>> This is the same thing that was happening when I started
>> smoking mecs with a bad scsi2 cable. That was /is reason enough
>> for me to drop Paris.
>>
>> I'll get it going one way or another.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:494d7dd2$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Did you remember to add "Usehousesync" to the config file?
>>> Rod
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>External clock brings no joy. I will report back after
>>>>Mike's drivers are implemented.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:4947f4ab$1@linux...
>>>>> Okay, Chris L and Mikes technique got the quad core
>>>>> working with Paris and C-16s. This is not using Mike's new drivers
>>>>> yet.
>>>>> Went all night in loop mode with the C-16s showing up after 12 hours.
>>>>>
>>>>> You may have noticed the Macro Express thread. I can't tell you
>>>>> how much time that program saves me while working with Paris.
>>>>> If you're not using it you should be. I developed the macros to
>>>>> work on my rig. Not sure everyone else's will work perfectly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today I plan to get external word clock, three mecs and a 442 working.
>>>>> Once that's stable I will install the Creamware Pro card then Cubase
>>>>> 4.
>>>>> Backing up before each new step of course!
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:C564AE41.C04C%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>>>>> WoooHOO! Watching this with great interest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - K
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/9/08 11:18 PM, in article 493f713c@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>>>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ran a little audio for the first time. CPU was at
>>>>>>> 0-3% throughout.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll start loading in some plugins and see what happens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Well, I'm not opposed but I think Kerry was working on a project with it so
I'm content to leave it in his capable hands. I'm sure we'll see it happen,
I know it's on his list.
AA
"lance" <lance.rocks@verizon.net> wrote in message news:494e9577@linux...
> just a suggestion.. why not put it up on youtube?
>
>
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:494e598c@linux...
>> Only accepting thanks at this point, I've declared the work public
>> freeware to anyone wanting it. Enjoy the show bro.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Stewart" <sound_doggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:494d928b$1@linux...
>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>
>>> Sorry to post here but I lost your email address.
>>>
>>> Don N. has kindly agreed to hook me up with a BT DVD, and reminded me
>>> that you were the force behind the original creation and that some sort
>>> of royalty payment might be appropriate - do you accept PayPal ?
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Stewart
>>>
>>> Sound Dog Recording Studio
>>> Sydney, Australia.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Forgot to add... if anyone is interested in my latest video project
release.....
higher res... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aESvFl6P3Yk
normal res.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCvbD-yzQKY
AA
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:494f24c1@linux...
> Well, I'm not opposed but I think Kerry was working on a project with it
> so I'm content to leave it in his capable hands. I'm sure we'll see it
> happen, I know it's on his list.
>
> AA
>
> "lance" <lance.rocks@verizon.net> wrote in message news:494e9577@linux...
>> just a suggestion.. why not put it up on youtube?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:494e598c@linux...
>>> Only accepting thanks at this point, I've declared the work public
>>> freeware to anyone wanting it. Enjoy the show bro.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Stewart" <sound_doggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:494d928b$1@linux...
>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to post here but I lost your email address.
>>>>
>>>> Don N. has kindly agreed to hook me up with a BT DVD, and reminded me
>>>> that you were the force behind the original creation and that some sort
>>>> of royalty payment might be appropriate - do you accept PayPal ?
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Stewart
>>>>
>>>> Sound Dog Recording Studio
>>>> Sydney, Australia.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>I haven't D/L'd it, but wanted to suggest that you can add window
repositioning to any macro, and that will guarantee the "mouse click"
command will execute on the correct button.
Simply resize and reposition the window at the start of every macro that is
position-dependent, activate the newly-repositioned window and make sure
that your clicks are related to the active window.
Once you run the macro, it moves the window and executes the command without
regard for where the window was positioned.
All pretty easy to do.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49475e27$1@linux...
> Sorry I should have labeled it with attachment.
> It is 672 kb. I use Macro Express 3.4.
>
> This macro stems from Brian Tankersley's original.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49475ce7@linux...
>> If you are this will potentially help your paris experience.
>> Use this Macro and enjoy.
>>
>> It will work with any CPU. I labeled it quad core so I
>> know what computer it was designed for.
>>
>> Here is some info if it helps anyone:
>>
>> This is the Macro that works. Save from this
>> email attachment to a CDR or USB stick and dump
>> into your Paris computer. It can reside anywhere.
>> I like to put it in Programs/MacroExpress/Macros.
>> You may have to make the folder Macros.
>>
>> Once it's in there just go to Macro Express. It should
>> be running at startup. Go to File then Open Macro File.
>> I want you to direct it to Programs/MacroExpress/Macros/
>> 12_16_08 Paris Quad Core.mex .
>>
>> This should make it work perfectly except for a few gotchyas.
>>
>> 1) Make sure your Paris Project folder is in the uppermost
>> left hand corner. It may need to move the smallest amount
>> for all F keys to do their job. Once it's in the correct
>> location this is what the keys will do:
>>
>> F1 Submix 1 Editor Mixer
>> F2 Submix 2 Editor Mixer
>> F3 Submix 3 Editor Mixer
>> F4 Submix 4 Editor Mixer
>> F5 Submix 1 Automation Mixer
>> F6 Submix 2 Automation Mixer
>> F7 Submix 3 Automation Mixer
>> F8 Submix 4 Automation Mixer
>> F9 Submix 5 Editor Mixer
>> F10 Submix 5 Automation Mixer
>> F11 All Utility Windows Open
>> F12 All Utility Windows Close
>> Shift/F12 All Channel Inserts Bypass or Engage
>>
>> Your mixers, automation mixers and editors can be
>> wherever you want. That will only matter when
>> dealing with this:
>>
>> 2) Holding Shift while clicking F12 is tricky.
>> It depends on your mixers inserts to be at the
>> top of the far right screen. For me it's monitor
>> #2. For you it may be different. You must have all
>> 16 channels showing (turn off Show Master in Mixer,
>> hide all your aux busses by dragging right vertical line between
>> channels and auxes to cover auxes and pull left most vertical
>> line left to open up all 16 channels so only channel strips show
>> and fill your far right monitor left to right. This is
>> a standard setting for some and can be accomplished (memorized)
>> using Paris Views if not by hand.
>>
>> If this is done correctly all channels will be bypassed/engaged within
>> a couple of seconds. It will only be important to you if you are
>> using
>> Faderworks and you want to continue laying overdubs without latency.
>> All effects with substantial latency will make recording overdubs
>> difficult.
>> A quick Shift/F12 will make it work in 2 seconds. Once the track is
>> recorded
>> another Shift/F12 will make you mix sound like it did before with all
>> effects engaged again. Slick.
>>
>> 3) I'm confident (like that?) your Utilities will also be difficult if
>> not impossible
>> to use. They may open with F11 but will never close with F12. This
>> is a macro
>> that depends on the exact location of the Patchbay (full size filling
>> left most monitor)
>> Big Transport, Audio and Markers windows on the far right monitor for
>> the mouse to know
>> where to go to close them. I'd suggest just continue using key
>> commands as you do now.
>> That's what I do too more often than not.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>
>It hasn't been forgotten, the video's definitely going to enjoy a prime
place on the Wiki (assuming BT's cool with it - I'll need to get a current
email address for him). TC has a copy for me - I just haven't managed to
link up with him to get my hands on it yet. But shortly, I hope!
- K
On 12/21/08 9:09 PM, in article 494f24c1@linux, "Aaron Allen"
<know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> Well, I'm not opposed but I think Kerry was working on a project with it so
> I'm content to leave it in his capable hands. I'm sure we'll see it happen,
> I know it's on his list.
>
> AAHmmm, I'm with you Martin on everything here(maybe our old ears need more
high brilliance???), as near as the sticks, that seems to play in another,
smaller room. I believe Aaron too mentioned this earlier.
Really great song Mike and mr. Rod Lincoln have done a great job too. It is
all about taste but I believe, if you can get the separate tracks of the
drums and mix it as it seems to play more in the same room as the other
instruments, I think you'll nail it all for my taste too:-)
Erling
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> skrev i melding
news:C57519DF.232A%lendan@bigpond.net.au...
> Hmm
>
> Great song Mike.
> I'm sorry John, but I think that I have to disagree with (almost)
> everything
> you said here except for the lack of bottom end...needs the bass bought
> up,
> to make the song feel a little rounder..
> The highs are nice, leave them the way they are, and the sticks definitely
> don't need reverb, it would just cloud the mix.
> As to
> .. turn all the highs way down and then turn each one up till it just
> peeks
>> over the top of the others
> Well, have you ever really tried that...there is nowhere to stop...
> Well done..
>
> Martin H
> Lend An Ear Sound
>
> On 22/12/08 2:59 AM, in article 494e59b5$1@linux, "John" <no@no.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> beautiful song. everything is a bit too bright for me, especially
>> vocal,
>> snare and hi hat. push vocal up at the beginning about 1 or 2 db, later
>> the level is fine.
>>
>> add some verb to the cross-stick and during the cross-stick section bring
>> the kick up a bit more then back down subtely.
>> bring up the kick and bass a little, i'm getting tons of highs and very
>> little
>> bottom and there is a great groove here that the bass is laying down so
>> let's
>> hear it.
>>
>> turn all the highs way down and then turn each one up till it just peeks
>> over the top of the others. It builds nicely in energy giving the
>> impression
>> of the song taking you somewhere. Bravo.
>>
>> I can even imagine a fender rhodes layers on top of some of those guitar
>> chords too adding even more richness.
>>
>> thanks for sharing, very very nice song makes me want to travel big time
>> and you know THIS IS THE WHOLE POINT of music. To communicate a feeling,
>> story, place, event to me. And you have done a great job. SUCCESS !
>>
>> I always say Stevie Wonder could sing the phone book into an answering
>> machine
>> and it would sell because he delivers the performance. nicely done. lots
>> of great energy here
>>
>> John
>
>
>I think EMG prolly doesn't push the 2-batt thing because most guits aren't
gonna be prep'd for two or have room for two even if prep'd for one battery.
And they still work and sound good on 9V. Keep in mind and consider that
even at 9V supply, even a single coil S or SA will output 3v pk to pk. I
have mine setup to feed all 3 coils at once... voooom baby... lotsa meaty
whumpass and the voltage to prove it. That's relatively freakin amazing
consider how quiet they stay (single coils are notoriously noisy) even under
dimmers and in front of CRT's.
Give a try Bill.... that 89 will kick ass on 9V and reak gorgeous havoc on
18V. Please note however, you wanna be careful about plugging in your
guitar last when you cable's output end is already feeding something because
there will be a moment during guitar plugin that your receiving devide will
see that 18v and the device may not hold up too many times under that
transient.
WMW
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:494e5922$1@linux...
> Quite typically power rails for op amps run 18 and 24 volt rails to
> operate. Most of the circuits I've built for myself in the past use +
> and - rails at a minimum of 9v each (IE, 18 volts) to have proper
> headroom. This is not a shock what Mark is saying, I'm just a little
> surprised that EMG is using standard parts/op amps in a space saving
> design. I gotta try this some time, but it totally makes sense to me. To
> give you guys an idea, in the 80's I used to tinker inside an old Peavey
> XR800 console using it as a test bed of sorts for learning and my earlier
> designs. 4558 dual op amps all over the place. Hartley Peavey used + and -
> rails on the design, at 15 volts each (IE, 30 volt total) to feed. You
> want optimally to feed an operational amplifier as much as it can take w/o
> overloading for max results in CMRR, noise, and dynamic capabilities. Most
> of them run +-12 or +-15vdc, or at least used to. I haven't designed in
> probably 10 years.
> For those of you really interested, you can add a resistance network to
> your 9v and up the voltage, but it'll blow through batteries a lot faster.
>
> AA
>
>
> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
> news:C572CBB8.C10B%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> Huh. That's Rick Turner's thing too - he runs his piezo systems at 18v
>> because he says transients can take the full 9v and then some. Seems this
>> confirms that.
>>
>> - K
>>
>> On 12/20/08 11:14 AM, in article 494d47d1$1@linux, "Bill L"
>> <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It makes sense. The local Sam Ash tech who is pretty smart, suggested I
>>> be careful to keep the batteries up to 9 volts and use a meter to make
>>> sure of it. You mention below that you use a series parallel switch. Is
>>> that so you can use one battery if you need to? Could you 'splain me how
>>> that's wired?
>>>
>>> Damn, I love this N/G. We got some smart and talented folks here in
>>> Casablanca.
>>>
>>> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>> This information came straight from Overlend Corp techs (who at that
>>>> time
>>>> was EMG).
>>>>
>>>> WMW
>>>>
>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:494ae51f$1@linux...
>>>>> Interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>>>> By thrash, I mean, dynamic range. On a 9V supply (the minumum op
>>>>>> voltage) they tend to output a narrower dynamic range (eg,
>>>>>> compressoion).
>>>>>> On 18V, the range opens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WMW
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:4948f883$1@linux...
>>>>>>> What do you mean "thrash"? Is that more clean gain? I do like the
>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>> of the 3 individual switches.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually I am running into a small problem with the 89s that they
>>>>>>> overdrive the compressor in the Tonelab. Even at the lowest setting,
>>>>>>> there is too much click on the attack. I'm finding I get the best
>>>>>>> tone
>>>>>>> with the volume knobs down to 3 or 4, which bugs me because all my
>>>>>>> life
>>>>>>> I have just put vols at 10. I guess I can learn some new tricks if I
>>>>>>> have to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have that same pot on mine Bill... "RPC" as I recall (sooooo
>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>> ago now) and it does throw a rise on output that really drives any
>>>>>>>> amp
>>>>>>>> nicely, clean or dirty. Here's a tip on those SA's.... run them
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> 9V and they remain kinda compressed sounding. Put them on 18V and
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> thrash nicely. I simply cut my strat for 2 9V batts and added a
>>>>>>>> series/parallel switch for 9V/18V. I also elected to have an on
>>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>>> for every pickup output as opposed to a 5-way switch. It gives me
>>>>>>>> three extra positions: all on / all off / 1 & 3 only. The 1 and 3
>>>>>>>> only position with the RPC up full makes for some great pedal steel
>>>>>>>> tones if you can vol-pedal and whammy emulate pedal steel vibrato.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:4943f487$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>> Mark, I've got SAs in my custom mid-80's "strat" too (my guitar
>>>>>>>>> tech
>>>>>>>>> calls it my "pointy guitar" 'cause of that 80's headstock), and I
>>>>>>>>> still love 'em. On the strat I installed a mid boost circuit
>>>>>>>>> replacing
>>>>>>>>> the 3rd pot (I found a tone control on the bridge pickup
>>>>>>>>> oxymoronic
>>>>>>>>> anyway). This circuit gives a little more balls for crunch and
>>>>>>>>> sometimes a little extra body for playing jazz or fusion (which I
>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>> to avoid with this guitar). Anyway, I do agree EMGs are sweet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One thing I was not aware of until reading the diagram for this
>>>>>>>>> install (which was a bitch in a semi-hollow, BTW) is that they
>>>>>>>>> recommend adjusting their PUPs as close to the string as possible
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> maximum tone. They state that the mag field is so weak there is no
>>>>>>>>> danger of string pull.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> EYE----LLLLLLOOOOOVVVVVVEEEEEE EMG's. There are only a few
>>>>>>>>>> passives
>>>>>>>>>> that I wish for and I do have them (the Bill Lawrence L500 being
>>>>>>>>>> 3 of
>>>>>>>>>> them). I've got a set of original SA's in a strat I built 22
>>>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>>>> ago. Rod Lincoln will probably remember seeing this guitar as I
>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>> just finished it when he and I did a little touring together. I
>>>>>>>>>> haven't touched the guitar since the day I put it together.
>>>>>>>>>> These
>>>>>>>>>> SA's have seen action every day with rare exception for 22 years
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> they still blow me and everybody else away.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> W. Mark Wilson
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:493fe8f0$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> A few months ago I posted asking my friends to talk me out of
>>>>>>>>>>> adding
>>>>>>>>>>> a single coil pickup to my Ibanez Artist semi-hollow electric
>>>>>>>>>>> (335-style). I withdrew from that path of no return and
>>>>>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>>>>>> EMG 89s. They are a humbucker case with both a complete
>>>>>>>>>>> humbucker
>>>>>>>>>>> and a complete single coil inside, side by side.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> While I lost the predomoinance of gritty high mids that worked
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> some sounds, but were a problem with others (and which I can get
>>>>>>>>>>> back easily with tone controls), I have gained a lot of new
>>>>>>>>>>> sounds
>>>>>>>>>>> which are hugely advantageous and make the guitar a true
>>>>>>>>>>> Gigmaster.
>>>>>>>>>>> I can use it for jazz, rock and spanking R&B and everything in
>>>>>>>>>>> between.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It does not sound like a Strat, mind you; it doesn't have the je
>>>>>>>>>>> ne
>>>>>>>>>>> sais quoi - dare I call it "deadness" - of a real Strat but it
>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>> give sweet single coil sounds that fit really well in music on
>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>> I would normally use my strat. An interesting unexpected benefit
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> how I love the single coil neck position for straight ahead jazz
>>>>>>>>>>> tone.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Check 'em out!
>>>>
>>
>
>Aaron Allen wrote:
> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated drivers, per chance?
> AA
>
Hi Aaron,
Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying it?
If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
All the best,
MikeA new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat cards to link up my
Creamware setup to it.
AA
"Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message news:494f81fa$1@linux...
> Aaron Allen wrote:
>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated drivers, per
>> chance?
>> AA
>>
> Hi Aaron,
>
> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying it?
>
> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>
> All the best,
>
> MikeHey Sandy,
That sounds like a good option. I never resized them but just gave
them a key command along with the mouse move. I rewrite them again!
Thanks,
Tom
"Sandy Tipping" <tippsand@earthling.net> wrote in message
news:494f2e46@linux...
>I haven't D/L'd it, but wanted to suggest that you can add window
>repositioning to any macro, and that will guarantee the "mouse click"
>command will execute on the correct button.
>
> Simply resize and reposition the window at the start of every macro that
> is position-dependent, activate the newly-repositioned window and make
> sure that your clicks are related to the active window.
>
> Once you run the macro, it moves the window and executes the command
> without regard for where the window was positioned.
>
> All pretty easy to do.
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:49475e27$1@linux...
>> Sorry I should have labeled it with attachment.
>> It is 672 kb. I use Macro Express 3.4.
>>
>> This macro stems from Brian Tankersley's original.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49475ce7@linux...
>>> If you are this will potentially help your paris experience.
>>> Use this Macro and enjoy.
>>>
>>> It will work with any CPU. I labeled it quad core so I
>>> know what computer it was designed for.
>>>
>>> Here is some info if it helps anyone:
>>>
>>> This is the Macro that works. Save from this
>>> email attachment to a CDR or USB stick and dump
>>> into your Paris computer. It can reside anywhere.
>>> I like to put it in Programs/MacroExpress/Macros.
>>> You may have to make the folder Macros.
>>>
>>> Once it's in there just go to Macro Express. It should
>>> be running at startup. Go to File then Open Macro File.
>>> I want you to direct it to Programs/MacroExpress/Macros/
>>> 12_16_08 Paris Quad Core.mex .
>>>
>>> This should make it work perfectly except for a few gotchyas.
>>>
>>> 1) Make sure your Paris Project folder is in the uppermost
>>> left hand corner. It may need to move the smallest amount
>>> for all F keys to do their job. Once it's in the correct
>>> location this is what the keys will do:
>>>
>>> F1 Submix 1 Editor Mixer
>>> F2 Submix 2 Editor Mixer
>>> F3 Submix 3 Editor Mixer
>>> F4 Submix 4 Editor Mixer
>>> F5 Submix 1 Automation Mixer
>>> F6 Submix 2 Automation Mixer
>>> F7 Submix 3 Automation Mixer
>>> F8 Submix 4 Automation Mixer
>>> F9 Submix 5 Editor Mixer
>>> F10 Submix 5 Automation Mixer
>>> F11 All Utility Windows Open
>>> F12 All Utility Windows Close
>>> Shift/F12 All Channel Inserts Bypass or Engage
>>>
>>> Your mixers, automation mixers and editors can be
>>> wherever you want. That will only matter when
>>> dealing with this:
>>>
>>> 2) Holding Shift while clicking F12 is tricky.
>>> It depends on your mixers inserts to be at the
>>> top of the far right screen. For me it's monitor
>>> #2. For you it may be different. You must have all
>>> 16 channels showing (turn off Show Master in Mixer,
>>> hide all your aux busses by dragging right vertical line between
>>> channels and auxes to cover auxes and pull left most vertical
>>> line left to open up all 16 channels so only channel strips show
>>> and fill your far right monitor left to right. This is
>>> a standard setting for some and can be accomplished (memorized)
>>> using Paris Views if not by hand.
>>>
>>> If this is done correctly all channels will be bypassed/engaged
>>> within
>>> a couple of seconds. It will only be important to you if you are
>>> using
>>> Faderworks and you want to continue laying overdubs without latency.
>>> All effects with substantial latency will make recording overdubs
>>> difficult.
>>> A quick Shift/F12 will make it work in 2 seconds. Once the track is
>>> recorded
>>> another Shift/F12 will make you mix sound like it did before with all
>>> effects engaged again. Slick.
>>>
>>> 3) I'm confident (like that?) your Utilities will also be difficult if
>>> not impossible
>>> to use. They may open with F11 but will never close with F12. This
>>> is a macro
>>> that depends on the exact location of the Patchbay (full size filling
>>> left most monitor)
>>> Big Transport, Audio and Markers windows on the far right monitor for
>>> the mouse to know
>>> where to go to close them. I'd suggest just continue using key
>>> commands as you do now.
>>> That's what I do too more often than not.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for you guys.
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:494fa209@linux...
>A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat cards to link up
>my Creamware setup to it.
>
> AA
>
> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated drivers, per
>>> chance?
>>> AA
>>>
>> Hi Aaron,
>>
>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying it?
>>
>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Mike
>
>Yeah, that's what I do. Put the window at the correct position at the beginning
of the macro
rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>Hey Sandy,
>
>That sounds like a good option. I never resized them but just gave
>them a key command along with the mouse move. I rewrite them again!
>
>Thanks,
>Tom
>
>
>"Sandy Tipping" <tippsand@earthling.net> wrote in message
>news:494f2e46@linux...
>>I haven't D/L'd it, but wanted to suggest that you can add window
>>repositioning to any macro, and that will guarantee the "mouse click"
>>command will execute on the correct button.
>>
>> Simply resize and reposition the window at the start of every macro that
>> is position-dependent, activate the newly-repositioned window and make
>> sure that your clicks are related to the active window.
>>
>> Once you run the macro, it moves the window and executes the command
>> without regard for where the window was positioned.
>>
>> All pretty easy to do.
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:49475e27$1@linux...
>>> Sorry I should have labeled it with attachment.
>>> It is 672 kb. I use Macro Express 3.4.
>>>
>>> This macro stems from Brian Tankersley's original.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49475ce7@linux...
>>>> If you are this will potentially help your paris experience.
>>>> Use this Macro and enjoy.
>>>>
>>>> It will work with any CPU. I labeled it quad core so I
>>>> know what computer it was designed for.
>>>>
>>>> Here is some info if it helps anyone:
>>>>
>>>> This is the Macro that works. Save from this
>>>> email attachment to a CDR or USB stick and dump
>>>> into your Paris computer. It can reside anywhere.
>>>> I like to put it in Programs/MacroExpress/Macros.
>>>> You may have to make the folder Macros.
>>>>
>>>> Once it's in there just go to Macro Express. It should
>>>> be running at startup. Go to File then Open Macro File.
>>>> I want you to direct it to Programs/MacroExpress/Macros/
>>>> 12_16_08 Paris Quad Core.mex .
>>>>
>>>> This should make it work perfectly except for a few gotchyas.
>>>>
>>>> 1) Make sure your Paris Project folder is in the uppermost
>>>> left hand corner. It may need to move the smallest amount
>>>> for all F keys to do their job. Once it's in the correct
>>>> location this is what the keys will do:
>>>>
>>>> F1 Submix 1 Editor Mixer
>>>> F2 Submix 2 Editor Mixer
>>>> F3 Submix 3 Editor Mixer
>>>> F4 Submix 4 Editor Mixer
>>>> F5 Submix 1 Automation Mixer
>>>> F6 Submix 2 Automation Mixer
>>>> F7 Submix 3 Automation Mixer
>>>> F8 Submix 4 Automation Mixer
>>>> F9 Submix 5 Editor Mixer
>>>> F10 Submix 5 Automation Mixer
>>>> F11 All Utility Windows Open
>>>> F12 All Utility Windows Close
>>>> Shift/F12 All Channel Inserts Bypass or Engage
>>>>
>>>> Your mixers, automation mixers and editors can be
>>>> wherever you want. That will only matter when
>>>> dealing with this:
>>>>
>>>> 2) Holding Shift while clicking F12 is tricky.
>>>> It depends on your mixers inserts to be at the
>>>> top of the far right screen. For me it's monitor
>>>> #2. For you it may be different. You must have all
>>>> 16 channels showing (turn off Show Master in Mixer,
>>>> hide all your aux busses by dragging right vertical line between
>>>> channels and auxes to cover auxes and pull left most vertical
>>>> line left to open up all 16 channels so only channel strips show
>>>> and fill your far right monitor left to right. This is
>>>> a standard setting for some and can be accomplished (memorized)
>>>> using Paris Views if not by hand.
>>>>
>>>> If this is done correctly all channels will be bypassed/engaged
>>>> within
>>>> a couple of seconds. It will only be important to you if you are
>>>> using
>>>> Faderworks and you want to continue laying overdubs without latency.
>>>> All effects with substantial latency will make recording overdubs
>>>> difficult.
>>>> A quick Shift/F12 will make it work in 2 seconds. Once the track
is
>>>> recorded
>>>> another Shift/F12 will make you mix sound like it did before with
all
>>>> effects engaged again. Slick.
>>>>
>>>> 3) I'm confident (like that?) your Utilities will also be difficult
if
>>>> not impossible
>>>> to use. They may open with F11 but will never close with F12. This
>>>> is a macro
>>>> that depends on the exact location of the Patchbay (full size filling
>>>> left most monitor)
>>>> Big Transport, Audio and Markers windows on the far right monitor
for
>>>> the mouse to know
>>>> where to go to close them. I'd suggest just continue using key
>>>> commands as you do now.
>>>> That's what I do too more often than not.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Man, this is a tough room!
just kidding
Actually it's really good to have constructive criticism. I think Mike used
the stereo drum mix that I sent him for reference, which was probably a 5
or 10 minute mix. I also sent him the individual tracks.
Time to man up Mike, grab those tracks, and do some mixing!
Rod
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Nice work, the tracks are solid man, as is the playing. The mix feels
>disjointed, like the musicians aren't in the same room though. I'd assume
>you have access to each drum track? You might wet those up a little,
>especially the snare and put a pre delay on the verb of about 40-50mSecs
to
>give it a larger feel. Pull back the click of the kick beater a touch, and
>see if you can change the fundamental lower freq on the kick, and back off
a
>little on the 'gated' feel if it has more ring... it just feels a bit
>subdued to me. If not you might try to add a very short low pass verb to
it.
>
>AA
>
>"Mike R" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:494e4f63@linux...
>>
>> I'm still not through with this one -tweak tweak.
>> http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6792129
>>
>> Those awesome drums licks and tones are courtesy of Mr. Lincoln. I've
>> been
>> working a lot in Reaper these days (which is a fab crossover from Paris),
>> but Rod tracked and mixed the drums in Paris. I would most definately
>> appreciate
>> any and all feedback from the fine ears on this NG. MR
>
>Once more with feeling...
Hi All -
I just picked up our band's new CD from the plant, and wanted to share a
few tunes with you guys. Nothing's perfect, and you folks are a tough audience
(listening to content _and_ production) but what the hey?
Tracked in PARIS, mixed in Logic/Paris, summed through a Modded Neotek to
tape, Mastered with the Audio-Cube system.
Ted
Some of the tracks are here:
http://www.brilliantjoe.com/full_mp3s/
The band's website is here:
http://www.brilliantjoe.com/index.htmlTwo ADATs show up in Mec 2 in a 5 eds card -
two mec setup using a quad core. One ADAT
also was installed in Mec 1 at the time. I can't
confirm ADAT sync at this time but the gui operated
as expected in the patchbay.
I'll need to pick up a creamware sync plate for that test.
I may try the adat machine after all is well here.
Tom
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:494faffc@linux...
> I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for you guys.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:494fa209@linux...
>>A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat cards to link up
>>my Creamware setup to it.
>>
>> AA
>>
>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
>> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated drivers, per
>>>> chance?
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>
>>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying it?
>>>
>>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>>
>
>Hey Aaron, what ever happened to that thing you were doing in the kitchen?
I thought there was going to be a follow up video???
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Well, I'm not opposed but I think Kerry was working on a project with it
so
>I'm content to leave it in his capable hands. I'm sure we'll see it happen,
>I know it's on his list.
>
>AA
>
>"lance" <lance.rocks@verizon.net> wrote in message news:494e9577@linux...
>> just a suggestion.. why not put it up on youtube?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:494e598c@linux...
>>> Only accepting thanks at this point, I've declared the work public
>>> freeware to anyone wanting it. Enjoy the show bro.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Stewart" <sound_doggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:494d928b$1@linux...
>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to post here but I lost your email address.
>>>>
>>>> Don N. has kindly agreed to hook me up with a BT DVD, and reminded me
>>>> that you were the force behind the original creation and that some sort
>>>> of royalty payment might be appropriate - do you accept PayPal ?
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Stewart
>>>>
>>>> Sound Dog Recording Studio
>>>> Sydney, Australia.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>The kitchen? A cooking video?
Cool! PARIS Cuisine - it's from France!
:D
- K
On 12/22/08 11:13 AM, in article 494fd8b4$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Aaron, what ever happened to that thing you were doing in the kitchen?
> I thought there was going to be a follow up video???
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>> Well, I'm not opposed but I think Kerry was working on a project with it
> so
>> I'm content to leave it in his capable hands. I'm sure we'll see it happen,
>
>> I know it's on his list.
>>
>> AA
>>
>> "lance" <lance.rocks@verizon.net> wrote in message news:494e9577@linux...
>>> just a suggestion.. why not put it up on youtube?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>> news:494e598c@linux...
>>>> Only accepting thanks at this point, I've declared the work public
>>>> freeware to anyone wanting it. Enjoy the show bro.
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Stewart" <sound_doggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:494d928b$1@linux...
>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry to post here but I lost your email address.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don N. has kindly agreed to hook me up with a BT DVD, and reminded me
>
>>>>> that you were the force behind the original creation and that some sort
>
>>>>> of royalty payment might be appropriate - do you accept PayPal ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Stewart
>>>>>
>>>>> Sound Dog Recording Studio
>>>>> Sydney, Australia.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Ted, That's is really really nice. The tone is so analog sounding and really
round and open. nicely done !
JohnAnytime Kerry.
I just got Paris up and running over the weekend back on the Mac Pro
with Mike's drivers.. just running it through some tests but so far so
good! I'll post my configuration here shortly for general info..
Cheers,
TC
Kerry Galloway wrote:
> It hasn't been forgotten, the video's definitely going to enjoy a prime
> place on the Wiki (assuming BT's cool with it - I'll need to get a current
> email address for him). TC has a copy for me - I just haven't managed to
> link up with him to get my hands on it yet. But shortly, I hope!
>
> - K
>
>
> On 12/21/08 9:09 PM, in article 494f24c1@linux, "Aaron Allen"
> <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>> Well, I'm not opposed but I think Kerry was working on a project with it so
>> I'm content to leave it in his capable hands. I'm sure we'll see it happen,
>> I know it's on his list.
>>
>> AA
>....I'm afraid....
First off, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE all the feedback. Thank you John, Martin,
Wayne, Aaron and Erling. I've haven't been posting here alot lately, but
I knew you all would have some very helpful and detailed feedback. Most
of the other folks I've run this by aren't deep listners. Man its so solo
up there in the studio (thank god for Rod!)
Now, to this notion of mixing drum tracks. I was thinking of all the
ways I could make the some of the changes on Rod's mix -the two track. I
know its POSSIBLE to make the mix, but I don't think I could even get close
to Rod's...
Thanks again gentlemen. MR
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Man, this is a tough room!
>just kidding
>Actually it's really good to have constructive criticism. I think Mike used
>the stereo drum mix that I sent him for reference, which was probably a
5
>or 10 minute mix. I also sent him the individual tracks.
>Time to man up Mike, grab those tracks, and do some mixing!
>Rod
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Nice work, the tracks are solid man, as is the playing. The mix feels
>>disjointed, like the musicians aren't in the same room though. I'd assume
>
>>you have access to each drum track? You might wet those up a little,
>>especially the snare and put a pre delay on the verb of about 40-50mSecs
>to
>>give it a larger feel. Pull back the click of the kick beater a touch,
and
>
>>see if you can change the fundamental lower freq on the kick, and back
off
>a
>>little on the 'gated' feel if it has more ring... it just feels a bit
>>subdued to me. If not you might try to add a very short low pass verb to
>it.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>"Mike R" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:494e4f63@linux...
>>>
>>> I'm still not through with this one -tweak tweak.
>>> http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6792129
>>>
>>> Those awesome drums licks and tones are courtesy of Mr. Lincoln. I've
>
>>> been
>>> working a lot in Reaper these days (which is a fab crossover from Paris),
>>> but Rod tracked and mixed the drums in Paris. I would most definately
>
>>> appreciate
>>> any and all feedback from the fine ears on this NG. MR
>>
>>
>I like it...good tune, well played, nice mix...a tad lacking in the low end
but that's just my opinion
"Mike R" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:494e4f63@linux...
>
> I'm still not through with this one -tweak tweak.
> http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6792129
>
> Those awesome drums licks and tones are courtesy of Mr. Lincoln. I've
> been
> working a lot in Reaper these days (which is a fab crossover from Paris),
> but Rod tracked and mixed the drums in Paris. I would most definately
> appreciate
> any and all feedback from the fine ears on this NG. MRHi All,
I'm pulling my hair out trying to insert external hardware on the global
master in paris. Would someone be so kind as to refresh my brain on this
one?
Currently I've got Mec C as master. I've got an external comp patched in
and out of paris' analog i/o's (Mec C cards), routed in the Paris
patchbay to insert points 1 + 2 on the Mec C Inserts object in the patch
bay.
On the global master fader, I've got the "external" option called up as
an insert, but nothing is happening on the meter of my comp.
If I simply route Mec C L+R outs to my comp, it shows signal, so I'm
certain my routing is correct.
What am I doing wrong here? Ideally I've got 3 hardware units that I'd
like to strap across the 2 buss in paris..
Cheers,
TCHi all,
I just wanted to confirm that I've got Paris running on my Mac Pro with
the virtuavia expansion chassis running XP. This is a 4 card/4 mec setup
with multiple adat cards as well as analog cards in each mec.
I have MTC sending and receiving to a second mac pro running PTHD with
Pro Tools 8, (2 Lynx Auroras and 2 Digi 192 digital i/o's) with 32
channels of adat piping from PT to Paris, then 2 channels of spdif back
from Paris to Pro Tools for mixdown. All the mecs and digi interfaces
are clocked from a Lucid GenX 192. Sync seems to work ok with either PT
or Paris as master, but I have no way of testing adat sync since the PT
interfaces don't have it.
Thanks to Mike for his assistance over the weekend. The new drivers work
great!
Cheers,
TCSo to answer my own question,
I needed to patch the L+R insert points on the "Mec C Inserts" object to
my physical i/o's, instead of patching insert points 1+2 as I was
attempting to do, which I'm assuming can only be used on individual tracks.
So to confirm what KG told me earlier today, I would need to chain the
devices externally in series if I want multiple external hardware
devices across the 2 buss in Paris.
Cheers,
TC
TC wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm pulling my hair out trying to insert external hardware on the global
> master in paris. Would someone be so kind as to refresh my brain on this
> one?
>
> Currently I've got Mec C as master. I've got an external comp patched in
> and out of paris' analog i/o's (Mec C cards), routed in the Paris
> patchbay to insert points 1 + 2 on the Mec C Inserts object in the patch
> bay.
>
> On the global master fader, I've got the "external" option called up as
> an insert, but nothing is happening on the meter of my comp.
>
> If I simply route Mec C L+R outs to my comp, it shows signal, so I'm
> certain my routing is correct.
>
> What am I doing wrong here? Ideally I've got 3 hardware units that I'd
> like to strap across the 2 buss in paris..
>
> Cheers,
>
> TCThanks Aaron
Stewart.
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:494e598c@linux...
> Only accepting thanks at this point, I've declared the work public
> freeware to anyone wanting it. Enjoy the show bro.
>
> AA
>
>
> "Stewart" <sound_doggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:494d928b$1@linux...
>> Hi Aaron,
>>
>> Sorry to post here but I lost your email address.
>>
>> Don N. has kindly agreed to hook me up with a BT DVD, and reminded me
>> that you were the force behind the original creation and that some sort
>> of royalty payment might be appropriate - do you accept PayPal ?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Stewart
>>
>> Sound Dog Recording Studio
>> Sydney, Australia.
>>
>>
>
>Good job guys!! I can't wait to try the drivers and get Paris up and running
in 2009..
TC <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I just wanted to confirm that I've got Paris running on my Mac Pro with
>the virtuavia expansion chassis running XP. This is a 4 card/4 mec setup
>with multiple adat cards as well as analog cards in each mec.
>
>I have MTC sending and receiving to a second mac pro running PTHD with
>Pro Tools 8, (2 Lynx Auroras and 2 Digi 192 digital i/o's) with 32
>channels of adat piping from PT to Paris, then 2 channels of spdif back
>from Paris to Pro Tools for mixdown. All the mecs and digi interfaces
>are clocked from a Lucid GenX 192. Sync seems to work ok with either PT
>or Paris as master, but I have no way of testing adat sync since the PT
>interfaces don't have it.
>
>Thanks to Mike for his assistance over the weekend. The new drivers work
>great!
>
>Cheers,
>
>
>TCSounds great.. Good Job
"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>Once more with feeling...
>
>Hi All -
>
>I just picked up our band's new CD from the plant, and wanted to share a
>few tunes with you guys. Nothing's perfect, and you folks are a tough audience
>(listening to content _and_ production) but what the hey?
>
>Tracked in PARIS, mixed in Logic/Paris, summed through a Modded Neotek to
>tape, Mastered with the Audio-Cube system.
>
>Ted
>
>Some of the tracks are here:
>http://www.brilliantjoe.com/full_mp3s/
>
>The band's website is here:
>http://www.brilliantjoe.com/index.html
>I have to say also that it was a really painless setup with Mike's
drivers. Just install and go. I had some struggles with beta versions,
but the release version works perfect here.
Kudos to Mike!
Cheers,
TC
LaMont wrote:
> Good job guys!! I can't wait to try the drivers and get Paris up and running
> in 2009..
>
> TC <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just wanted to confirm that I've got Paris running on my Mac Pro with
>
>> the virtuavia expansion chassis running XP. This is a 4 card/4 mec setup
>
>> with multiple adat cards as well as analog cards in each mec.
>>
>> I have MTC sending and receiving to a second mac pro running PTHD with
>> Pro Tools 8, (2 Lynx Auroras and 2 Digi 192 digital i/o's) with 32
>> channels of adat piping from PT to Paris, then 2 channels of spdif back
>
>>from Paris to Pro Tools for mixdown. All the mecs and digi interfaces
>> are clocked from a Lucid GenX 192. Sync seems to work ok with either PT
>
>> or Paris as master, but I have no way of testing adat sync since the PT
>
>> interfaces don't have it.
>>
>> Thanks to Mike for his assistance over the weekend. The new drivers work
>
>> great!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> TC
>Mike, did you get my email? Sure it's possible. Just set the faders and pans
where they are in the pic I sent you. Add a touch of Paris plate on the snare.
That should get you very close, then you can make it better from there.
Also don't forget what I told you about the tracks. They're sample accurate
to the mix, so you could use them along with the mix to add a little low
to the kick, or verb to the snare, etc.
Rod
"Mike R" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>...I'm afraid....
>First off, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE all the feedback. Thank you John, Martin,
>Wayne, Aaron and Erling. I've haven't been posting here alot lately, but
>I knew you all would have some very helpful and detailed feedback. Most
>of the other folks I've run this by aren't deep listners. Man its so solo
>up there in the studio (thank god for Rod!)
> Now, to this notion of mixing drum tracks. I was thinking of all the
>ways I could make the some of the changes on Rod's mix -the two track.
I
>know its POSSIBLE to make the mix, but I don't think I could even get close
>to Rod's...
> Thanks again gentlemen. MR
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Man, this is a tough room!
>>just kidding
>>Actually it's really good to have constructive criticism. I think Mike
used
>>the stereo drum mix that I sent him for reference, which was probably a
>5
>>or 10 minute mix. I also sent him the individual tracks.
>>Time to man up Mike, grab those tracks, and do some mixing!
>>Rod
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>Nice work, the tracks are solid man, as is the playing. The mix feels
>>>disjointed, like the musicians aren't in the same room though. I'd assume
>>
>>>you have access to each drum track? You might wet those up a little,
>>>especially the snare and put a pre delay on the verb of about 40-50mSecs
>>to
>>>give it a larger feel. Pull back the click of the kick beater a touch,
>and
>>
>>>see if you can change the fundamental lower freq on the kick, and back
>off
>>a
>>>little on the 'gated' feel if it has more ring... it just feels a bit
>>>subdued to me. If not you might try to add a very short low pass verb
to
>>it.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>"Mike R" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:494e4f63@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I'm still not through with this one -tweak tweak.
>>>> http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6792129
>>>>
>>>> Those awesome drums licks and tones are courtesy of Mr. Lincoln. I've
>>
>>>> been
>>>> working a lot in Reaper these days (which is a fab crossover from Paris),
>>>> but Rod tracked and mixed the drums in Paris. I would most definately
>>
>>>> appreciate
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up.
I know this topic has been discussed to death, but I'm still
convinced that different DAWs affect the sound differently, even
if only when Pan and Volume/Gain/Sum changes are made.
At this point in time, I'm thinking that Logic is not as "big"
as CuBase/Nuendo. I also found different results when I took
final mixes from Logic and dropped them into PARIS and rebounced
in L & R with no gain change. I couldn't use this approach though
and still supply tape to the Mastering guy...
Ted"LaMont" <jj
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;>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would normally use my strat. An interesting unexpected benefit
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> how I love the single coil neck position for straight ahead jazz
>>>>>>>>>>>> tone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Check 'em out!
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>Nah, skip the hammer. Stack these in a small
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| Re: Set up advice . . . [message #100882 is a reply to message #100881] |
Fri, 31 October 2008 21:18 |
audioguy_editout_
Messages: 249
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kind of lacist.
>
>S
As they sing in "Avenue Q",
"Everyone's a little bit racist
Today.
So, everyone's a little bit racist
Okay!
Ethinic jokes might be uncouth,
But you laugh because
They're based on truth.
Don't take them as
Personal attacks.
Everyone enjoys them -
So relax!"
pabHeh, that stuff cuts quite nicely in all directions; he can speak our
language to the point we can understand him, that puts him miles ahead of me
in his.
Ah, lots of great memories from my travel days - you ought to have seen my
first days struggling in French in Paris.
I remember the day I tried to "introduce" a French guy I know to a
French-Canadian gal he fancied. He took me aside after and said "look, I
know you meant well, but it's 'presente'. 'Introduire' in French means to
'insert into' - but not in a natural way."
My ex-gf remembers teaching English to a class of 13-yr old boys and
inadvertently saying something that translated to "It was so cold today, I
had to wear two chickens!" (poule/pull[over]). That was effectively the end
of that class's work.
Another memorable moment was the time I got myself in trouble in Morocco
inadvertently calling a guy a "dick" in Arabic (who knew "zippy" was an
Arabic slang word?). And probably my proudest moment in German was looking
through someone's book collection and inadvertently saying "Ah, I see you
have a copy of Eugene Herrigel's 'Zen and the Art of Shitting With a Bow'."
(in my halting phrasebook German, bogenSHYssen, as opposed to bogenSHEEsen
or archery)
- K
On 12/26/08 9:24 PM, in article 0qebl4h8molbfnvkbiafj918tbncdn23kg@4ax.com,
"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:28:47 -0800, "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't that be lock and lorr? Sorry, that's kind of lacist.
>>
>> S
>
> As they sing in "Avenue Q",
>
> "Everyone's a little bit racist
> Today.
> So, everyone's a little bit racist
> Okay!
> Ethinic jokes might be uncouth,
> But you laugh because
> They're based on truth.
> Don't take them as
> Personal attacks.
> Everyone enjoys them -
> So relax!"
>
> pab
>M
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| Re: Set up advice . . . [message #100885 is a reply to message #100882] |
Sat, 01 November 2008 04:06 |
Deej [5]
Messages: 373
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>know you meant well, but it's 'presente'. 'Introduire' in French means to
>'insert into' - but not in a natural way."
>
>My ex-gf remembers teaching English to a class of 13-yr old boys and
>inadvertently saying something that translated to "It was so cold today,
I
>had to wear two chickens!" (poule/pull[over]). That was effectively the
end
>of that class's work.
>
>Another memorable moment was the time I got myself in trouble in Morocco
>inadvertently calling a guy a "dick" in Arabic (who knew "zippy" was an
>Arabic slang word?). And probably my proudest moment in German was looking
>through someone's book collection and inadvertently saying "Ah, I see you
>have a copy of Eugene Herrigel's 'Zen and the Art of Shitting With a Bow'."
>(in my halting phrasebook German, bogenSHYssen, as opposed to bogenSHEEsen
>or archery)
>
>- K
>
>On 12/26/08 9:24 PM, in article 0qebl4h8molbfnvkbiafj918tbncdn23kg@4ax.com,
>"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:28:47 -0800, "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wouldn't that be lock and lorr? Sorry, that's kind of lacist.
>>>
>>> S
>>
>> As they sing in "Avenue Q",
>>
>> "Everyone's a little bit racist
>> Today.
>> So, everyone's a little bit racist
>> Okay!
>> Ethinic jokes might be uncouth,
>> But you laugh because
>> They're based on truth.
>> Don't take them as
>> Personal attacks.
>> Everyone enjoys them -
>> So relax!"
>>
>> pab
>>
>Thanks Kerry much appreciated. Jim
Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Yes, Jim, they should load into a new ppj just fine. They'll have lost their
>position info, unfortunately, which can be a bit nightmarish with lots of
>punches and overdubs.
>
>- K
>
>
>On 12/26/08 11:59 PM, in article 4955d26b$1@linux, "jim drago"
><jimdrago@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> My son had done some recording. The PAF's and OVW's are available but
there
>> is no PPJ is there a way to reload these audio files and create a new
PPJ?
>> It's a long story but the PPJ file got deleted. Thanks Jim
>Dooooooodddd.... thanks for that.
AA
"Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:49551ee7$1@linux...
> This guys fronts a Christian band called downhere. Even the house worship
> band gives a notable performance...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGcDpnxtqsc&feature=relat ed
>
> Happy Holidays!
> CL
>yeah baby....http://www.myspace.com/gilbertdonovanPure Talent!!!
Like I've said so many times, any idiot can put out a CD or MP3s.
"John Macy" <nospamjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
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| Re: Set up advice . . . [message #100886 is a reply to message #100881] |
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John [1]
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om/gilbertdonovan" target="_blank">baby....http://www.myspace.com/gilbertdonovanHahahahaha. Vely crevel. :)
We were eating at a Chinese place a few months back and had ordered spring
rolls. The waitress brought them back and said, clear as a bell, "Here is
your spling lorr." I even wondered if she was doing it on purpose.
In my Spanish class a few years ago, I was supposed to say, "A veces de
noche tengo miedo." I said, "A veces de noche tengo meirda." So instead of
"Sometimes at night I'm afraid," I said, "Sometimes at night I have shit."
To say your age in Spanish, e.g., "I'm thirty years old," you would say, "Yo
tengo teinta aņos," literally, "I have thirty years." But if you leave out
that little squiggle over the "n," as we gringos tend to do, you'd be
saying, "I have thirty anuses."
S
"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C578E078.C160%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> Ror!
>
> - K
>
> On 12/25/08 5:28 AM, in article 49538e2a@linux, "Sarah"
> <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't that be lock and lorr? Sorry, that's kind of lacist.
>>
>> S
>>
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:4952e14c$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>> Don't you mean wok an woll?
>>>
>>>
>>> Wok & WORRRR.
>>>
>>> lol (I mean "ror")
>>>
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