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| Re: Let's face it, US public schools system has been failing since [message #94696 is a reply to message #94690] |
Mon, 14 January 2008 18:47   |
Bill L
Messages: 766
Registered: August 2006
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t; <dt@noreply.com> wrote:
>
>Before you pass judgement, make ill-informed assumptions and become a hypocrit
>yourself, read the context, ask questions, and attempt to actually understand
>other people. You just read a single word and extrapolated that into left
>field.
>
>This had nothing to do with race. You might has well launched off a diatribe
>on the problems with meteor storms on Pluto.
>
>And in case you were wondering, by "fabric" I meant guts to stand up for
>what you believe in with integrity, honor and respect, but without any pansy,
>pacifist whining and hiding behind labels and stereotypes.
>
>Btw - posting like this without your real name is cowardly and destroys
any
>credibility to your opinion, but at least it supports my argument in spades.
>
>
>
>"Yah" <Blah@ya-ya.com> wrote:
>>
>>Listen,
>>My comments are not about the article,I'm not defending the left. I just
>>find the statement "the fabric of are country" to be bullshit. We forget
>>about
>>are past and pass judgement on others. This is the self-righteousness I
>speak
>>of. As to why I do not post my name? Because of the self-righteousness
I
>>speak
>>of. Wake up! Clean up your backyard. Playing the race card? It could'nt
>be
>>played if racism was'nt true and alive today! You may look at my comments
>>as detour
>>into left field,but my comments are directed at your comment about the
"fabric"
>>of are country. The truth is almost all the founding fathers were slave
>owners,and
>>some only freed their slaves after they died. Now there is one thing I
agree
>>on
>>with you is that this place has gone way down!
>>
>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>And, btw - I can't believe anyone would even dare to post such racist
>>>propaganda as this
>>>(and that's exactly what it is) when the original post was on radical
islam,
>>
>>>not slavery. Simply amazing.
>>>
>>>This forum really has lost it. I'm out. I've really had enough of these
>>>far fetched bizarre reactions and detours into left field.
>>>
>>>"YAH" <bla-bla@yah.com> wrote in message news:47e3dde1$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> The fabric of are nation? What is that? Salvery? segragation? racisim?
>>
>>>> the
>>>> KKK?
>>>> self-righteousness!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>I've heard two separate commentaries (one a major news agency, the other
>>>> a
>>>>>Brit's personal rant) about how the UK is catering to the whims of Islam
>>>> -
>>>>>they've restricted the use of the Three Little Pigs story in some schools.
>>>>>England is funding Islamic schools for their Muslim citizens. They
are
>>>>>considering passing Islamic laws in some areas to appease that community
>>>>>(these were echoed in both, separate and independent commentaries -
two
>>>>>completely different viewpoints seeing the same thing happen). In effect,
>>>>>the UK is making concessions right and left and getting nothing in return
>>>> -
>>>>>just more demands. Forget their own history, people and culture, just
>>
>>>>>give
>>>>>up in the face of fear of suicide bombers, sarin gas, and extremist
>>>>>protests.
>>>>>
>>>>>The news agency report basically said exactly what you are DJ - the
US
>>is
>>>>>doing the same thing - bowing down and letting our "pacifist" leftwing
>>
>>>>>veil
>>>>>of "peace" and "equality" and "justice" dupe us into giving up those
>very
>>>>>ideals, playing right into the hands of extremism and even terrorism.
>>>>>That's the paradox that's become our country. And this is just one
case
>>>> of
>>>>>how the left is ironically proposing and touting exactly the opposite
>>of
>>>>>what is the fabric of our country.
>>>>>
>>>>>DT
>>>>>
>>>>>On 3/21/08 7:49 AM, in article 47e3bffd@linu
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| Re: Let's face it, US public schools system has been failing since the 70's. [message #94704 is a reply to message #94671] |
Tue, 15 January 2008 05:16 |
Sarah
Messages: 608
Registered: February 2007
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"Mr. Simplicity" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://blog.mlive.com/annarbornews/2007/09/dingell_global_wa rming_may_req.h
>> tml
>>>> This is the biggest load of disingenuous hubris I've seen in a while.
>> More
>>>> hypocracy. Whether you get it or not, your intelligence has just been
>>>> insulted and be assured that what this is really all about it preparing
>>> you
>>>> to be bent over as consumption falls. Expect more of this BS as gas usage
>>>> goes down and therefore the tax revenue that a gallon of gas generates
> is
>>>> proportionately reduced. To make up for the revenue shortfall, we're
>> going
>>>> to get taxed into oblivion........and I was even sorta' thinking about
>>>> voting for a Democrat for president. The new forumla for the American
>>>> economy is to tax businesses more so that they will continue to go
>> elsewhere
>>>> while screwing the workers who will be losing their jobs.
>>>>
>>>> Gimme some of that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>Why don't you start a new thread and we can throw down there?
"yah" <Blah@ya-ya.com> wrote:
>
>Why do yoy think that your opinion is the right one? Are you saying that
this
>country
>was'nt built on the backs of slavery? How am I a hypocrite? Ask questions?
>My
>first post was nothing but questions. Having the guts to stand up for
>what you believe in with integrity, honor and respect, but without any pansy,
>pacifist whining and hiding behind labels and stereotypes". are serious?
>Why did it take so long for every man to have the right same rights? Is'nt
>that something we were suppose to believe in? Honor? respect? Look,do'nt
>get
>made at me or anyone that confronts you with the truth. I love this country
>just as much as you. If I can say that with your permission. But we
>have alot of work to do. We want to blame everyone else for are problems.(not
>to say we are the cause of all the problems) Think what you want about my
>credibility,my words can stand on there own! This makes them no less true
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dt@noreply.com> wrote:
>>
>>Before you pass judgement, make ill-informed assumptions and become a hypocrit
>>yourself, read the context, ask questions, and attempt to actually understand
>>other people. You just read a single word and extrapolated that into left
>>field.
>>
>>This had nothing to do with race. You might has well launched off a diatribe
>>on the problems with meteor storms on Pluto.
>>
>>And in case you were wondering, by "fabric" I meant guts to stand up for
>>what you believe in with integrity, honor and respect, but without any
pansy,
>>pacifist whining and hiding behind labels and stereotypes.
>>
>>Btw - posting like this without your real name is cowardly and destroys
>any
>>credibility to your opinion, but at least it supports my argument in spades.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Yah" <Blah@ya-ya.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Listen,
>>>My comments are not about the article,I'm not defending the left. I just
>>>find the statement "the fabric of are country" to be bullshit. We forget
>>>about
>>>are past and pass judgement on others. This is the self-righteousness
I
>>speak
>>>of. As to why I do not post my name? Because of the self-righteousness
>I
>>>speak
>>>of. Wake up! Clean up your backyard. Playing the race card? It could'nt
>>be
>>>played if racism was'nt true and alive today! You may look at my comments
>>>as detour
>>>into left field,but my comments are directed at your comment about the
>"fabric"
>>>of are country. The truth is almost all the founding fathers were slave
>>owners,and
>>>some only freed their slaves after they died. Now there is one thing I
>agree
>>>on
>>>with you is that this place has gone way down!
>>>
>>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>And, btw - I can't believe anyone would even dare to post such racist
>
>>>>propaganda as this
>>>>(and that's exactly what it is) when the original post was on radical
>islam,
>>>
>>>>not slavery. Simply amazing.
>>>>
>>>>This forum really has lost it. I'm out. I've really had enough of these
>>>>far fetched bizarre reactions and detours into left field.
>>>>
>>>>"YAH" <bla-bla@yah.com> wrote in message news:47e3dde1$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> The fabric of are nation? What is that? Salvery? segragation? racisim?
>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>> KKK?
>>>>> self-righteousness!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>I've heard two separate commentaries (one a major news agency, the
other
>>>>> a
>>>>>>Brit's personal rant) about how the UK is catering to the whims of
Islam
>>>>> -
>>>>>>they've restricted the use of the Three Little Pigs story in some schools.
>>>>>>England is funding Islamic schools for their Muslim citizens. They
>are
>>>>>>considering passing Islamic laws in some areas to appease that community
>>>>>>(these were echoed in both, separate and independent commentaries -
>two
>>>>>>completely different viewpoints seeing the same thing happen). In
effect,
>>>>>>the UK is making concessions right and left and getting nothing in
return
>>>>> -
>>>>>>just more demands. Forget their own history, people and culture, just
>>>
>>>>>>give
>>>>>>up in the face of fear of suicide bombers, sarin gas, and extremist
>>>>>>protests.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The news agency report basically said exactly what you are DJ - the
>US
>>>is
>>>>>>doing the same thing - bowing down and letting our "pacifist" leftwing
>>>
>>>>>>veil
>>>>>>of "peace" and "equality" and "justice" dupe us into giving up those
>>very
>>>>>>ideals, playing right into the hands of extremism and even terrorism.
>>>>>>That's the paradox that's become our country. And this is just one
>case
>>>>> of
>>>>>>how the left is ir
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| Re: Let's face it, US public schools system has been failing since the 70's. [message #94706 is a reply to message #94704] |
Tue, 15 January 2008 06:58 |
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gt;>>>>>> This one is the kicker though, and elucidates my periodic rants better
>>>>> than
>>>>>>> I do:
>>>>>>> http://dineshdsouza.com/books/enemy-intro.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our economy is gonna bounce along the bottom for a while. This wasn't
>>>>>>> necessary. Now I hear the Democrats starting to harp on the economy
>>>and
>>>>> tie
>>>>>>> it ti Iraq. there is, most definitely, a connection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2007/04/selfless-narcissism.htm l
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and the following excerpt is something I've been ranting about here
>>>and
>>>>>>> elsewhere for years:
>>>>>>> The Democrats and their glorious leaders, who have become so
>>>>>>> narcissistically invested in this country's defeat as a political
>
>>>>>>> strategy
>>>>>>> to accumulate power and "restore American honor", that they
>>>>>>> have--wittingly
>>>>>>> or unwittingly--decided to sell their countrymen out to the very
enemy
>>>>> they
>>>>>>> are currently fighting. They mean well, of course. They do it for
>those
>>>>>>> wonderful 'selfless' reasons--like "peace" and "social justice" and
>>>all.
>>>>>>> They really support the troops .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's just ignore the fact that they bear considerable responsibility
>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the ongoing violence and death of our troops as they enable and
>>>>>>> encourage
>>>>>>> the priorities of the enemy. Why should the terrorists alter their
>>
>>>>>>> homicidal
>>>>>>> behavior? It is working! People like Nancy Pelosi are living proof
>>of
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> effectiveness of their strategy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There really is a problem. It's a problem that has been aggravated
>>and
>>>>>>> encouraged by the left in this country..........you know, the ones
>>>who
>>>>>>> don't quite understand that they will be the first to be slaughtered
>>>
>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>> they have thrown a wrench in the gears of those who are willing to
>>
>>>>>>> protect
>>>>>>> them. They just do not get it. The Islamists parrot the leftist American
>>>>>>> Imperialist tripe that the leftists love to hear and ascribe to this
>>>
>>>>>>> country
>>>>>>> but the Islamists do it by design, to dupe the left into helping
them
>>>>>>> destroy the protectors of the culture that the left hopes to protect
>>>by
>>>>>>> trying to appease those who will not be appeased until the leftists
>>>are
>>>>>>> either dead or are kneeling toward Mecca. Once it is too late, they
>>>can
>>>>> then
>>>>>>> whine about how pissed off they are that there's no separation between
>>>>>>> mosque and state...right before they are separated from their heads.
>>>I
>>>>>>> recognized it years ago. So did lots of other people.....funny, I
>didn't
>>>>>>> hear a peep out of OBama though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK......now I'm of to rape the land.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bye.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Do you really want to ruin Good Friday LaMont?
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Why don't you start a new thread and we can throw down there?
>
>"yah" <Blah@ya-ya.com> wrote:
>>
>>Why do yoy think that your opinion is the right one? Are you saying that
>this
>>country
>>was'nt built on the backs of slavery? How am I a hypocrite? Ask questions?
>>My
>>first post was nothing but questions. Having the guts to stand up for
>>what you believe in with integrity, honor and respect, but without any
pansy,
>>pacifist whining and hiding behind labels and stereotypes". are serious?
>>Why did it take so long for every man to have the right same rights? Is'nt
>>that something we were suppose to believe in? Honor? respect? Look,do'nt
>>get
>>made at me or anyone that confronts you with the truth. I love this country
>>just as much as you. If I can say that with your permission. But we
>>have alot of work to do. We want to blame everyone else for are problems.(not
>>to say we are the cause of all the problems) Think what you want about
my
>>credibility,my words can stand on there own! This makes them no less true
>>
>>"Dedric Terry" <dt@noreply.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Before you pass judgement, make ill-informed assumptions and become a
hypocrit
>>>yourself, read the context, ask questions, and attempt to actually understand
>>>other people. You just read a single word and extrapolated that into
left
>>>field.
>>>
>>>This had nothing to do with race. You might has well launched off a diatribe
>>>on the problems with meteor storms on Pluto.
>>>
>>>And in case you were wondering, by "fabric" I meant guts to stand up for
>>>what you believe in with integrity, honor and respect, but without any
>pansy,
>>>pacifist whining and hiding behind labels and stereotypes.
>>>
>>>Btw - posting like this without your real name is cowardly and destroys
>>any
>>>credibility to your opinion, but at least it supports my argument in spades.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Yah" <Blah@ya-ya.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Listen,
>>>>My comments are not about the article,I'm not defending the left. I just
>>>>find the statement "the fabric of are country" to be bullshit. We forget
>>>>about
>>>>are past and pass judgement on others. This is the self-righteousness
>I
>>>speak
>>>>of. As to why I do not post my name? Because of the self-righteousness
>>I
>>>>speak
>>>>of. Wake up! Clean up your backyard. Playing the race card? It could'nt
>>>be
>>>>played if racism was'nt true and alive today! You may look at my comments
>>>>as detour
>>>>into left field,but my comments are directed at your comment about the
>>"fabric"
>>>>of are country. The truth is almost all the founding fathers were slave
>>>owners,and
>>>>some only freed their slaves after they died. Now there is one thing
I
>>agree
>>>>on
>>>>with you is that this place has gone way down!
>>>>
>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>And, btw - I can't believe anyone would even dare to post such racist
>>
>>>>>propaganda as this
>>>>>(and that's exactly what it is) when the original post was on radical
>>islam,
>>>>
>>>>>not slavery. Simply amazing.
>>>>>
>>>>>This forum really has lost it. I'm out. I've really had enough of
these
>>>>>far fetched bizarre reactions and detours into left field.
>>>>>
>>>>>"YAH" <bla-bla@yah.com> wrote in message news:47e3dde1$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The fabric of are nation? What is that? Salvery? segragation? racisim?
>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> KKK?
>>>>>> self-righteousness!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>I've heard two separate commentaries (one a major news agency, the
>other
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>Brit's personal rant) about how the UK is catering to the whims of
>Islam
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>they've restricted the use of the Three Little Pigs story in some
schools.
>>>>>>>England is funding Islamic schools for their Muslim citizens. They
>>are
>>>>>>>considering passing Islamic laws in some areas to appease that community
>>>>>>>(these were echoed in both, separate and independent commentaries
-
>>two
>>>>>>>completely
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| Re: Let's face it, US public schools system has been failing since [message #94710 is a reply to message #94692] |
Tue, 15 January 2008 08:05 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Senior Member |
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d and we can throw down there?
>>
>>"yah" <Blah@ya-ya.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Why do yoy think that your opinion is the right one? Are you saying that
>>this
>>>country
>>>was'nt built on the backs of slavery? How am I a hypocrite? Ask questions?
>>>My
>>>first post was nothing but questions. Having the guts to stand up for
>>>what you believe in with integrity, honor and respect, but without any
>pansy,
>>>pacifist whining and hiding behind labels and stereotypes". are serious?
>>>Why did it take so long for every man to have the right same rights? Is'nt
>>>that something we were suppose to believe in? Honor? respect? Look,do'nt
>>>get
>>>made at me or anyone that confronts you with the truth. I love this country
>>>just as much as you. If I can say that with your permission. But we
>>>have alot of work to do. We want to blame everyone else for are problems.(not
>>>to say we are the cause of all the problems) Think what you want about
>my
>>>credibility,my words can stand on there own! This makes them no less true
>>>
>>>"Dedric Terry" <dt@noreply.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Before you pass judgement, make ill-informed assumptions and become a
>hypocrit
>>>>yourself, read the context, ask questions, and attempt to actually understand
>>>>other people. You just read a single word and extrapolated that into
>left
>>>>field.
>>>>
>>>>This had nothing to do with race. You might has well launched off a
diatribe
>>>>on the problems with meteor storms on Pluto.
>>>>
>>>>And in case you were wondering, by "fabric" I meant guts to stand up
for
>>>>what you believe in with integrity, honor and respect, but without any
>>pansy,
>>>>pacifist whining and hiding behind labels and stereotypes.
>>>>
>>>>Btw - posting like this without your real name is cowardly and destroys
>>>any
>>>>credibility to your opinion, but at least it supports my argument in
spades.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Yah" <Blah@ya-ya.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Listen,
>>>>>My comments are not about the article,I'm not defending the left. I
just
>>>>>find the statement "the fabric of are country" to be bullshit. We forget
>>>>>about
>>>>>are past and pass judgement on others. This is the self-righteousness
>>I
>>>>speak
>>>>>of. As to why I do not post my name? Because of the self-righteousness
>>>I
>>>>>speak
>>>>>of. Wake up! Clean up your backyard. Playing the race card? It could'nt
>>>>be
>>>>>played if racism was'nt true and alive today! You may look at my comments
>>>>>as detour
>>>>>into left field,but my comments are directed at your comment about the
>>>"fabric"
>>>>>of are country. The truth is almost all the founding fathers were slave
>>>>owners,and
>>>>>some only freed their slaves after they died. Now there is one thing
>I
>>>agree
>>>>>on
>>>>>with you is that this place has gone way down!
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>And, btw - I can't believe anyone would even dare to post such racist
>>>
>>>>>>propaganda as this
>>>>>>(and that's exactly what it is) when the original post was on radical
>>>islam,
>>>>>
>>>>>>not slavery. Simply amazing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This forum really has lost it. I'm out. I've really had enough of
>these
>>>>>>far fetched bizarre reactions and detours into left field.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"YAH" <bla-bla@yah.com> wrote in message news:47e3dde1$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The fabric of are nation? What is that? Salvery? segragation? racisim?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> KKK?
>>>>>>> self-righteousness!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>I've heard two separate commentaries (one a major news agency, the
>>other
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>Brit's personal rant) about how the UK is catering to the whims of
>>Islam
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>they've restricted the use of the Three Little Pigs story in some
>schools.
>>>>>>>>England is funding Islamic schools for their Muslim citizens. They
>>>are
>>>>>>>>considering passing Islamic laws in some areas to appease that community
>>>>>>>>(these were echoed in both, separate and independent commentaries
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| Re: Let's face it, US public schools system has been failing since the 70's. [message #94711 is a reply to message #94706] |
Tue, 15 January 2008 06:50 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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Senior Member |
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gt;>>two
>>>>>>>>completely different viewpoints seeing the same thing happen). In
>>effect,
>>>>>>>>the UK is making concessions right and left and getting nothing in
>>return
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>just more demands. Forget their own history, people and culture,
>just
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>give
>>>>>>>>up in the face of fear of suicide bombers, sarin gas, and extremist
>>>>>>>>protests.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The news agency report basically said exactly what you are DJ - the
>>>US
>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>doing the same thing - bowing down and letting our "pacifist" leftwing
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>veil
>>>>>>>>of "peace" and "equality" and "justice" dupe us into giving up those
>>>>very
>>>>>>>>ideals, playing right into the hands of extremism and even terrorism.
>>>>>>>>That's the paradox that's become our country. And this is just one
>>>case
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>how the left is ironically proposing and touting exactly the opposite
>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>what is the fabric of our country.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>DT
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 3/21/08 7:49 AM, in article 47e3bffd@linux, "Mr. Simplicity"
>>>>>>>><noway@jose.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Isn't this cute?
>>>>>>>>> http://markhumphrys.com/left.islamic.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This one is the kicker though, and elucidates my periodic rants
>better
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>> I do:
>>>>>>>>> http://dineshdsouza.com/books/enemy-intro.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Our economy is gonna bounce along the bottom for a while. This
wasn't
>>>>>>>>> necessary. Now I hear the Democrats starting to harp on the economy
>>>>>and
>>>>>>> tie
>>>>>>>>> it ti Iraq. there is, most definitely, a connection.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2007/04/selfless-narcissism.htm l
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and the following excerpt is something I've been ranting about
here
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>> elsewhere for years:
>>>>>>>>> The Democrats and their glorious leaders, who have become so
>>>>>>>>> narcissistically invested in this country's defeat as a political
>>>
>>>>>>>>> strategy
>>>>>>>>> to accumulate power and "restore American honor", that they
>>>>>>>>> have--wittingly
>>>>>>>>> or unwittingly--decided to sell their countrymen out to the very
>>enemy
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> are currently fighting. They mean well, of course. They do it for
>>>those
>>>>>>>>> wonderful 'selfless' reasons--like "peace" and "social justice"
>and
>>>>>all.
>>>>>>>>> They really support the troops .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let's just ignore the fact that they bear considerable responsibility
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the ongoing violence and death of our troops as they enable and
>
>>>>>>>>> encourage
>>>>>>>>> the priorities of the enemy. Why should the terrorists alter their
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> homicidal
>>>>>>>>> behavior? It is working! People like Nancy Pelosi are living proof
>>>>of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> effectiveness of their strategy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There really is a problem. It's a problem that has been aggravated
>>>>and
>>>>>>>>> encouraged by the left in this country..........you know, the
ones
>>>>>who
>>>>>>>>> don't quite understand that they will be the first to be slaughtered
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>> they have thrown a wrench in the gears of those who are willing
>to
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> protect
>>>>>>>>> them. They just do not get it. The Islamists parrot the leftist
>American
>>>>>>>>> Imperialist tripe that the leftists love to hear and ascribe to
>this
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> country
>>>>>>>>> but the Islamists do it by design, to dupe the left into helping
>>them
>>>>>>>>> destroy the protectors of the culture that the left hopes to protect
>>>>>by
>>>>>>>>> trying to appease those who will not be appeased until the leftists
>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>> either dead or are kneeling toward Mecca. Once it is too late,
they
>>>>>can
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> whine about how pissed off they are that there's no separation
between
>>>>>>>>> mosque and state...right before they are separated from their heads.
>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>> recognized it years ago. So did lots of other people.....funny,
>I
>>>didn't
>>>>>>>>> hear a peep out of OBama though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK......now I'm of to rape the land.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bye.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>again, i know the story is about language, confusion and other bright
>ideas men come up with.
>sorry, but i have a problem with "men" had one language thing. just
>as i have a problem with god being suprised that adam and eve would
>partake of the forbidden fruit when told no no no you don't. he's
>god...for his sakes... guess he also didn't think of incest when
>populating the earth from just one pair of peeps. i mean cain went to
>the land of nod and eventually married...who...i don't
>know...mom...sis...cousin rita???
>i believe god was smart enough to create the laws of physics that
>allow certain things to happen under certain conditions and lets the
>chips fall where they may. to me god doesn't kill 250 people on a
>plane and spare one as a lesson of his devine intervention
>capabilities. he doesn't kill half a town yet spares a church so they
>have somewhere to mourn the dead.
>the truely (again to me) sad thing about the differing concepts of god
>is how their used to validate the harm we do each other.
>
>
>On 22 Mar 2008 00:13:36 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
>wrote:
>
>>http://ldolphin.org/babel.html
>What did you think of him? Good coach?
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
rick wrote:
> dingle was my little league baseball coach...seriously.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:04:54 -0600, Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Let's just say for the moment, for the sake of argument, that Al Gore is
>> a cheese sandwich. OK? And on another side, Let's say Exxon is a tofu
>> burger. Alright? Let's just say they are both inconsequential, however
>> you want to visualize that, so we can let all of that go and talk about
>> something more fundamental.
>>
>> What if the scientists are right that the greenhouse gases (which
>> actually DO help keep the planet warm enough for human habitation or we
>> wouldn't be here talking about it - those gases) what if they DO retain
>> additional heat when we add to them faster than natural cycles can
>> mitigate?
>>
>> That's a reasonable possibility. Retaining heat is what greenhouse gases
>> do. As a simple analogy, put on a more insulated blanket at night and
>> you're likely to be warmer, overall.
>>
>> Possible changes in the atmosphere and the likely repercussions are what
>> many professional and reasonably sane scientists are reporting and
>> discussing.
>>
>> There is a real chance something is happening in the atmosphere due to
>> human contributions to greenhouse gases. Which means there's a real
>> chance we have to deal with it one way or another. Proactively or
>> reactively. And it's very likely to be easier to deal with sooner than
>> later.
>>
>> When a Michigan congressman who is one of the main defenders of the auto
>> industry in Washington starts talking plainly about the ramifications of
>> human contributions to greenhouse gases, that's news.
>>
>> It's not enough to merely tar him as a Democrat. This is the guy who
>> held up updating CAFE. He has not been shy about representing the auto
>> industry.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>> James McCloskey wrote:
>>> This is what i've been saying. When Al Gore buys global offsets for t
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onts you with the truth. I love this country
>>>>just as much as you. If I can say that with your permission. But we
>>>>have alot of work to do. We want to blame everyone else for are problems.(not
>>>>to say we are the cause of all the problems) Think what you want about
>>my
>>>>credibility,my words can stand on there own! This makes them no less
true
>>>>
>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dt@noreply.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Before you pass judgement, make ill-informed assumptions and become
a
>>hypocrit
>>>>>yourself, read the context, ask questions, and attempt to actually understand
>>>>>other people. You just read a single word and extrapolated that into
>>left
>>>>>field.
>>>>>
>>>>>This had nothing to do with race. You might has well launched off a
>diatribe
>>>>>on the problems with meteor storms on Pluto.
>>>>>
>>>>>And in case you were wondering, by "fabric" I meant guts to stand up
>for
>>>>>what you believe in with integrity, honor and respect, but without any
>>>pansy,
>>>>>pacifist whining and hiding behind labels and stereotypes.
>>>>>
>>>>>Btw - posting like this without your real name is cowardly and destroys
>>>>any
>>>>>credibility to your opinion, but at least it supports my argument in
>spades.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Yah" <Blah@ya-ya.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Listen,
>>>>>>My comments are not about the article,I'm not defending the left. I
>just
>>>>>>find the statement "the fabric of are country" to be bullshit. We forget
>>>>>>about
>>>>>>are past and pass judgement on others. This is the self-righteousness
>>>I
>>>>>speak
>>>>>>of. As to why I do not post my name? Because of the self-righteousness
>>>>I
>>>>>>speak
>>>>>>of. Wake up! Clean up your backyard. Playing the race card? It could'nt
>>>>>be
>>>>>>played if racism was'nt true and alive today! You may look at my comments
>>>>>>as detour
>>>>>>into left field,but my comments are directed at your comment about
the
>>>>"fabric"
>>>>>>of are country. The truth is almost all the founding fathers were slave
>>>>>owners,and
>>>>>>some only freed their slaves after they died. Now there is one thing
>>I
>>>>agree
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>with you is that this place has gone way down!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>And, btw - I can't believe anyone would even dare to post such racist
>>>>
>>>>>>>propaganda as this
>>>>>>>(and that's exactly what it is) when the original post was on radical
>>>>islam,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>not slavery. Simply amazing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This forum really has lost it. I'm out. I've really had enough of
>>these
>>>>>>>far fetched bizarre reactions and detours into left field.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"YAH" <bla-bla@yah.com> wrote in message news:47e3dde1$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The fabric of are nation? What is that? Salvery? segragation? racisim?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> KKK?
>>>>>>>> self-righteousness!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>I've heard two separate commentaries (one a major news agency, the
>>>other
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>Brit's personal rant) about how the UK is catering to the whims
of
>>>Islam
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>they've restricted the use of the Three Little Pigs story in some
>>schools.
>>>>>>>>>England is funding Islamic schools for their Muslim citizens. They
>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>considering passing Islamic laws in some areas to appease that community
>>>>>>>>>(these were echoed in both, separate and independent commentaries
>>-
>>>>two
>>>>>>>>>completely different viewpoints seeing the same thing happen).
In
>>>effect,
>>>>>>>>>the UK is making concessions right and left and getting nothing
in
>>>return
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>just more demands. Forget their own history, people and culture,
>>just
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>give
>>>>>>>>>up in the face of fear of suicide bombers, sarin gas, and extremist
>>>>>>>>>protests.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The news agency report basically said exactly what you are DJ -
the
>>>>US
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>doing the same thing - bowing down and letting our "pacifist" leftwing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>veil
>>>>>>>>>of "peace" and "equality" and "justice" dupe us into giving up those
>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>ideals, playing right into the hands of extremism and even terrorism.
>>>>>>>>>That's the paradox that's become our country. And this is just
one
>>>>case
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>how the left is ironically proposing and touting exactly the opposite
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>what is the fabric of our country.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>DT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On 3/21/08 7:49 AM, in article 47e3bffd@linux, "Mr. Simplicity"
>>>>>>>>><noway@jose.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Isn't this cute?
>>>>>>>>>> http://markhumphrys.com/left.islamic.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This one is the kicker though, and elucidates my periodic rants
>>better
>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>> I do:
>>>>>>>>>> http://dineshdsouza.com/books/enemy-intro.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Our economy is gonna bounce along the bottom for a while. This
>wasn't
>>>>>>>>>> necessary. Now I hear the Democrats starting to harp on the economy
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>> tie
>>>>>>>>>> it ti Iraq. there is, most definitely, a connection.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2007/04/selfless-narcissism.htm l
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and the following excerpt is something I've been ranting about
>here
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>> elsewhere for years:
>>>>>>>>>> The Democrats and their glorious leaders, who have become so
>>>>>>>>>> narcissistically invested in this country's defeat as a political
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> strategy
>>>>>>>>>> to accumulate power and "restore American honor", that they
>>>>>>>>>> have--wittingly
>>>>>>>>>> or unwittingly--decided to sell their countrymen out to the very
>>>enemy
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> are currently fighting. They mean well, of course. They do it
for
>>>>those
>>>>>>>>>> wonderful 'selfless' reasons--like "peace" and "social justice"
>>and
>>>>>>all.
>>>>>>>>>> They really support the troops .
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let's just ignore the fact that they bear considerable responsibility
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> the ongoing violence and death of our troops as they enable and
>>
>>>>>>>>>> encourage
>>>>>>>>>> the priorities of the enemy. Why should the terrorists alter their
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> homicidal
>>>>>>>>>> behavior? It is working! People like Nancy Pelosi are living proof
>>>>>of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> effectiveness of their strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There really is a problem. It's a problem that has been aggravated
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>> encouraged by the left in this country..........you know, the
>ones
>>>>>>who
>>>>>>>>>> don't quite understand that they will be the first to be slaughtered
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>> they have thrown a wrench in the gears of those who are willing
>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> protect
>>>>>>>>>> them. They just do not get it. The Islamists parrot the leftist
>>American
>>>>>>>>>> Imperialist tripe that the leftists love to hear and ascribe to
>>this
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> country
>>>>>>>>>> but the Islamists do it by design, to dupe the left into helping
>>>them
>>>>>>>>>> destroy the protectors of the culture that the left hopes to protect
>>>>>>by
>>>>>>>>>> trying to appease those who will not be appeased until the leftists
>>>>>>are
>>>>>>&
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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Tue, 15 January 2008 12:31 |
Deej [5]
Messages: 373
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;>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Oh, forgot one important thing.... It wasn't men who came up with the "bright
idea" to confuse the language, it was Gods.
BUT it was mans idea to attempt to build the tower and according to what
the Word is all about, they would have succeded if God hadn't interviened
with the language confusion.
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
>Rick, I HIGHLY reccomend you crack the book open and read the text for yourself.
>You keep coming up with all these goofy things about a tree being a tree
>and swinging a cat around... Man... that's all just foolishness. Please,
>read it first-THEN bring on the comments. Right now all you are doing is
>"babelling" about something you don't know anything about. Read the text....
>It WAS all about all the Babylonians speaking Babalonian. Not a hard concept
>to understand. God wanted to break their power of agreement so he confused
>the language and no-one understood each other and the progress of the tower
>seeced. Why are you fighting such a simple, well known, taught to millions,
>established story? You are fortunate that there are (just assuming guys)a
>handful of Believers on this Forum who (you may as well face it) won't back
>down from the Truth?
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>again, i know the story is about language, confusion and other bright
>>ideas men come up with.
>>sorry, but i have a problem with "men" had one language thing. just
>>as i have a problem with god being suprised that adam and eve would
>>partake of the forbidden fruit when told no no no you don't. he's
>>god...for his sakes... guess he also didn't think of incest when
>>populating the earth from just one pair of peeps. i mean cain went to
>>the land of nod and eventually married...who...i don't
>>know...mom...sis...cousin rita???
>>i believe god was smart enough to create the laws of physics that
>>allow certain things to happen under certain conditions and lets the
>>chips fall where they may. to me god doesn't kill 250 people on a
>>plane and spare one as a lesson of his devine intervention
>>capabilities. he doesn't kill half a town yet spares a church so they
>>have somewhere to mourn the dead.
>>the truely (again to me) sad thing about the differing concepts of god
>>is how their used to validate the harm we do each other.
>>
>>
>>On 22 Mar 2008 00:13:36 +1000, "Steve Cox" <Report message to a moderator
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Tue, 15 January 2008 13:47 |
Bill L
Messages: 766
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? How am I a hypocrite? Ask questions?
>>>>>>My
>>>>>>first post was nothing but questions. Having the guts to stand up for
>>>>>>what you believe in with integrity, honor and respect, but without
any
>>>>pansy,
>>>>>>pacifist whining and hiding behind labels and stereotypes". are serious?
>>>>>>Why did it take so long for every man to have the right same rights?
>>Is'nt
>>>>>>that something we were suppose to believe in? Honor? respect? Look,do'nt
>>>>>>get
>>>>>>made at me or anyone that confronts you with the truth. I love this
>country
>>>>>>just as much as you. If I can say that with your permission. But we
>>>>>>have alot of work to do. We want to blame everyone else for are problems.(not
>>>>>>to say we are the cause of all the problems) Think what you want about
>>>>my
>>>>>>credibility,my words can stand on there own! This makes them no less
>>true
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dt@noreply.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Before you pass judgement, make ill-informed assumptions and become
>>a
>>>>hypocrit
>>>>>>>yourself, read the context, ask questions, and attempt to actually
>understand
>>>>>>>other people. You just read a single word and extrapolated that into
>>>>left
>>>>>>>field.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This had nothing to do with race. You might has well launched off
>a
>>>diatribe
>>>>>>>on the problems with meteor storms on Pluto.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And in case you were wondering, by "fabric" I meant guts to stand
up
>>>for
>>>>>>>what you believe in with integrity, honor and respect, but without
>any
>>>>>pansy,
>>>>>>>pacifist whining and hiding behind labels and stereotypes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Btw - posting like this without your real name is cowardly and destroys
>>>>>>any
>>>>>>>credibility to your opinion, but at least it supports my argument
in
>>>spades.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Yah" <Blah@ya-ya.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Listen,
>>>>>>>>My comments are not about the article,I'm not defending the left.
>I
>>>just
>>>>>>>>find the statement "the fabric of are country" to be bullshit. We
>forget
>>>>>>>>about
>>>>>>>>are past and pass judgement on others. This is the self-righteousness
>>>>>I
>>>>>>>speak
>>>>>>>>of. As to why I do not post my name? Because of the self-righteousness
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>speak
>>>>>>>>of. Wake up! Clean up your backyard. Playing the race card? It could'nt
>>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>played if racism was'nt true and alive today! You may look at my
>comments
>>>>>>>>as detour
>>>>>>>>into left field,but my comments are directed at your comment about
>>the
>>>>>>"fabric"
>>>>>>>>of are country. The truth is almost all the founding fathers were
>slave
>>>>>>>owners,and
>>>>>>>>some only freed their slaves after they died. Now there is one thing
>>>>I
>>>>>>agree
>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>with you is that this place has gone way down!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>And, btw - I can't believe anyone would even dare to post such racist
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>propaganda as this
>>>>>>>>>(and that's exactly what it is) when the original post was on radical
>>>>>>islam,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>not slavery. Simply amazing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>This forum really has lost it. I'm out. I've really had enough
>of
>>>>these
>>>>>>>>>far fetched bizarre reactions and detours into left field.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"YAH" <bla-bla@yah.com> wrote in message news:47e3dde1$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The fabric of are nation? What is that? Salvery? segragation?
>racisim?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> KKK?
>>>>>>>>>> self-righteousness!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>I've heard two separate commentaries (one a major news agency,
>the
>>>>>other
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>Brit's personal rant) about how the UK is catering to the whims
>>of
>>>>>Islam
>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>they've restricted the use of the Three Little Pigs story in some
>>>>schools.
>>>>>>>>>>>England is funding Islamic schools for their Muslim citizens.
>They
>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>>considering passing Islamic laws in some areas to appease that
>community
>>>>>>>>>>>(these were echoed in both, separate and independent commentaries
>>>>-
>>>>>>two
>>>>>>>>>>>completely different viewpoints seeing the same thing happen).
>
>>In
>>>>>effect,
>>>>>>>>>>>the UK is making concessions right and left and getting nothing
>>in
>>>>>return
>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>just more demands. Forget their own history, people and culture,
>>>>just
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>give
>>>>>>>>>>>up in the face of fear of suicide bombers, sarin gas, and extremist
>>>>>>>>>>>protests.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>The news agency report basically said exactly what you are DJ
-
>>the
>>>>>>US
>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>doing the same thing - bowing down and letting our "pacifist"
leftwing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>veil
>>>>>>>>>>>of "peace" and "equality" and "justice" dupe us into giving up
>those
>>>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>>>ideals, playing right into the hands of extremism and even terrorism.
>>>>>>>>>>>That's the paradox that's become our country. And this is just
>>one
>>>>>>case
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>how the left is ironically proposing and touting exactly the opposite
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>what is the fabric of our country.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>DT
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On 3/21/08 7:49 AM, in article 47e3bffd@linux, "Mr. Simplicity"
>>>>>>>>>>><noway@jose.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't this cute?
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://markhumphrys.com/left.islamic.html
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Tue, 15 January 2008 13:51 |
Bill L
Messages: 766
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>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dineshdsouza.com/books/enemy-intro.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Our economy is gonna bounce along the bottom for a while. This
>>>wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary. Now I hear the Democrats starting to harp on the
economy
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>> tie
>>>>>>>>>>>> it ti Iraq. there is, most definitely, a connection.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2007/04/selfless-narcissism.htm l
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and the following excerpt is something I've been ranting about
>>>here
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>> elsewhere for years:
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Democrats and their glorious leaders, who have become so
>>>>>>>>>>>> narcissistically invested in this country's defeat as a political
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> strategy
>>>>>>>>>>>> to accumulate power and "restore American honor", that they
>>>>>>>>>>>> have--wittingly
>>>>>>>>>>>> or unwittingly--decided to sell their countrymen out to the
very
>>>>>enemy
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>> are currently fighting. They mean well, of course. They do it
>>for
>>>>>>those
>>>>>>>>>>>> wonderful 'selfless' reasons--like "peace" and "social justice"
>>>>and
>>>>>>>>all.
>>>>>>>>>>>> They really support the troops .
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's just ignore the fact that they bear considerable responsibility
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the ongoing violence and death of our troops as they enable
and
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> encourage
>>>>>>>>>>>> the priorities of the enemy. Why should the terrorists alter
>their
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> homicidal
>>>>>>>>>>>> behavior? It is working! People like Nancy Pelosi are living
>proof
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> effectiveness of their strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There really is a problem. It's a problem that has been aggravated
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>> encouraged by the left in this country..........you know, the
>>>ones
>>>>>>>>who
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't quite understand that they will be the first to be slaughtered
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>>>> they have thrown a wrench in the gears of those who are willing
>>>>to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> protect
>>>>>>>>>>>> them. They just do not get it. The Islamists parrot the leftist
>>>>American
>>>>>>>>>>>> Imperialist tripe that the leftists love to hear and ascribe
>to
>>>>this
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> country
>>>>>>>>>>>> but the Islamists do it by design, to dupe the left into helping
>>>>>them
>>>>>>>>>>>> destroy the protectors of the culture that the left hopes to
>protect
>>>>>>>>by
>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to appease those who will not be appeased until the leftists
>>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>>> either dead or are kneeling toward Mecca. Once it is too late,
>>>they
>>>>>>>>can
>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>> whine about how pissed off they are that there's no separation
>>>between
>>>>>>>>>>>> mosque and state...right before they are separated from their
>>heads.
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>> recognized it years ago. So did lots of other people.....funny,
>>>>I
>>>>>>didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> hear a peep out of OBama though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK......now I'm of to rape the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> bye.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>That's why we love you Lamont!
LaMont wrote:
> Hey Hey.. I logged on. I'm offended that you would think that I posted that
> "YA" stuff. I always put my name on my post with my real email address. I
> have nothing to hide..
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Do you really want to ruin Good Friday LaMont?
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Why don't you start a new thread and we can throw down there?
>>>
>>> "yah" <Blah@ya-ya.com> wrote:
>>>> Why do yoy think that your opinion is the right one? Are you saying that
>>> this
>>>> country
>>>> was'nt built on the backs of slavery? How am I a hypocrite? Ask questions?
>>>> My
>>>> first post was nothing but questions. Having the guts to stand up for
>>>> what you believe in with integrity, honor and respect, but without any
>> pansy,
>>>> pacifist whining and hiding behind labels and stereotypes". are serious?
>>>> Why did it take so long for every man to have the right same rights? Is'nt
>>>> that something we were suppose to believe in? Honor? respect? Look,do'nt
>>>> get
>>>> made at me or anyone that confronts you with the truth. I love this country
>>>> just as much as you. If I can say that with your permission. But we
>>>> have alot of work to do. We want to blame everyone else for are problems.(not
>>>> to say we are the cause of all the problems) Think what you want about
>> my
>>>> credibility,my words can stand on there own! This makes them no less true
>>>>
>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dt@noreply.com> wrote:
>>>>> Before you pass judgement, make ill-informed assumptions and become a
>> hypocrit
>>>>> yourself, read the context, ask questions, and attempt to actually understand
>>>>> other people. You just read a single word and extrapolated that into
>> left
>>>>> field.
>>>>>
>>>>> This had nothing to do with race. You might has well launched off a
> diatribe
>>>>> on the problems with meteor storms on Pluto.
>>>>>
>>>>> And in case you were wondering, by "fabric" I meant guts to stand up
> for
>>>>> what you believe in with integrity, honor and respect, but without any
>>> pansy,
>>>>> pacifist whining and hiding behind labels and stereotypes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Btw - posting like this without your real name is cowardly and destroys
>>>> any
>>>>> credibility to your opinion, but at least it supports my argument in
> spades.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Yah" <Blah@ya-ya.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Listen,
>>>>>> My comments are not about the article,I'm not defending the left. I
> just
>>>>>> find the statement "the fabric of are country" to be bullshit. We forget
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> are past and pass judgement on others. This is the self-righteousness
>>> I
>>>>> speak
>>>>>> of. As to why I do not post my name? Because of the self-righteousness
>>>> I
>>>>>> speak
>>>>>> of. Wake up! Clean up your backyard. Playing the race card? It could'nt
>>>>> be
>>>>>> played if racism was'nt true and alive today! You may look at my comments
>>>>>> as detour
>>>>>> into left field,but my comments are directed at your comment about the
>>>> "fabric"
>>>>>> of are country. The truth is almost all the founding fathers were slave
>>>>> owners,and
>>>>>> some only freed their slaves after they died. Now there is one thing
>> I
>>>> agree
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> with you is that this place has gone way down!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> And, btw - I can't believe anyone would even dare to post such racist
>>>>>>> propaganda as this
>
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Tue, 15 January 2008 17:09 |
Sarah
Messages: 608
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;>>>>> I do:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dineshdsouza.com/books/enemy-intro.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Our economy is gonna bounce along the bottom for a while. This
>>>wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary. Now I hear the Democrats starting to harp on the
economy
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>> tie
>>>>>>>>>>>> it ti Iraq. there is, most definitely, a connection.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2007/04/selfless-narcissism.htm l
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and the following excerpt is something I've been ranting about
>>>here
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>> elsewhere for years:
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Democrats and their glorious leaders, who have become so
>>>>>>>>>>>> narcissistically invested in this country's defeat as a political
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> strategy
>>>>>>>>>>>> to accumulate power and "restore American honor", that they
>>>>>>>>>>>> have--wittingly
>>>>>>>>>>>> or unwittingly--decided to sell their countrymen out to the
very
>>>>>enemy
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>> are currently fighting. They mean well, of course. They do it
>>for
>>>>>>those
>>>>>>>>>>>> wonderful 'selfless' reasons--like "peace" and "social justice"
>>>>and
>>>>>>>>all.
>>>>>>>>>>>> They really support the troops .
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's just ignore the fact that they bear considerable responsibility
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the ongoing violence and death of our troops as they enable
and
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> encourage
>>>>>>>>>>>> the priorities of the enemy. Why should the terrorists alter
>their
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> homicidal
>>>>>>>>>>>> behavior? It is working! People like Nancy Pelosi are living
>proof
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> effectiveness of their strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There really is a problem. It's a problem that has been aggravated
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>> encouraged by the left in this country..........you know, the
>>>ones
>>>>>>>>who
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't quite understand that they will be the first to be slaughtered
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>>>> they have thrown a wrench in the gears of those who are willing
>>>>to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> protect
>>>>>>>>>>>> them. They just do not get it. The Islamists parrot the leftist
>>>>American
>>>>>>>>>>>> Imperialist tripe that the leftists love to hear and ascribe
>to
>>>>this
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> country
>>>>>>>>>>>> but the Islamists do it by design, to dupe the left into helping
>>>>>them
>>>>>>>>>>>> destroy the protectors of the culture that the left hopes to
>protect
>>>>>>>>by
>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to appease those who will not be appeased until the leftists
>>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>>> either dead or are kneeling toward Mecca. Once it is too late,
>>>they
>>>>>>>>can
>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>> whine about how pissed off they are that there's no separation
>>>between
>>>>>>>>>>>> mosque and state...right before they are separated from their
>>heads.
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>> recognized it years ago. So did lots of other people.....funny,
>>>>I
>>>>>>didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> hear a peep out of OBama though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK......now I'm of to rape the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> bye.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Look at the facts, use your brains, read the reports. crunch the numbers.
It's not a left or right thing, it's not a concpiracy. Now is the time for
intelligent people to step up to the plate. This is the real challenge of
our generation. The next generations will judge us by this.
Bjorn R
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47e40fb3@linux...
>
> The science is about money. The science of man made global warming being
> a major factor is bullshit, and it is not provable. Has the earth heated
> up a bit, yes, the earth goes threw changes. Should we as people stop
polluting,
> yes. Should we conserve, yes, I'm a conservative, not a liberal. Am I
buying
> in to the liberal's sin tax plan their trying to convince the dummies to
> start paying to save the world, NO WAY! I'm I buying in the this
trilateralist
> plan to shift more money out of the USA, no way! Back in the 70's, the
scientist
> that started this global warming stuff, was predicting that we would be in
> an ice age right now.
>
> You can post all of the contrived research you, it won't change the truth.
> Choose to believe what you want, man made global warming has not been
proven.
>
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
> >
> >Wish it were that easy, James. We would be poor stewards of the land
> >indeed if we carelessly dismissed the evidence to date. It's not
> >particularly prudent to ignore increasing evidence that shows possible
> >problems.
> >
> >The atmosphere and our use of it to store increasing amounts of unwanted
>
> >greenhouse gases is a big enough subject scientifically without being
> >sidetracked by political and economic conspiracy theories.
> >
> >Even if you enjoy discussing perceived conspiracies, be sure you don't
> >confuse them with the ongoing science.
> >
> >Cheers,
> > -Jamie
> > www.JamieKrutz.com
> >
> >
> >James McCloskey wrote:
> >> What we need is waders and a big shovel to get rid of this load of
crap.
>
> >>
> >>
> >> "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>> The humanity is facing it's biggest disaster in 100 000 years. Tax
raises
> >>> won't solve anything, it demand a lot more action than that..
> >>> BR
> >>>
> >>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:47e2cfc2$1@linux...
> >>>> This is what i've been saying. When Al Gore buys global offsets for
> ten
> >>> cents
> >>>> and sells them for a dollar, it's a big bunch of money making
bullshit!
> >>>> Now this trilateralist bureaucrat bunch of SOBs are going to try to
> make
> >>>> it a sin tax that we will all have to pay. You know once the
government
> >>>> gets a tax passed through they will never repeal it. We will be
paying
> >> it
> >>>> for then on! It's a scare tactic to cow the people in to believing
> this
> >>>> bunch of bullshit. There is no significant man made global warming,
> it's
> >>>> a lie to shift the wealth out of the United States while these rats
> and
> >>> their
> >>>> friends get wealthy doing it.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Mr. Simplicity" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
http://blog.mlive.com/annarbornews/2007/09/dingell_global_wa rming_may_req.h
> >>> tml
> >>>>> This is the biggest load of disingenuous hubris I've seen in a
while.
> >>> More
> >>>>> hypocracy. Whether you get it or not, your intelligence has just
been
> >>>>> insulted and be assured that what this is really all about it
preparing
> >>>> you
> >>>>> to be bent over as consumption falls. Expect more of this BS as gas
> usage
> >>>>> goes down and therefore the tax revenue that a gallon of gas
generates
> >> is
> >>>>> proportionately reduced. To make up for the revenue shortfall, we're
> >>> going
> >>>>> to get taxed into oblivion......
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| Re: Let's face it, US public schools system has been failing since [message #94749 is a reply to message #94748] |
Tue, 15 January 2008 18:47 |
John Travolta
Messages: 1
Registered: January 2008
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Junior Member |
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>"yah" <blah@ya-ya.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I'm not Lamont.....Christ dying today could'nt get worse. I never understood
>>>>how
>>>>Christ dying was good,maybe it should have been Sad friday.
>>>
>>>Ok, LaMont usually goes off on the race thing, and he often has type-Os,
>>>my mistake. As far as Christ dyeing on the cross, it is sad, it is also
>>>something to be glad about and celebrate. If you under stood Christianity
>>>you would understand that.
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Do you really want to ruin Good Friday LaMont?
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why don't you start a new thread and we can throw down there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"yah" <Blah@ya-ya.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Why do yoy think that your opinion is the right one? Are you saying
>>that
>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>country
>>>>>>>was'nt built on the backs of slavery? How am I a hypocrite? Ask questions?
>>>>>>>My
>>>>>>>first post was nothing but questions. Having the guts to stand up
for
>>>>>>>what you believe in with integrity, honor and respect, but without
>any
>>>>>pansy,
>>>>>>>pacifist whining and hiding behind labels and stereotypes". are serious?
>>>>>>>Why did it take so long for every man to have the right same rights?
>>>Is'nt
>>>>>>>that something we were suppose to believe in? Honor? respect? Look,do'nt
>>>>>>>get
>>>>>>>made at me or anyone that confronts you with the truth. I love this
>>country
>>>>>>>just as much as you. If I can say that with your permission. But we
>>>>>>>have alot of work to do. We want to blame everyone else for are problems.(not
>>>>>>>to say we are the cause of all the problems) Think what you want about
>>>>>my
>>>>>>>credibility,my words can stand on there own! This makes them no less
>>>true
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dt@noreply.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Before you pass judgement, make ill-informed assumptions and become
>>>a
>>>>>hypocrit
>>>>>>>>yourself, read the context, ask questions, and attempt to actually
>>understand
>>>>>>>>other people. You just read a single word and extrapolated that
into
>>>>>left
>>>>>>>>field.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This had nothing to do with race. You might has well launched off
>>a
>>>>diatribe
>>>>>>>>on the problems with meteor storms on Pluto.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And in case you were wondering, by "fabric" I meant guts to stand
>up
>>>>for
>>>>>>>>what you believe in with integrity, honor and respect, but without
>>any
>>>>>>pansy,
>>>>>>>>pacifist whining and hiding behind labels and stereotypes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Btw - posting like this without your real name is cowardly and destroys
>>>>>>>any
>>>>>>>>credibility to your opinion, but at least it supports my argument
>in
>>>>spades.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Yah" <Blah@ya-ya.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Listen,
>>>>>>>>>My comments are not about the article,I'm not defending the left.
>>I
>>>>just
>>>>>>>>>find the statement "the fabric of are country" to be bullshit. We
>>forget
>>>>>>>>>about
>>>>>>>>>are past and pass judgement on others. This is the self-righteousness
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>speak
>>>>>>>>>of. As to why I do not post my name? Because of the self-righteousness
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>speak
>>>>>>>>>of. Wake up! Clean up your backyard. Playing the race card? It could'nt
>>>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>>played if racism was'nt true and alive today! You may look at my
>>comments
>>>>>>>>>as detour
>>>>>>>>>into left field,but my comments are directed at your comment about
>>>the
>>>>>>>"fabric"
>>>>>>>>>of are country. The truth is almost all the founding fathers were
>>slave
>>>>>>>>owners,and
>>>>>>>>>some only freed their slaves after they died. Now there is one thing
>>>>>I
>>>>>>>agree
>>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>with you is that this place has gone way down!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>And, btw - I can't believe anyone would even dare to post such
racist
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>propaganda as this
>>>>>>>>>>(and that's exactly what it is) when the original post was on radical
>>>>>>>islam,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>not slavery. Simply amazing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>This forum really has lost it. I'm out. I've really had enough
>>of
>>>>>these
>>>>>>>>>>far fetched bizarre reactions and detours into left field.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"YAH" <bla-bla@yah.com> wrote in message news:47e3dde1$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The fabric of are nation? What is that? Salvery? segragation?
>>racisim?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> KKK?
>>>>>>>>>>> self-righteousness!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>I've heard two separate commentaries (one a major news agency,
>>the
>>>>>>other
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>Brit's personal rant) about how the UK is catering to the whims
>>>of
>>>>>>Islam
>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>they've restricted the use of the Three Little Pigs story in
some
>>>>>schools.
>>>>>>>>>>>>England is funding Islamic schools for their Muslim citizens.
>
>>They
>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>>>considering passing Islamic laws in some areas to appease that
>>community
>>>>>>>>>>>>(these were echoed in both, separate and independent commentaries
>>>>>-
>>>>>>>two
>>>>>>>>>>>>completely different viewpoints seeing the same thing happen).
>>
>>>In
>>>>>>effect,
>>>>>>>>>>>>the UK is making concessions right and left and getting nothing
>>>in
>>>>>>return
>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>just more demands. Forget their own history, people and culture,
>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>give
>>>>>>>>>>>>up in the face of fear of suicide bombers, sarin gas, and extremist
>>>>>>>>>>>>protests.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>The news agency report basically said exactly what you are DJ
>-
>>>the
>>>>>>>US
>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>>doing the same thing - bowing down and letting our "pacifist"
>leftwing
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>veil
>>>>>>>>>>>>of "peace" and "equality" and "justice" dupe us into giving up
>>those
>>>>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>>>>ideals, playing right into the hands of extremism and even terrorism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>That's the paradox that's become our country. And this is just
>>>one
>>>>>>>case
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>how the left is ironically proposing and touting exactly the
opposite
>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>what is the fabric of our country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>DT
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>On 3/21/08 7:49 AM, in article 47e3bffd@linux, "Mr. Simplicity"
>>>>>>>>>>>><noway@jose.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't this cute?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://markhumphrys.com/left.islamic.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This one is the kicker though, and elucidates my periodic rants
>>>>>better
>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dineshdsouza.com/books/enemy-intro.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our economy is gonna bounce along the bottom for a while. This
>>>>wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary. Now I hear the Democrats starting to harp on the
>economy
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>> tie
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it ti Iraq. there is, most definitely, a connection.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2007/04/selfless-narcissism.htm l
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the following excerpt is something I've been ranting about
>>>>here
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> elsewhere for years:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Democrats and their glorious leaders, who have become so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> narcissistically invested in this country's defeat as a political
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> strategy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to accumulate power and "restore American honor", that they
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have--wittingly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or unwittingly--decided to sell their countrymen out to the
>very
>>>>>>enemy
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are currently fighting. They mean well, of course. They do
it
>>>for
>>>>>>>those
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wonderful 'selfless' reasons--like "peace" and "social justice"
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They really support the troops .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's just ignore the fact that they bear considerable responsibility
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ongoing violence and death of our troops as they enable
>and
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> encourage
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the priorities of the enemy. Why should the terrorists alter
>>their
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> homicidal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> behavior? It is working! People like Nancy Pelosi are living
>>proof
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> effectiveness of their strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There really is a problem. It's a problem that has been aggravated
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> encouraged by the left in this country..........you know,
the
>>>>ones
>>>>>>>>>who
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't quite understand that they will be the first to be slaughtered
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have thrown a wrench in the gears of those who are willing
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> protect
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. They just do not get it. The Islamists parrot the leftist
>>>>>American
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Imperialist tripe that the leftists love to hear and ascribe
>>to
>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> country
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the Islamists do it by design, to dupe the left into helping
>>>>>>them
>>>>>>>>>>>>> destroy the protectors of the culture that the left hopes to
>>protect
>>>>>>>>>by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to appease those who will not be appeased until the
leftists
>>>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> either dead or are kneeling toward Mecca. Once it is too late,
>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>can
>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whine about how pissed off they are that there's no separation
>>>>between
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mosque and state...right before they are separated from their
>>>heads.
>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recognized it years ago. So did lots of other people.....funny,
>>>>>I
>>>>>>>didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hear a peep out of OBama though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK......now I'm of to rape the land.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bye.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>If you repeat something enough times it becomes the truth to some people.
Where is the proof? the European space agency has been photographing the
polar caps from satellites for years, they say the caps are melting, and
then they re freeze and are staying the same over all mass. There is evidence
that proves otherwise.
"BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>Look at the facts, use your brains, read the reports. crunch the numbers.
>It's not a left or right thing, it's not a concpiracy. Now is the time for
>intelligent people to step up to the plate. This is the real challenge of
>our generation. The next generations will judge us by this.
>
>Bjorn R
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:47e40fb3@linux...
>>
>> The science is about money. The science of m
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| Re: Let's face it, US public schools system has been failing since the 70's. [message #94750 is a reply to message #94747] |
Tue, 15 January 2008 17:39 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
|
Senior Member |
|
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an made global warming being
>> a major factor is bullshit, and it is not provable. Has the earth heated
>> up a bit, yes, the earth goes threw changes. Should we as people stop
>polluting,
>> yes. Should we conserve, yes, I'm a conservative, not a liberal. Am
I
>buying
>> in to the liberal's sin tax plan their trying to convince the dummies
to
>> start paying to save the world, NO WAY! I'm I buying in the this
>trilateralist
>> plan to shift more money out of the USA, no way! Back in the 70's, the
>scientist
>> that started this global warming stuff, was predicting that we would be
in
>> an ice age right now.
>>
>> You can post all of the contrived research you, it won't change the truth.
>> Choose to believe what you want, man made global warming has not been
>proven.
>>
>>
>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Wish it were that easy, James. We would be poor stewards of the land
>> >indeed if we carelessly dismissed the evidence to date. It's not
>> >particularly prudent to ignore increasing evidence that shows possible
>> >problems.
>> >
>> >The atmosphere and our use of it to store increasing amounts of unwanted
>>
>> >greenhouse gases is a big enough subject scientifically without being
>> >sidetracked by political and economic conspiracy theories.
>> >
>> >Even if you enjoy discussing perceived conspiracies, be sure you don't
>> >confuse them with the ongoing science.
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> > -Jamie
>> > www.JamieKrutz.com
>> >
>> >
>> >James McCloskey wrote:
>> >> What we need is waders and a big shovel to get rid of this load of
>crap.
>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >>> The humanity is facing it's biggest disaster in 100 000 years. Tax
>raises
>> >>> won't solve anything, it demand a lot more action than that..
>> >>> BR
>> >>>
>> >>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:47e2cfc2$1@linux...
>> >>>> This is what i've been saying. When Al Gore buys global offsets
for
>> ten
>> >>> cents
>> >>>> and sells them for a dollar, it's a big bunch of money making
>bullshit!
>> >>>> Now this trilateralist bureaucrat bunch of SOBs are going to try
to
>> make
>> >>>> it a sin tax that we will all have to pay. You know once the
>government
>> >>>> gets a tax passed through they will never repeal it. We will be
>paying
>> >> it
>> >>>> for then on! It's a scare tactic to cow the people in to believing
>> this
>> >>>> bunch of bullshit. There is no significant man made global warming,
>> it's
>> >>>> a lie to shift the wealth out of the United States while these rats
>> and
>> >>> their
>> >>>> friends get wealthy doing it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Mr. Simplicity" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
> http://blog.mlive.com/annarbornews/2007/09/dingell_global_wa rming_may_req.h
>> >>> tml
>> >>>>> This is the biggest load of disingenuous hubris I've seen in a
>while.
>> >>> More
>> >>>>> hypocracy. Whether you get it or not, your intelligence has just
>been
>> >>>>> insulted and be assured that what this is really all about it
>preparing
>> >>>> you
>> >>>>> to be bent over as consumption falls. Expect more of this BS as
gas
>> usage
>> >>>>> goes down and therefore the tax revenue that a gallon of gas
>generates
>> >> is
>> >>>>> proportionately reduced. To make up for the revenue shortfall, we're
>> >>> going
>> >>>>> to get taxed into oblivion........and I was even sorta' thinking
>about
>> >>>>> voting for a Democrat for president. The new forumla for the
>American
>> >>>>> economy is to tax businesses more so that they will continue to
go
>> >>> elsewhere
>> >>>>> while screwing the workers who will be losing their jobs.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Gimme some of that.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
>
>James McCloskey wrote:
> The science is about money.
To an extent everything is about money. But that doesn't stop people
from doing good, conscientious work.
You yourself require money to live. Should we therefore disbelieve
everything you say?
No, I don't think so. That argument is really reaching.
> The science of man made global warming being
> a major factor is bullshit, and it is not provable.
LOL. The science is hardly bullshit.
What scientists are saying is that there is a strong chance that human
contributions to greenhouse gases are affecting the climate.
This is because we are dumping large and increasing amounts of
greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, above and beyond current natural
cycles. Gases that then stay in the atmosphere for extended periods,
decades or more.
Keep in mind that greenhouse gases help regulate temperature on earth by
reflecting back infrared radiation. This is a good thing for our
survival but it can be overdone.
Since only a tiny fraction of the gases in the atmosphere reflect
infrared radiation (nitrogen and oxygen don't), it doesn't take much of
an increase in greenhouse gases to noticeably change the amount of heat
directed back toward the earth.
There is strong evidence that this is what is happening now, and that
our contributions are part of the problem. Based on what we know so far
there is a strong chance this problem will increase over time.
Given that information, it's smart to consider the implications now.
> Has the earth heated
> up a bit, yes, the earth goes threw changes.
True, and true.
And evidence indicates there's a good chance we're involved in the
current climate change event.
> Should we as people stop polluting,
> yes.
We certainly need to be aware of the chemistry around us and how we
interact with it.
The ozone situation is a good example. Scientists noticed a change in
the ozone layer. A human chemical cause was discovered. Policies were
changed to stop human contributions to the problem.
> Should we conserve, yes, I'm a conservative, not a liberal.
Great.
To conserve what we have we need to take into account any evidence that
shows we may have a problem.
BTW climate change and conservation are not a partisan issues, in my
view. At the very least, most people don't want to screw up the area
where they live, no matter their politics.
> Am I buying
> in to the liberal's sin tax plan their trying to convince the dummies to
> start paying to save the world, NO WAY!
That's fine. But don't confuse any perceived conspiracies with ongoing
climate science.
You can promote your political views without attacking climate
scientists or dismissing scientific conclusions.
> I'm I buying in the this trilateralist
> plan to shift more money out of the USA, no way!
That's fine. But again you can promote your political views without
attacking climate scientists or dismissing scientific conclusions.
> Back in the 70's, the scientist
> that started this global warming stuff, was predicting that we would be in
> an ice age right now.
Who are you talking about?
> You can post all of the contrived research you, it won't change the truth.
> Choose to believe what you want, man made global warming has not been proven.
If someone is exploiting scientific data in a partisan way to push a
certain point of view you happen to disagree with, then fine, argue with
them.
But don't pretend the data itself doesn't exist. There is a lot of
peer-reviewed research out there, and it isn't "contrived."
If the only way to "prove" your point is to continue a risky worldwide
experiment until we possibly screw up the planet for future generations,
then your proof is too late to be in any way useful.
It's much smarter to look at the decades of evidence we already have and
make prudent risk management decisions.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> Wish it were that easy, James. We would be poor stewards of the land
>> indeed if we carelessly dismissed the evidence to date. It's not
>> particularly prudent to ignore increasing evidence that shows possible
>> problems.
>>
>> The atmosphere and our use of it to store increasing amounts of unwanted
>
>> greenhouse gases is a big enough subject scientifically without being
>> sidetracked by political and economic conspiracy theories.
>>
>> Even if you enjoy discussing perceived conspiracies, be sure you don't
>> confuse them with the ongoing science.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> James McCloskey wrote:
>>> What we need is waders and a big shovel to get rid of this load of crap.
>
>>>
>>> "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>> The humanity is facing it's biggest disaster in 100 000 years. Tax raises
>>>> won't solve anything, it demand a lot more action than that..
>>>> BR
>>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:47e2cfc2$1@linux...
>>>>> This is what i've been saying. When Al Gore buys global offsets for
> ten
>>>> cents
>>>>> and sells them for a dollar, it's a big bunch of money making bullshit!
>>>>> Now this trilateralist bureaucrat bunch of SOBs are going to try to
> make
>>>>> it a sin tax that we will all have to pay. You know once the government
>>>>> gets a tax passed through they will never repeal it. We will be paying
>>> it
>>>>> for then on! It's a scare tactic to cow the people in to believing
> this
>>>>> bunch of bullshit. There is no significant man made global warming,
> it's
>>>>> a lie to shift the wealth out of the United States while these rats
> and
>>>> their
>>>>> friends get wealthy doing it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mr. Simplicity" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Report message to a moderator
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| Re: Let's face it, US public schools system has been failing since [message #94757 is a reply to message #94754] |
Wed, 16 January 2008 00:20 |
Tom
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ords of some. (not spoken here but lets be
>honest out in the real world you can't swing a dead cat and not hit
>someone who is willing to tell you that hell, hades, sheol is your
>final destination.
>
>On 22 Mar 2008 02:42:44 +1000, "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
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>>
>>Rick, there's some good insights here. How God works is not
>>always transparent to us.
>
>see, now that's where i think the problem lies. god should know that
>we're not going to get the message as he wants us to because we're
>human and will translate anything to our own advantage. of all the
>things to deserve eternal damnation for (if you believe in it) one
>would think that the inability to "get it" would not be one of them.
>
>would you as a parent condemn your child to a never ending life of
>torment simply because he or she couldn't understand the totality of
>you being "the creator (parent)" of them. you know, it can take only
>one gene to make someone either a murderer, saint and everything in
>between. so to me a loving, just and forgiving god would have a
>better plan then eternal suffering. we on the other hand are more
>than willing to threaten and
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| Re: Let's face it, US public schools system has been failing since [message #94830 is a reply to message #94807] |
Thu, 17 January 2008 13:28 |
Bill L
Messages: 766
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xcite.com/article/20080321/D8VI2UN0H.html" target="_blank">http://apnews.excite.com/article/20080321/D8VI2UN0H.htmlThe Bull-shit American History I'm talking about is the one that was "taught"
in most US schools..Which just happend to leave out and omit certain truths..
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>What Bullshit American history do you speak of?
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Sorry about they typos. I'm on my treo.
>>
>>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>James, what is the race thing?Really? What is the race thing. ?? I think
>>you
>>>come in here daily, I might add, with your right-winged off the wall,
bull-shit
>>>,rhetoric...Please stop posting such BS!@# and doe yourself a favor a
nd
>>>study up on REAL AMERICAN HISTORY, not that Bull-shit you think you now
>>and
>>>was taught in school...
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"yah" <blah@ya-ya.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not Lamont.....Christ dying today could'nt get worse. I never understood
>>>>>how
>>>>>Christ dying was good,maybe it should have been Sad friday.
>>>>
>>>>Ok, LaMont usually goes off on the race thing, and he often has type-Os,
>>>>my mistake. As far as Christ dyeing on the cross, it is sad, it is
also
>>>>something to be glad about and celebrate. If you under stood Christianity
>>>>you would understand that.
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Do you really want to ruin Go
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| Re: Let's face it, US public schools system has been failing sincethe 70's. [message #94878 is a reply to message #94706] |
Fri, 18 January 2008 13:40 |
JeffH
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
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drsanity.blogspot.com/2007/04/selfless-narcissism.html" target="_blank"> http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2007/04/selfless-narcissism.htm l
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and the following excerpt is something I've been ranting about
here
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>> elsewhere for years:
>>>>>>>>> The Democrats and their glorious leaders, who have become so
>>>>>>>>> narcissistically invested in this country's defeat as a political
>>>
>>>>>>>>> strategy
>>>>>>>>> to accumulate power and "restore American honor", that they
>>>>>>>>> have--wittingly
>>>>>>>>> or unwittingly--decided to sell their countrymen out to the very
>>enemy
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> are currently fighting. They mean well, of course. They do it for
>>>those
>>>>>>>>> wonderful 'selfless' reasons--like "peace" and "social justice"
>and
>>>>>all.
>>>>>>>>> They really support the troops .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let's just ignore the fact that they bear considerable responsibility
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the ongoing violence and death of our troops as they enable and
>
>>>>>>>>> encourage
>>>>>>>>> the priorities of the enemy. Why should the terrorists alter their
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> homicidal
>>>>>>>>> behavior? It is working! People like Nancy Pelosi are living proof
>>>>of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> effectiveness of their strategy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There really is a problem. It's a problem that has been aggravated
>>>>and
>>>>>>>>> encouraged by the left in this country..........you know, the
ones
>>>>>who
>>>>>>>>> don't quite understand that they will be the first to be slaughtered
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>> they have thrown a wrench in the gears of those who are willing
>to
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> protect
>>>>>>>>> them. They just do not get it. The Islamists parrot the leftist
>American
>>>>>>>>> Imperialist tripe that the leftists love to hear and ascribe to
>this
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> country
>>>>>>>>> but the Islamists do it by design, to dupe the left into helping
>>them
>>>>>>>>> destroy the protectors of the culture that the left hopes to protect
>>>>>by
>>>>>>>>> trying to appease those who will not be appeased until the leftists
>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>> either dead or are kneeling toward Mecca. Once it is too late,
they
>>>>>can
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> whine about how pissed off they are that there's no separation
between
>>>>>>>>> mosque and state...right before they are separated from their heads.
>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>> recognized it years ago. So did lots of other people.....funny,
>I
>>>didn't
>>>>>>>>> hear a peep out of OBama though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK......now I'm of to rape the land.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bye.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>I'm sure Kim will weigh in with another reminder about where to post what.
There's no real reason to start political threads here at all. Just post
'em in the General group to begin with, no notice needed. Anyone here
who is interesting in the discussion will find them there.
Recently saw two useful rules for getting along in forums:
-Thou shalt not post something intended to offend.
-Thou shalt not be easily offended.
Words of wisdom...
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Mr. Simplicity wrote:
> Yes. I am in favor of this. I think that's sort'a the way Kim had this
> figured and I am one of the worst about straying OT.
>
> I was out of line.
>
>
> "Neil" <OIOI@OI.com> wrote in message news:47e56e2c$1@linux...
>> Look, what if we all make a rule... ONLY music-related stuff
>> on this section of the NG? Granted, if we made it Paris-only
>> topics at this point, there'd be like two posts per week, but
>> what if we just said: "anything music-related is cool - all
>> other stuff is off-limits", and if someone wants to rant about
>> global cooling they can place ONE post here that simply says
>> something like "I'm ranting about global cooling over on the
>> general group if anyone wants to join in" - ONE post only, no
>> responses allowed on this section.
>>
>> Whaddya think?
>>
>> ???
>>
>> Anyone in favor?
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mr. Simplicity" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message =
>>> news:47e5678b$1@linux...
>>>> =20
>>>> Mr. Simplicity wrote:
>>>>> I deserve to die.
>>>> =20
>>>> That's easy enough Deej, when the next "must have or you will die!!" =
>>> toy=20
>>>> comes along, just don't buy it. ;^)
>>>> =20
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>> I'm really sorry that my posts have led to some folks getting outright =
>>> offended and wanting to leave this group. I'm not saying that I disavow
>> =
>>> my thinking on these issues, but I did make a mistake posting them here.
>> =
>>> I use Outlook Express to access this group and for some reason, I can =
>>> get the General group to work on my computer. There comes a time, =
>>> especially with this group of folks, whom I really cherish dispite my =
>>> argumentative nature and curmudgeonliness, that the feelings of others,
>> =
>>> to me, far outweighs my need to express my opinions and stir the pot. I
>> =
>>> am as passionate about my beliefs as are others with whom I disagree and
>> =
>>> I feel like I owe those who come here for camaradery and some relief =
>> >from the insanity of these times, some major respect, as one of our wise
>> =
>>> bretheren often mentions. I am sorry that he is leaving and IMO, his =
>>> presence here is much more important to me and to this group than my =
>>> opinions and rantings.
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>> <HTML><HEAD>
>>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16608" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>> <STYLE></STYLE>
>>> </HEAD>
>>> <BODY>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Jamie K" <</FONT><A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:Meta@Dimensional.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>> size=3D2>Meta@Dimensional.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> =
>>> wrote in=20
>>> message </FONT><A href=3D"news:47e5678b$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>> size=3D2>news:47e5678b$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
>>> size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> Mr. Simplicity =
>>> wrote:<BR>>> I=20
>>> deserve to die.<BR>> <BR>> That's easy enough Deej, when the next =
>>> "must=20
>>> have or you will die!!" toy <BR>> comes along, just don't buy it. =
>>> ;^)<BR>>=20
>>> <BR>> Cheers,<BR>> -Jamie<BR>> </FONT><A=20
>>> href=3D"http://www.JamieKrutz.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>> size=3D2>www.JamieKrutz.com</FONT></A><BR></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm really sorry that my posts have led
>> =
>>> to some=20
>>> folks getting outright offended and wanting to leave this group. I'm not
>> =
>>> saying=20
>>> that I disavow my thinking on these issues, but I did make a mistake =
>>> posting=20
>>> them here. I use Outlook Express to access this group and for some =
>>> reason, I can=20
>>> get the General group to work on my computer. There comes a time, =
>>> especially=20
>>> with this group of folks, whom I really cherish dispite my argumentative
>> =
>>> nature=20
>>> and curmudgeonliness, that the feelings of others, to me, far outweighs
>> =
>>> my need=20
>>> to express my opinions and stir the pot. I am as passionate about my =
>>> beliefs as=20
>>> are others with whom I disagree and I feel like I owe those who come =
>>> here for=20
>>> camaradery and some relief from the insanity of these times, some major=20
>>> <EM>respect,</EM> as one of our wise bretheren often mentions. I am =
>>> sorry that=20
>>> he is leaving and IMO, his presence here is much more important to me =
>>> and to=20
>>> this group than my opinions and rantings.</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>
>>>
>
>Deej, don't blame yourself, it was somebody else that threw the racism Molotov
cocktail on the NG.
"Mr. Simplicity" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message =
>news:47e5678b$1@linux...
>>=20
>> Mr. Simplicity wrote:
>>> I deserve to die.
>>=20
>> That's easy enough Deej, when the next "must have or you will die!!" =
>toy=20
>> comes along, just don't buy it. ;^)
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>I'm really sorry that my posts have led to some folks getting outright =
>offended and wanting to leave this group. I'm not saying that I disavow
=
>my thinking on these issues, but I did make a mistake posting them here.
=
>I use Outlook Express to access this group and for some reason, I can =
>get the General group to work on my computer. There comes a time, =
>especially with this group of folks, whom I really cherish dispite my =
>argumentative nature and curmudgeonliness, that the feelings of others,
=
>to me, far outweighs my need to express my opinions and stir the pot. I
=
>am as passionate about my beli
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