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Deej [1]
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> >> >>>I have a bass track that this band I'm recording is happy with
> >> >>>the sound of, but I personally think sucks... OK, maybe I
> >> >>>should say it a different way: "They like it, but I think they
> >> >>>might like it even better if I could improve upon it :D
> >> >>>How's that for politically correct? lol
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Anyway, I'm thinking about reamping it or maybe Sans-amp-ing it,
> >> >>>but here's my question: If I pick up a Bass Sansamp, I know the
> >> >>>input isn't designed for line-level stuff, so if I run the
> >> >>>signal out of a line-level out on my convertors, then through a
> >> >>>mic pre that also has a line-level input and also an output
> >> >>>level control (of which I have a few), can I just feed a very
> >> >>>low level out of the preamp into the Sansamp input, or will I
> >> >>>run into impedance issues with this method?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Reamping's no problem - I can easily rig that up, so if this
> >> >>>other option doesn't work, I can always fall back on that, but
> >> >>>for another choice, would a Sansamp box work in this instance?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Problem is "Farty distortion", BTW. It may take a re-tracking
> >> >>>with a better input chain than the bass player's Carvin head
> >> >>>line-out jack, but I want to at least investigate other options
> >> >>>first. Worst bass sound I ever permitted to go to track... how's
> >> >>>that for an achievement? lol Totally my fault, though -
> >> >>>despite the band insisting they liked it, I should have at
> >> >>>least taken a direct feed though a preamp or direct box on
> >> >>>another channel, as well.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>N
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| Re: Well.........damn!!!.....this sucks....... [message #67624 is a reply to message #67623] |
Wed, 03 May 2006 20:38 |
Deej [1]
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gt;>>I have a bass track that this band I'm recording is happy with
>> >> >>>the sound of, but I personally think sucks... OK, maybe I
>> >> >>>should say it a different way: "They like it, but I think they
>> >> >>>might like it even better if I could improve upon it :D
>> >> >>>How's that for politically correct? lol
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Anyway, I'm thinking about reamping it or maybe Sans-amp-ing it,
>> >> >>>but here's my question: If I pick up a Bass Sansamp, I know the
>> >> >>>input isn't designed for line-level stuff, so if I run the
>> >> >>>signal out of a line-level out on my convertors, then through a
>> >> >>>mic pre that also has a line-level input and also an output
>> >> >>>level control (of which I have a few), can I just feed a very
>> >> >>>low level out of the preamp into the Sansamp input, or will I
>> >> >>>run into impedance issues with this method?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Reamping's no problem - I can easily rig that up, so if this
>> >> >>>other option doesn't work, I can always fall back on that, but
>> >> >>>for another choice, would a Sansamp box work in this instance?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Problem is "Farty distortion", BTW. It may take a re-tracking
>> >> >>>with a better input chain than the bass player's Carvin head
>> >> >>>line-out jack, but I want to at least investigate other options
>> >> >>>first. Worst bass sound I ever permitted to go to track... how's
>> >> >>>that for an achievement? lol Totally my fault, though -
>> >> >>>despite the band insisting they liked it, I should have at
>> >> >>>least taken a direct feed though a preamp or direct box on
>> >> >>>another channel, as well.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Neil
>> >> >>>
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>I'm on page 5 so far but it looks well thought out from scanning it. Chris
at vexpressionsltd.com is amazing. He sold me some presets that make this
thing awesome. The stock presets blow. I mean REALLY BLOW. Plus Chris
knows the box inside out so I can ask him anything. Very cool cat. And
there's the www.vdrums.com forum too. You gotta get one now!!! You'll need
about 1000 sq ft just to open all the boxes. You have to supply your own
kick pedal(get the double kick from yamaha), a second plastic beater, a snare
and hi hat stand, a compact flash card, a CF reader and the presets from
Chris (i bought $200 worth and he gave me exactly what I asked for, listen
to the demos then email him). You'll rock on !
John
John
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Cool man. Is the Roland manual fairly easy to grok. Last Roland product
I
>owned had a manual that reminded me of a military tech sheet.
>
>Enjoy
>
>;OP
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>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44758fad$1@linux...
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>> DJ, you need this, It's freaking sweet. Get it from RMCAudio.com and
>with
>> double kick and two plastic beaters. $4700 will get you going plus $60
>for
>> the compact flash from staples and $100 or so for all the drum presets
>you'll
>> want.
>>
>> http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLTD20SBK
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>Congrats T! I don't follow the show but just read that your guy won.
Excellent.
Somehow Paris must have played a small part in his victory, right???
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:13:11 -0600, "T.Rossi"
<t.rossi@NOSPAMearthlink.netNOSPAM> wrote:
>Hi all,
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>Haven't been around here much in the last year or so.
>Glad to see that the Paris community is still alive and well.
>
>Anyway, there's a guy on American Idol this year that I used
>to work with quite a bit.
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| Re: Well.........damn!!!.....this sucks....... [message #67629 is a reply to message #67624] |
Wed, 03 May 2006 22:56 |
RZ
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gt;
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
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>>>>Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks 2002 on my internet
>>>>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
>>>>
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>ran
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>>>>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no longer
>>>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
>>>>
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>of
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>>>>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to switch
>>>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>>>
>>>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
>>>>
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>I've
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>>>>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>>>Rod
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>>hey,<br>
>>is this stuff superior to AVG?<br>
>>j<br>
>><br>
>>TCB wrote:
>><blockquote cite="mid44737517$1@linux" type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install
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>Ubuntu on
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>>it. BY
>>FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through some hoops for
>>some kinds of media playback.
>>
>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as an
>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free as in
>>beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's GPL'd). The downside
>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell it
>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it on
>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router. I
>>think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
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>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
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>you
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>>did.
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>>TCB
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>>"Rod Lincoln" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com></a>
>>wrote:
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks 2002
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>on my internet
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>>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription ran
>>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no longer
>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some of
>>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to switch
>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>
>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think I've
>>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>Rod
>> </pre>
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thanks. I agree about Norton. It's raped my system before, then I found
a little app that finds all the Norton entries and files and gets rid
of them, which sure saved some head aches.<br>
j<br>
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TCB wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid4474552d$1@linux" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">AVG is roughly on par with AntiVir, and is a similar licensing scheme. They
have a free (as in beer) version and a pay version. Clamwin is actually free
(as in libre or speech) software, source code and all. I'd say all three
work at least as well as the pay software and I'd take any one over Norton.
TCB
jef knight <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com"><thestudio@allknightmusic.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">hey,
is this stuff superior to AVG?
j
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| Re: Well.........damn!!!.....this sucks....... [message #67655 is a reply to message #67629] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 06:48 |
Deej [1]
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"mic" =
&=20
"vocal" & "preamp" - all the usual<BR>stuff - and I find an=20
interview where he said for lead vox<BR>they usually use a Sanken =
CU-44x;=20
shit, that's a $2,300 mic - I<BR>can't be buying one of THOSE just for =
this=20
project, but it's<BR>also not a tube mic.... hmmm..... it also said =
they used=20
a Tube-<BR>Tech MP1A mic pre and a Neve 1173 for EQ going to track, =
and=20
an<BR>1176 for compression.<BR><BR>So with several non-tube LDC's to =
choose=20
from here (although<BR>every voice is different, and I think one of my =
tube=20
mics<BR>would've gotten this particular guy closer), and with a =
tube<BR>preamp=20
that also has EQ going to track (the 737), and with<BR>a VERY =
versatile=20
compressor in the Distressor, I think there's<BR>a pretty good chance =
that=20
after some dicking around with various<BR>settings, we could've gotten =
this=20
guy right in the ballpark<BR>going to track - despite not having the =
exact=20
same signal<BR>chain, having some similar elements therein can often=20
get<BR>you close - if he had just mentioned this specific Korn =
track<BR>or=20
specific vocal tone earlier. ARRRGH! Now it's going to be a<BR>matter =
of=20
having to try to get there with plugin's.<BR><BR>Neil</BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
and=20
you?<BR><A=20
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------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C68187.7F4CDE70--Hi to All...
For those who use FXpansion3 and nudge with their audio tracks you can use
the following nudge and ommit the sampleslide plugin ...
3x 100 (3x 4480 =13440)
1x 50 (1x 2240 = 2240)
1x 10 (1x 480 = 480)
1x 5 (1x 240 = 240)
So the total is 13440+2240+480+240= 16400
That is 17 samples away from 16383 for normal UAD1 plug and only 4 samples
for a Pultec Uad1 plugin
Even 17 samples is not much for a latency to need sampleslide because you
can nudge ALL your drumtracks (the ones not using actually a UAD1 plugin
with UAD plugin compensator)
Hope this will help even someone out there...
Regards,
DimitriosThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Ab,
Very nice! Loved it all. Nice analog tape sound too.
Those were the good old days huh?!~!
Tom
"Ab" <ab.vangoor@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message news:44783079$1@linux...
Oh, the guy on LV and drums well...that's me.
"Ab" <ab.vangoor@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
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>I hope you don't mind me sharing this with you.=20
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DQW_6iwi1Zs0&search=3Derwin% 20musper=20
>Our first hitsingle in the Netherlands when we still had hair.
>The guy on Fender rhodes is Erwin Musper who nowadays owns a studio =
in Cincinnati.
>http://www.studiothebambooroom.com/
>Shortly I came back in contact with him and we decided to do some new =
stuff
>on
>which I'm working now. I guess some relationships never end, no =
matter the
>distance.
>
>Greetings,
>
>Ab
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Very nice! Loved it all. =
Nice analog=20
tape sound too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Those were the good old days =
huh?!~!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:ab.vangoor@wanadoo.fr">ab.vangoor@wanadoo.fr</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
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href=3D"news:44783079$1@linux">news:44783079$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Oh, =
the guy=20
on LV and drums well...that's me.<BR><BR><BR>"Ab" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:ab.vangoor@wanadoo.fr">ab.vangoor@wanadoo.fr</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>I hope you don't mind me sharing this with you.=20
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<BR>>http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DQW_6iwi1Zs0&search=3Derwin%20mus=
per=20
<BR>>Our first hitsingle in the Netherlands when we still had=20
hair.<BR>>The guy on Fender rhodes is Erwin Musper who nowadays =
owns a=20
studio in=20
Cincinnati.<BR>>http://www.studiothebambooroom.com/<BR>>Shortly =
I came=20
back in contact with him and we decided to do some new=20
stuff<BR>>on<BR>>which I'm working now. I guess some =
relationships never=20
end, no matter=20
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the<BR>>distance.<BR>><BR>>Greetings, <BR>><BR>>Ab<BR></BLO=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
and=20
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href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html"><
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| Re: Well.........damn!!!.....this sucks....... [message #67659 is a reply to message #67622] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 07:31 |
EK Sound
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e, each card can be bought for around 900$-1000-1100$
used and with three cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!
Ok back to reality...
One Pulsar card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using some
great plugins as I mentioned.
The same card can be configured for a synth recording platforma...
I am happy to say more if I see anyone interested...
Regards,
DimitriosNeil, I found it to be uneven in respect to if I played the bass up and down
the next at the same volume the sansamp did not reproduce that. On the SVPCL
it did, very evenely. Regarding interpreting the dynamics, I didn't get
much of that feedback at all.
I always played the sansamp on full blend and full output and could never
get a solid -10db even with active electronics. Maybe I DID have a bad one.
Just one bad capacitor could have hosed it up.hurry, i gotta pee
Rob Arsenault" <mani2@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>Yes DC, please do share...!!
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>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:4477dc50$1@linux...
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>> Hey all,
>>
>> I am discovering some *amazing* stuff trying a multiband
>> split/compressor in Paris. THANK YOU to Sakis and Deej for the
>> help with this.
>>
>> More to follow, but I am getting results, on very familiar material
>> that are just making me grin from ear to ear...
>>
>> As soon as I get this live disc out the door I will post the details.
>>
>> Paris lives!
>>
>> DC
>>
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>Hey DJ,
This is what I use here...
LV61S:
http://www.canare.com/index.cfm?objectid=0D01B44F-3048-7098- AF1C088D26068A8A
BCP Plugs:
http://www.canare.com/index.cfm?objectid=7222AEAE-3048-7098- AF30E16BAE049F58
AES Cable (110 Ohm):
http://www.canare.com/index.cfm?objectid=EDD1B80A-3048-7098- AFD22323EAB88532
I get great results with the LV61S coax for word clock and SPDIF. The
only thing is, you wi
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Thu, 04 May 2006 20:03 |
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