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size=3D3D2>scsi cable to any of my three new=20
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one=3D20<BR>>interface at a=20
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| Re: Would someone please explain direct monitoring? [message #89563 is a reply to message #89560] |
Sun, 09 September 2007 14:13 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
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;oD
>hey...all societies have elevators of one kind or another..rock
on...sort of.
On 13 Oct 2007 06:16:51 +1000, "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net>
wrote:
>
>Let's see... The therapy that my son needs for his assorted LD issues (that
>our insurance does NOT pay for, of course... but that's a whole 'nother
>topic.) comes to about $10,000. I'd be willing to forgo the Smooth Jazz
>version of "Seasons in the Sun" for that! Of course, this is just the beginning.
> Maybe I should hold out for more!
>
>Gantt
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>How much would it take to talk you out of it??
>>
>>yipes
>>
>>DC
>>
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>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>I used to work in the repair shop of our local music store (Washington
>Music
>>>Center)
>>>with a bunch of 20-something guys, one of whom was into bands like Slayer.
>>> He gave me no end of grief when he foound out that I had once been in
>a
>>>band that played "We Had Joy, We Had Fun, We Had Seasons in the Sun..."
>>2
>>>or 3 times a night. The things I used to have to do to make a living.
>
>>
>>>
>>>Maybe I should do a "jazz" version of that.
>>>
>>>Gantt
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Just heard a jazz version of...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ready?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The Windmills of Your Mind
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>aarrggGGHHHHHHHHH!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>damn... them's some RIPE lyrics!
>>>>
>>>>You kids today can't write like THAT! heh heh heh
>>>>
>>>>That was MUSIC!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>oooffff....
>>>>
>>>>DC
>>>>
>>>
>>maybe the ps is going.
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:03:47 -0400, "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Got everything out of magma, reseated it's card.
>Booted computer fine with nothing in magma.
>Tried one eds, computer still booted fine.
>Tried booting with Mec attached but off no probs.
>Tried with mec on booted fine but am back to no
>clock or modules showing in Mec with Paris started.
>I forgot to disattach the second Mecs clock from the first
>and it was off. It may be why but I doubt it.
>
>I'm off to a crazy weekend but at this point am thinking
>the Magma is toast. ? ? ?
>I'll be back to hear your replies in 6 hours or so.
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:470fc436@linux...
> The Magma power supply just stops after about 45 seconds
> so windows freaks and won't finish starting up.
> "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:470fbd61@linux...
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> Hmmm...does it fail when windows starts if the MECs are connected or when
> PARIS starts?
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hi Mike,
> >I think Windows will boot fine, at least it used to with
> >all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach a
> >scsi cable to any of my three new working mecs.
> >It didn't a couple of days ago.
> >
> >I'm digging deeper into the way the cards are seated now.
> >I will check the Magma with one card and one interface at a=20
> >time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from removing=20
> >and reinserting the cards? =20
> >
> >This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good business.
> >Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . .=20
> >Tom
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message news:470f58fa$1@linux...
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any drivers.
> >
> > I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then one, then two, =
> >etc.,
> > until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the =
> >Magma,
> > I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. You may =
> >want to
> > test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong about that.
> =
> > It
> > sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS driver for a =
> >shit
> > when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached (that happens
> =
> >on
> > start up).
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Mike
> > =20
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
> > >New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
> > >Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
> > >then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
> >match.
> > >I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have made
> =
> >=3D
> > >even
> > >the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
> > >
> > >I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?
> > >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The =
> >Magma
> > >tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the =
> >far =3D
> > >left
> > >for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as =
> >you =3D
> > >face the front.
> > >I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.
> > >
> > >Everything is broken it seems.
> > >Tom
> > >
> > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D
> > >news:470d9f41$1@linux...
> > > I can't believe this one but . . .=3D20
> > >
> > > I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> > > start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> > > I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> > > would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> > > power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
> > > if I baby it.
> > >
> > > Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
> > > Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=3D20
> > > a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =3D
> > >anything
> > > about that in the manual.
> > >
> > > ? ? ?
> > >
> > > Why Me???
> > >
> > >
> > > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> > >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
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> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =3D
> > >Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a =
> >new =3D
> > >Antec 550=3D20
> > >watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. =
> >It =3D
> > >will run=3D20
> > >with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>then shut off just before XP =
> >boots and
> > =3D
> > >screws the=3D20
> > >whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'll double check seating of the
> =
> >cards
> > =3D
> > >but what=3D20
> > >else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans =
> >are =3D
> > >cooling=3D20
> > >well too.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS
> =
> >then =3D
> > >? Maybe=3D20
> > >3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =3D
> > >drivers? If so=3D20
> > >I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at how
> =
> >old =3D
> > >mine is. =3D20
> > >It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =
> >=3D
> > >one's slot=3D20
> > >#s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the front.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think mine's the opposite =
> >judging by
> > =3D
> > >my master=3D20
> > >card placement.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Everything is broken it =3D
> > >seems.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20
> > >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >=3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #
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| Re: Would someone please explain direct monitoring? [message #89565 is a reply to message #89562] |
Sun, 09 September 2007 15:18 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
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ill =
> >=3D
> > >work with all=3D20
> > > 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to =
> >unplug, wait,
> > =3D
> > >replug and=3D20
> > > start again.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with =
> >one Mec =3D
> > >then. I=3D20
> > > thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a auto shut off mechanism =
> >built in to
> > =3D
> > >the=3D20
> > > Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>about that in the =3D
> > >manual.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
> >spam,
> > =3D
> > >and=3D20
> > > you?<BR><A=3D20
> > > =3D
> > =
> >>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
> >fer=3D
> > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Mike,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think Windows will boot fine, at =
> >least it used to=20
> >with</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes =
> >as soon as I=20
> >attach a</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scsi cable to any of my three new =
> >working=20
> >mecs.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It didn't a couple of days =
> >ago.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm digging deeper into the way the =
> >cards are=20
> >seated now.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will check the Magma with one card =
> >and one=20
> >interface at a </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>time. Maybe the scherzo drivers =
> >are screwy=20
> >from removing </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and reinserting the cards? =
> ></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is amazing how one little thing =
> >can ruin a=20
> >good business.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well maybe it's 10 little things but. .
> =
> >.=20
> ></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message <A=20
> > =
> >href=3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=20
> > Tom,<BR><BR>I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any=20
> > drivers.<BR><BR>I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then
> =
> >one,=20
> > then two, etc.,<BR>until you can find the problem. If it is the =
> >bridge=20
> > chips in the Magma,<BR>I believe Windows would fail even if no cards =
> >were in=20
> > it. You may want to<BR>test it with another PCI card in it just =
> >in case=20
> > I'm wrong about that. It<BR>sounds to me like a bad card that is =
> >
> > throwing the PARIS driver for a shit<BR>when it tries to innitialize =
> >any 442s=20
> > that are attached (that happens on<BR>start up).<BR><BR>Good=20
> > luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR> <BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Most Excellent Fix It Guys,<BR>>New=20
> > problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt =
> >supply.<BR>>Powers up=20
> > nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards<BR>>then =
> >shut off=20
> > just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' match.<BR>>I'll =
> >double=20
> > check seating of the cards but what else would have made=20
> > =3D<BR>>even<BR>>the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling =
> >well=20
> > too.<BR>><BR>>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? =
> >Maybe 3 . .=20
> > . ? The Magma?<BR>>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? =
> >If so=20
> > I'd need older ones. The Magma<BR>>tech was almost laughing =
> >at how=20
> > old mine is. It has a slot on the far =3D<BR>>left<BR>>for =
> >the Magma=20
> > card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =
> >=3D<BR>>face=20
> > the front.<BR>>I think mine's the opposite judging by my master =
> >card=20
> > placement.<BR>><BR>>Everything is broken it=20
> > seems.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
> >in message=20
> > =3D<BR>>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> I can't believe this =
> >one but .=20
> > . .=3D20<BR>><BR>> I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for =
> >
> > years. Now it won't<BR>> start up and keep =
> >running. This=20
> > began tonight as<BR>> I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
> >setup. =20
> > The Magma<BR>> would power on for a split second then =
> >stop. I'm=20
> > thinking<BR>> power supply. It might still work with =
> >all 5=20
> > cards and 1 Mec<BR>> if I baby it.<BR>><BR>> Once =
> >it's=20
> > off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.<BR>> =
> >Maybe it=20
> > will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =
> >was=3D20<BR>> a=20
> > auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see=20
> > =3D<BR>>anything<BR>> about that in the=20
> > manual.<BR>><BR>> ? ? ?<BR>><BR>> Why=20
> > Me???<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
> >fight spam,=20
> > and you?<BR>> <A=20
> > =
> >href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
> >.html</A> =20
> > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> > http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> > =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
> >content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> > 6.00.2800.1400"=20
> > =
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> >D><BR>><BODY=20
> > bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
> >size=3D3D2>Most=20
> > Excellent Fix It=20
> > =3D<BR>>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a new =
> >=3D<BR>>Antec=20
> > 550=3D20<BR>>watt =
> >supply.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DAria
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Sun, 09 September 2007 16:20 |
LaMont
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l size=3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It =
> >=3D<BR>>will=20
> > run=3D20<BR>>with 5 EDS=20
> > cards</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>then shut off just before XP boots =
> >and<BR>=3D<BR>>screws=20
> > the=3D20<BR>>whole shootin'=20
> > match.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>I'll double check seating of the cards<BR>=3D<BR>>but =
> >
> > what=3D20<BR>>else would have made=20
> > even</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans are =
> >=3D<BR>>cooling=3D20<BR>>well=20
> > too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then =3D<BR>>? =
> >Maybe=3D20<BR>>3=20
> > . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =3D<BR>>drivers? =
> >If=20
> > so=3D20<BR>>I'd need older ones. The=20
> > Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =3D<BR>>mine is.=20
> > =3D20<BR>>It has a slot on the far=20
> > left</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =3D<BR>>one's =
> >slot=3D20<BR>>#s go=20
> > 1-13 rt to left as you face the=20
> > front.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>I think mine's the opposite judging by<BR>=3D<BR>>my=20
> > master=3D20<BR>>card=20
> > placement.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>Everything is broken it=20
> > =3D<BR>>seems.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
> ></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> > dir=3D3Dltr=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: =
> >5px;=20
> > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =
> >MARGIN-RIGHT:=20
> > 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" =
> ><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> > href=3D3D"<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> > wrote =3D<BR>>in message=3D20<BR>> <A href=3D3D"<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D'news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:47=
> >0d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=
> >> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can't believe this =
> >one but . .=20
> > . =3D<BR>></FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> ><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a =
> >13 slot=20
> > Magma =3D<BR>>for=3D20<BR>> years. Now it=20
> > won't</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>start up and keep running. This =
> >=3D<BR>>began=3D20<BR>> =20
> > tonight as</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
> >=3D<BR>>setup.=20
> > The=3D20<BR>> Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would power on for a =
> >split second=20
> > =3D<BR>>then=3D20<BR>> stop. I'm=20
> > thinking</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>power supply. It might still =
> >=3D<BR>>work with=20
> > all=3D20<BR>> 5 cards and 1 =
> >Mec</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>if I baby=20
> > it.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
> ><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug,=20
> > wait,<BR>=3D<BR>>replug and=3D20<BR>> start=20
> > again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec =3D<BR>>then.=20
> > I=3D20<BR>> thought there was =
> ></FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a auto shut off =
> >mechanism built=20
> > in to<BR>=3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> Magma. I didn't see=20
> > anything</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>about that in the=20
> > =3D<BR>>manual.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> ><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>? ?=20
> > ?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
> ><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Why =
> >Me???</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =
> >Polesoft Lockspam=20
> > to fight spam,<BR>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>> =20
> > you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
> >'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
> >>=3D<BR>>.html</A>=20
> > =
> ></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><BR=
> >>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >hey,,,mengele tried to put monkey glands in one of my uncles...yeah,
he's dead...along with a few others. yup, i've got some euro blood in
me.
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:12:32 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
net> wrote:
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:470fc30b$1@linux...
>>
>> well fair enough, i have to agree with you there
>
>Well, since he is fluent in snake, at least presumably as a second language,
>I'm feeling much more comfortable with this. I mean, I think we need more
>docors in politics personally. These guys don't f*** around. They get things
>done in a big way.........I mean, let's take Che Guevara, Francois Duvalier,
>Al Zawahiri, Bilal Abdulla, Sabeel Ahmed and Joseph Mengele for
>example..............
>
>I feel safer already
>
>;o)
>McArthur Park instrumentally? Wow...
I had to play that one every night too for a while. Oh, the shame. I'm
old and I used to play in Top 40 Show Bands. There! I said it!
Gantt
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>Someone left the cake out in the rain, now there's a song!
>
>
>I don't think that I can take it!!!
>
>
>
>Another item I liked at AES was Izotope’s new restoration suite. Far better
than Waves or Bias Soundsoap, this package comes in a $1199 version that
is competitive with the Algorithmix pa
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| Re: Would someone please explain direct monitoring? [message #89569 is a reply to message #89566] |
Sun, 09 September 2007 16:56 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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pple is finally getting around to
>implementing it, though, it's very useful.
>
>The upcoming OSX feature I'm most interested in is one he didn't
>mention, Time Machine. Built-in backups. That alone should be worth the
>update.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:471025a5$1@linux...
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> http://www.mactruth.com/more.php?id=19_0_1_0_M
..................but what if you don't want all that stuff........can you
uninstall it?This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Rick,
I just replaced the power supply in the magma yesterday. The mecs are =
brand new/used to me.
I have two others to try but I'm afraid I'd be toasting them one by one =
somehow.
This is so outlandish I don't know what to think anymore.
Tom
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:qn00h3t7hi790656b1qcjk40s7bvnqvt9r@4ax.com...
maybe the ps is going.
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:03:47 -0400, "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Got everything out of magma, reseated it's card.
>Booted computer fine with nothing in magma.
>Tried one eds, computer still booted fine.
>Tried booting with Mec attached but off no probs.
>Tried with mec on booted fine but am back to no
>clock or modules showing in Mec with Paris started.
>I forgot to disattach the second Mecs clock from the first
>and it was off. It may be why but I doubt it.
>
>I'm off to a crazy weekend but at this point am thinking
>the Magma is toast. ? ? ?
>I'll be back to hear your replies in 6 hours or so.
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470fc436@linux...
> The Magma power supply just stops after about 45 seconds
> so windows freaks and won't finish starting up.
> "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:470fbd61@linux...
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> Hmmm...does it fail when windows starts if the MECs are connected =
or when
> PARIS starts?
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hi Mike,
> >I think Windows will boot fine, at least it used to with
> >all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach a
> >scsi cable to any of my three new working mecs.
> >It didn't a couple of days ago.
> >
> >I'm digging deeper into the way the cards are seated now.
> >I will check the Magma with one card and one interface at a=3D20
> >time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from removing=3D20
> >and reinserting the cards? =3D20
> >
> >This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good business.
> >Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . .=3D20
> >Tom
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message =
news:470f58fa$1@linux...
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any drivers.
> >
> > I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then one, =
then two, =3D
> >etc.,
> > until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in =
the =3D
> >Magma,
> > I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. You =
may =3D
> >want to
> > test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong =
about that.
> =3D
> > It
> > sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS driver =
for a =3D
> >shit
> > when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached (that =
happens
> =3D
> >on
> > start up).
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Mike
> > =3D20
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
> > >New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
> > >Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
> > >then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole =
shootin' =3D
> >match.
> > >I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would =
have made
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >even
> > >the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
> > >
> > >I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The =
Magma?
> > >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. =
The =3D
> >Magma
> > >tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot =
on the =3D
> >far =3D3D
> > >left
> > >for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to =
left as =3D
> >you =3D3D
> > >face the front.
> > >I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card =
placement.
> > >
> > >Everything is broken it seems.
> > >Tom
> > >
> > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D3D
> > >news:470d9f41$1@linux...
> > > I can't believe this one but . . .=3D3D20
> > >
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| Re: Would someone please explain direct monitoring? [message #89572 is a reply to message #89569] |
Sun, 09 September 2007 19:16 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
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l size=3D3D2>Hi Mike,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think Windows will boot =
fine, at =3D
> >least it used to=3D20
> >with</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>all 5 cards in it. Now it =
chokes =3D
> >as soon as I=3D20
> >attach a</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>scsi cable to any of my =
three new =3D
> >working=3D20
> >mecs.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It didn't a couple of days =
=3D
> >ago.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm digging deeper into the =
way the =3D
> >cards are=3D20
> >seated now.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I will check the Magma with =
one card =3D
> >and one=3D20
> >interface at a </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>time. Maybe the scherzo =
drivers =3D
> >are screwy=3D20
> >from removing </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and reinserting the cards? =
=3D
> ></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This is amazing how one =
little thing =3D
> >can ruin a=3D20
> >good business.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Well maybe it's 10 little =
things but. .
> =3D
> >.=3D20
> ></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; =3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message <A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>H=
i=3D20
> > Tom,<BR><BR>I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require =
any=3D20
> > drivers.<BR><BR>I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards =
in, then
> =3D
> >one,=3D20
> > then two, etc.,<BR>until you can find the problem. If it is =
the =3D
> >bridge=3D20
> > chips in the Magma,<BR>I believe Windows would fail even if no =
cards =3D
> >were in=3D20
> > it. You may want to<BR>test it with another PCI card in it =
just =3D
> >in case=3D20
> > I'm wrong about that. It<BR>sounds to me like a bad card that =
is =3D
> >
> > throwing the PARIS driver for a shit<BR>when it tries to =
innitialize =3D
> >any 442s=3D20
> > that are attached (that happens on<BR>start =
up).<BR><BR>Good=3D20
> > luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR> <BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Most Excellent Fix It Guys,<BR>>New=3D20
> > problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt =3D
> >supply.<BR>>Powers up=3D20
> > nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards<BR>>then =
=3D
> >shut off=3D20
> > just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
match.<BR>>I'll =3D
> >double=3D20
> > check seating of the cards but what else would have made=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>even<BR>>the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling =
=3D
> >well=3D20
> > too.<BR>><BR>>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? =3D
> >Maybe 3 . .=3D20
> > . ? The Magma?<BR>>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? =3D
> >If so=3D20
> > I'd need older ones. The Magma<BR>>tech was almost laughing =
=3D
> >at how=3D20
> > old mine is. It has a slot on the far =3D3D<BR>>left<BR>>for =
=3D
> >the Magma=3D20
> > card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>face=3D20
> > the front.<BR>>I think mine's the opposite judging by my =
master =3D
> >card=3D20
> > placement.<BR>><BR>>Everything is broken it=3D20
> > seems.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote =3D
> >in message=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> I can't believe this =
=3D
> >one but .=3D20
> > . .=3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for =
=3D
> >
> > years. Now it won't<BR>> start up and keep =3D
> >running. This=3D20
> > began tonight as<BR>> I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =3D
> >setup. =3D20
> > The Magma<BR>> would power on for a split second then =3D
> >stop. I'm=3D20
> > thinking<BR>> power supply. It might still work with =3D
> >all 5=3D20
> > cards and 1 Mec<BR>> if I baby it.<BR>><BR>> Once =3D
> >it's=3D20
> > off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.<BR>> =3D
> >Maybe it=3D20
> > will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =3D
> >was=3D3D20<BR>> a=3D20
> > auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't =
see=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>anything<BR>> about that in the=3D20
> > manual.<BR>><BR>> ? ? ?<BR>><BR>> Why=3D20
> > Me???<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =3D
> >fight spam,=3D20
> > and you?<BR>> <A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
> >.html</A> =3D20
> > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
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the ps is going.<BR><BR>On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:03:47 -0400, "Tom =
Bruhl" <<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>><BR>wrote:=
<BR><BR>>Got=20
everything out of magma, reseated it's card.<BR>>Booted computer =
fine with=20
nothing in magma.<BR>>Tried one eds, computer still booted=20
fine.<BR>>Tried booting with Mec attached but off no =
probs.<BR>>Tried=20
with mec on booted fine but am back to no<BR>>clock or modules =
showing in=20
Mec with Paris started.<BR>>I forgot to disattach the second Mecs =
clock=20
from the first<BR>>and it was off. It may be why but I doubt=20
it.<BR>><BR>>I'm off to a crazy weekend but at this point am=20
thinking<BR>>the Magma is toast. ? ? ?<BR>>I'll be back to hear =
your=20
replies in 6 hours or so.<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A =
href=3D"news:470fc436@linux">news:470fc436@linux</A>...<BR>> =
The=20
Magma power supply just stops after about 45 seconds<BR>> so =
windows=20
freaks and won't finish starting up.<BR>> "Mike =
Audet"=20
<mike@....> wrote in message <A=20
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href=3D"news:470fbd61@linux">news:470fbd61@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>>&n=
bsp; =20
Hi Tom,<BR>><BR>> Hmmm...does it fail when =
windows=20
starts if the MECs are connected or when<BR>> =
PARIS=20
starts?<BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> =20
><BR>> >Hi Mike,<BR>> =
>I=20
think Windows will boot fine, at least it used to=20
with<BR>> >all 5 cards in it. Now it =
chokes as=20
soon as I attach a<BR>> >scsi cable to any of =
my three=20
new working mecs.<BR>> >It didn't a couple of =
days=20
ago.<BR>> ><BR>> >I'm =
digging=20
deeper into the way the cards are seated =
now.<BR>> >I=20
will check the Magma with one card and one interface at=20
a=3D20<BR>> >time. Maybe the scherzo =
drivers are=20
screwy from removing=3D20<BR>> >and =
reinserting the=20
cards? =3D20<BR>> ><BR>> =
>This=20
is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good=20
business.<BR>> >Well maybe it's 10 little =
things but.=20
. .=3D20<BR>> >Tom<BR>> =20
><BR>> ><BR>> =20
><BR>> > "Mike Audet" =
<Mike@...> wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
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><BR>> > Hi =
Tom,<BR>> =20
><BR>> > I have the same old Magma, =
and it=20
doesn't require any drivers.<BR>> =20
><BR>> > I'd try booting Windows XP =
with no=20
EDS cards in, then one, then two, =3D<BR>> =20
>etc.,<BR>> > until you can find the=20
problem. If it is the bridge chips in the =
=3D<BR>> =20
>Magma,<BR>> > I believe Windows =
would fail=20
even if no cards were in it. You may =
=3D<BR>> =20
>want to<BR>> > test it with another =
PCI card=20
in it just in case I'm wrong about that.<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> > It<BR>> =
> =20
sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS driver for a=20
=3D<BR>> >shit<BR>> =
> when=20
it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached (that=20
happens<BR>> =3D<BR>> =20
>on<BR>> > start=20
up).<BR>> ><BR>> =
> Good=20
luck!<BR>> ><BR>> =
> =20
Mike<BR>> > =20
=3D20<BR>> ><BR>> =
> "Tom=20
Bruhl" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> > =
><BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > >Most =
Excellent Fix It=20
Guys,<BR>> > >New problem. Just =
installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.<BR>> =
> =20
>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS=20
cards<BR>> > >then shut off just =
before XP=20
boots and screws the whole shootin' =3D<BR>> =20
>match.<BR>> > >I'll double check =
seating=20
of the cards but what else would have made<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >=3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>even<BR>> > >the new supply to=20
croak? Fans are cooling well too.<BR>> =
> =20
><BR>> > >I'm thinking I have a =
broken EDS=20
then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The =
Magma?<BR>> =20
> >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd =
need older=20
ones. The =3D<BR>> =20
>Magma<BR>> > >tech was almost =
laughing at=20
how old mine is. It has a slot on the =
=3D<BR>> =20
>far =3D3D<BR>> > =20
>left<BR>> > >for the Magma =
card. =20
The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as =
=3D<BR>> =20
>you =3D3D<BR>> > >face the=20
front.<BR>> > >I think mine's the =
opposite=20
judging by my master card placement.<BR>> =
> =20
><BR>> > >Everything is broken it=20
seems.<BR>> > =
>Tom<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > > "Tom =
Bruhl"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message =3D3D<BR>> > =20
>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> > =
> I=20
can't believe this one but . . .=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
><BR>> > > I've had 5 cards =
in a 13=20
slot Magma for years. Now it won't<BR>> =
> =20
> start up and keep running. This began tonight=20
as<BR>> > > I tried adding Mec =
#2 to a=20
1 Mec setup. The Magma<BR>> > =
> =20
would power on for a split second then stop. I'm=20
thinking<BR>> > > power =
supply. =20
It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 =
Mec<BR>> =20
> > if I baby it.<BR>> =
> =20
><BR>> > > Once it's off I =
have to=20
unplug, wait, replug and start again.<BR>> =
> =20
> Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought =
there=20
was=3D3D20<BR>> > > a auto shut =
off=20
mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see=20
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| Re: Would someone please explain direct monitoring? [message #89578 is a reply to message #89576] |
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> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>a auto shut off =
mechanism=20
=3D<BR>> >built in =
to<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> > =20
>the=3D3D20<BR>> > > Magma. =
I didn't=20
see anything</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>about =
that in the=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>manual.</FONT></DIV><BR >> =
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size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>? ?=20
?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
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<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Why=20
Me???</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
<DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =
Polesoft=20
Lockspam to fight =3D<BR>> =20
>spam,<BR>> > =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >and=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
=3D<BR>> =20
>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re'>h=
ttp://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re</A>=3D<B=
R>> =20
>fer=3D3D<BR>> > >.html</A>=20
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</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE ></BODY></HTML> <BR=
>> =20
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><BR>> ><BR>> =20
><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC =
"-//W3C//DTD HTML=20
4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =20
><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=20
http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =
=3D<BR>> =20
>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> ><META =
content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400"=20
name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> =20
><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> =20
></HEAD><BR>> ><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi=20
Mike,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think Windows =
will boot=20
fine, at =3D<BR>> >least it used=20
to=3D20<BR>> =20
>with</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>all 5 cards in =
it. Now=20
it chokes =3D<BR>> >as soon as=20
I=3D20<BR>> >attach=20
a</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>scsi cable to any of my three new=20
=3D<BR>> =
>working=3D20<BR>> =20
>mecs.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It didn't a =
couple of days=20
=3D<BR>> =20
>ago.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I'm digging deeper into the way the =
=3D<BR>> =20
>cards are=3D20<BR>> >seated=20
now.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I will check the =
Magma with=20
one card =3D<BR>> >and =
one=3D20<BR>> =20
>interface at a </FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>time. Maybe =
the scherzo=20
drivers =3D<BR>> >are=20
screwy=3D20<BR>> >from removing=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and reinserting the cards? =20
=3D<BR>> =20
></FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>This is amazing how one little thing =
=3D<BR>> =20
>can ruin a=3D20<BR>> >good=20
business.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Well maybe it's =
10 little=20
things but. .<BR>> =3D<BR>> =20
>.=3D20<BR>> =20
></FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> ><DIV>=20
</DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>> =
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D<BR>> =20
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT:=20
0px"><BR>> > <DIV>"Mike Audet"=20
<Mike@...> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =
> =3D<BR>> >href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=3D=
20'>news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV&=
gt;<BR>Hi=3D20</A><BR>> =20
> Tom,<BR><BR>I have the same old Magma, and it =
doesn't=20
require any=3D20<BR>> > =20
drivers.<BR><BR>I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS =
cards in,=20
then<BR>> =3D<BR>> =20
>one,=3D20<BR>> > then two,=20
etc.,<BR>until you can find the problem. If it is the=20
=3D<BR>> =
>bridge=3D20<BR>> > =20
chips in the Magma,<BR>I believe Windows would fail even if no =
cards=20
=3D<BR>> >were =
in=3D20<BR>> =20
> it. You may want to<BR>test it with another PCI =
card in=20
it just =3D<BR>> >in =
case=3D20<BR>> =20
> I'm wrong about that. It<BR>sounds to me like a =
bad=20
card that is =3D<BR>> =
><BR>> =20
> throwing the PARIS driver for a shit<BR>when it tries =
to=20
innitialize =3D<BR>> >any=20
442s=3D20<BR>> > that are attached (that =
happens=20
on<BR>start =
up).<BR><BR>Good=3D20<BR>> =20
> luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR& gt; =20
<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t; =20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Most =
Excellent Fix=20
It Guys,<BR>>New=3D20<BR>> > =20
problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt =
=3D<BR>> =20
>supply.<BR>>Powers up=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS =
cards<BR>>then=20
=3D<BR>> >shut =
off=3D20<BR>> =20
> just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin'=20
match.<BR>>I'll =3D<BR>> =20
>double=3D20<BR>> > check seating of =
the cards=20
but what else would have made=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
=3D3D<BR>>even<BR>> ;the new supply to croak? =
Fans are=20
cooling =3D<BR>> =
>well=3D20<BR>> =20
> too.<BR>><BR>>I'm thinking I have a =
broken EDS=20
then ? =3D<BR>> >Maybe 3 .=20
.=3D20<BR>> > . ? The=20
Magma?<BR>>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? =20
=3D<BR>> >If so=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
I'd need older ones. The Magma<BR>>tech was almost =
laughing=20
=3D<BR>> >at =
how=3D20<BR>> > =20
old mine is. It has a slot on the far=20
=3D3D<BR>>left<BR>> ;for =3D<BR>> =
>the=20
Magma=3D20<BR>> > card. The newer =
one's slot=20
#s go 1-13 rt to left as you =3D<BR>> =20
>=3D3D<BR>>face=3D20<BR>> > =
the=20
front.<BR>>I think mine's the opposite judging by my master=20
=3D<BR>> >card=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
placement.<BR>><BR>&g t;Everything is broken=20
it=3D20<BR>> > =20
seems.<BR>>Tom<BR>> ;<BR>> "Tom Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
wrote =3D<BR>> >in =
message=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
=3D3D<BR>>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> I=20
can't believe this =3D<BR>> >one but=20
.=3D20<BR>> > .=20
.=3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I've had 5 cards in a 13 =
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years. Now it won't<BR>> start up and keep=20
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=3D<BR>> >setup. =
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thinking<BR>> power=20
supply. It might still work with =3D<BR>> =
>all=20
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Mec<BR>> =20
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=3D<BR>> >Maybe =
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manual.<BR>><BR>>& amp;nbsp; ? ?=20
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> Me???<BR>><BR>>&am p;lt;BR>> I =
choose=20
Polesoft Lockspam to =3D<BR>> >fight=20
spam,=3D20<BR>> > and =
you?<BR>> =20
<A=3D20<BR>> > =
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| Re: Would someone please explain direct monitoring? [message #89604 is a reply to message #89603] |
Mon, 10 September 2007 18:12 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
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>can ruin a=20
> > >good business.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well maybe it's 10 little things but. .
> > =
> > >.=20
> > ></FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> > >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message <A=20
> > > =
> > >href=3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=20
> > > Tom,<BR><BR>I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any=20
> > > drivers.<BR><BR>I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then
> > =
> > >one,=20
> > > then two, etc.,<BR>until you can find the problem. If it is the =
> > >bridge=20
> > > chips in the Magma,<BR>I believe Windows would fail even if no cards =
> > >were in=20
> > > it. You may want to<BR>test it with another PCI card in it just =
> > >in case=20
> > > I'm wrong about that. It<BR>sounds to me like a bad card that is =
> > >
> > > throwing the PARIS driver for a shit<BR>when it tries to innitialize =
> > >any 442s=20
> > > that are attached (that happens on<BR>start up).<BR><BR>Good=20
> > > luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR> <BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > > href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> > > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Most Excellent Fix It Guys,<BR>>New=20
> > > problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt =
> > >supply.<BR>>Powers up=20
> > > nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards<BR>>then =
> > >shut off=20
> > > just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' match.<BR>>I'll =
> > >double=20
> > > check seating of the cards but what else would have made=20
> > > =3D<BR>>even<BR>>the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling =
> > >well=20
> > > too.<BR>><BR>>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? =
> > >Maybe 3 . .=20
> > > . ? The Magma?<BR>>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? =
> > >If so=20
> > > I'd need older ones. The Magma<BR>>tech was almost laughing =
> > >at how=20
> > > old mine is. It has a slot on the far =3D<BR>>left<BR>>for =
> > >the Magma=20
> > > card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =
> > >=3D<BR>>face=20
> > > the front.<BR>>I think mine's the opposite judging by my master =
> > >card=20
> > > placement.<BR>><BR>>Everything is broken it=20
> > > seems.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > > href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
> > >in message=20
> > > =3D<BR>>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> I can't believe this =
> > >one but .=20
> > > . .=3D20<BR>><BR>> I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for =
> > >
> > > years. Now it won't<BR>> start up and keep =
> > >running. This=20
> > > began tonight as<BR>> I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
> > >setup. =20
> > > The Magma<BR>> would power on for a split second then =
> > >stop. I'm=20
> > > thinking<BR>> power supply. It might still work with =
> > >all 5=20
> > > cards and 1 Mec<BR>> if I baby it.<BR>><BR>> Once =
> > >it's=20
> > > off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.<BR>> =
> > >Maybe it=20
> > > will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =
> > >was=3D20<BR>> a=20
> > > auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see=20
> > > =3D<BR>>anything<BR>> about that in the=20
> > > manual.<BR>><BR>> ? ? ?<BR>><BR>> Why=20
> > > Me???<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
> > >fight spam,=20
> > > and you?<BR>> <A=20
> > > =
> > >href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
> > >.html</A> =20
> > > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> > > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> > > http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> > > =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
> > >content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
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