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| Version 3 MEC Inputs Card B No sound [message #61528] |
Sun, 18 December 2005 09:54  |
Deadmeat
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ks only when All
Tracks is selected in Step 7 above.
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To DELETE time across multiple submixes use the DELETE TIME feature in
the Edit menu
1. Find the Kick on the In and Out points and drop markers at both places.
2. Open the Marker window. Use Reverse Sort* (making it easier to do the
math in your head) and subtract to find the EXACT distance between the
Markers.
3. IMPORTANT! Locate the Now Line to the earlier of the 2 Markers.
That's where the cut
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| Re: Version 3 MEC Inputs Card B No sound [message #61550 is a reply to message #61534] |
Sun, 18 December 2005 16:24  |
Tom Bruhl
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>>>> I just read the doc, thanks for posting the link. Much of it is quite
>>>> interesting and just as much is confusing.
>>>> I didn't know tdm systems sounded gnarly, never having worked with one.
>> At
>>>> what track count would they sonically crap out?
>>>>
>>>> If I can't get some of my tedious little troubles with paris resolved
>> I'm
>>>> considering switching to protools.
>>>>
>>>> jef
>>>>
>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://akwww.digidesign.com/support/docs/WhitePaper_48BitMix er.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> Any comments? It appears to me that the signals are recorded at 24
>>>>> bit, then processed at whatever bit rate the plugin on the channel
has,
>>>>> including dither, or not, then reprocessed to 24 bit, then these channels
>>>>> are summed. I'm no guru when it comes to this stuff, but I get this
>>>>> feeling
>>>>> that this reprocessing *per channel* is the reason the TDM systems
seem
>> to
>>>>> start sounding gnarly as more and more tracks are summed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Do you guys have any problem when going from chapter to chapter?
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It drives me nuts because I feel like I'm always missing information?
I've tried two different disks but they're both the same so it's either
the DVD production or my lame ass DVD player.
Anybody else?
By the way I still watch it no matter how painful...
Tom
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It wasn't as soft sounding as the UAD La2a.
I think increasing the ratio a little bit helped. Not a bad
starting point though. Give it a try if you haven't.
Thanks Dimitrios.
T.
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Have a look at the new softsynth from www.kjaerhusaudio.com You can try it
out before buying. I've heard on the mp3's on the site and I must say it
sounded great for
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| Re: Version 3 MEC Inputs Card B No sound [message #61573 is a reply to message #61550] |
Mon, 19 December 2005 08:57 |
Deadmeat
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quot;rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:g24rr1tepfc875igtpfb42n914c128i2r4@4ax.com...
>> >> my g4 has no sata connectivity so it would be strictly a pci thing.
i
>> >> was checking out mac gurus and theirs against the others. i will say
>> >> that after 2 1/2 years tiger 10.4.3 is pretty good after 3 installs.
>> >> it seems that the firewire card in it went bad and for some reason
>> >> would take out the external drives on the internal firewire and
>> >> corrupt the boot drive that disk warrior wouldn't even touch it.
>> >>
>> >> thanks
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:10:32 -0700, "DJ"
>> >> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I've heard nothing but good things about the Silicon Image SATA
>> >conrrollers.
>> >> >I have a question about this though. If I'm reading my manual
>correctly,
>> >the
>> >> >onboard VIA controller on my mobo has it's own separate bus for SATA
>> RAID
>> >> >which is independent of the PCI bus. I would think that, if this is
>the
>> >> >case, using an onboard controller would be a better choice as long
as
>> >it's
>> >> >got a separate bus. The Promise controller on my A7V8X-LAN mobo has
>> >onboard
>> >> >SATA but it's pinging the PCI bus a little and therefore isn't much
>> >faster
>> >> >than ATA33.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:s3tpr1lk8vmphfgn3jf4c7c8cdn9jt06a4@4ax.com...
>> >> >> opinions???
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>
>On 6 Jan 2006 19:20:52 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>It's not so much the computer itself, it's the crap that Rick had to put
>up
>>with from Apple. Unbelievable.
>
>
>I agree, that totally sucks. I have an iBook that had some problems, one
>may have been self-inflicted. Anyways they replaced every thing that was
>wrong at no expense to me. I even had a stuck pixel, they where going to
>replace the screen, I told them not to worry about it. By the way the pixel
>is working now. I should also tell you that I got the extended warranty,
>worth every penny.
they did replace the mobo x2, the cpus, and boot drive.
>
>Apple even gives you the option to buy an extended warranty up to a year
>from the purchase date.
i had the 3 year plan
>
>It bums me out to know that Rick had such a bad experience with his G4, and
>Apple. Apple should have gotten a class action suit for putting out a bastard
>MOBO like that! I can tell you that Apple has been known to give an unhappy
>customer a brand new system. They will usually give a newer, better model
>to the customer.
i asked several times, they refused but did want to duplicate my
studio instead.
>
>All companies put out some defective MOBOs, I'm sure you know somebody that
>has gotten one. When I was a Radius dealer, there were a lot of defective
>MOBOs, IBM soldered some chips on backwards. I've still got some of them
>here. In Apples case, I think they through that MOBO together and put it
>out only to find all kinds of problems. I'm still not sure about FireWire
>800, does it work? They had all kinds of problems with that alone.
it's fine for the RME interfaces but not so good for the drives.
those are kept on the 400 connection.
>
> I still think a letter from an attorney would have gotten the purchase price
>back. As Rick pointed out, the time and lost business was the greater loss,
>and that really sucks!
i did talk to my attorney but at the time a solo shot was considered a
waste of time. kinda like when the apc unit failed when the power
company workers tur;ned the power on and off 8 times in a couple of
seconds and blew out several thousands of dollars of gear and
computers. they reasoned that the surge came in through a "back door"
by gear not on the protection circuit. fine but, the only gear
affected was the stuff on the apc.
>
>I won't buy any new, untested products. I won't consider buying one of the
>new intel macs for 6 months to a year. There is going to be some problems
>with them, you can count on it.
nobody said it was a hybrid, it was just a g4 sold before the rumored
g5 was to come out in a few months...that turned out to be less than a
week.
>
>
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:43be0aff$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>> >Gee uncle Rick.Every time your relate your experiences with Macs, somehow
>>> I
>>> >imagine that slitting my wrists would be preferable to owning one.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >;o)
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> One bad Apple out of the bunch and everybody thinks we got lemons.
>>>
>>>
>>> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> >news:g24rr1tepfc875igtpfb42n914c128i2r4@4
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| Re: Version 3 MEC Inputs Card B No sound [message #61583 is a reply to message #61573] |
Mon, 19 December 2005 09:57 |
Sandy Tipping
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es things more
complicated.
I would like to have clean (no leackage) trigger sound that could drive
drumagog
perfectly (if you can say that)
I am already using it with real drum sounds but sometimes leackage is an
enemy to perfect sound replacement.
Any insight in this direction would be appreciatted.
Regards,
Dimitrios
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"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:43bdf55a@linux...
> Ain't that *special file* thing cool? I love being able to just skip the
> whole dither step.
>
> ;o)
>
> "Lance Reichert" <lance.rocks@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:43bded96@linux...
> > You can import a 24 bit stereo wav and export the file as an mp3
> > without mixing down to 16 bit. Since I post online roughs for clients as
> > mp3s,
> > that's pretty darn handy.
> >
> >
>
>At this point I'm waiting for someone to give me even one solid reason to
use hardware synths other than familiarity.
TCB
"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> So I'm looking to get a new synth in here.Pretty slim synth
>collection-Kurz PC2X and 2500 rack,D50.I'm looking at the Yamaha
>motifs,but a buddy was telling me I should go soft synth.I'm not
>currently running DAW with audio/midi and was thinking of getting
>into the SX thing.
> I haven't gotten into the soft synth thing at all so I'm a
>little hesitant having to go the new dedicated comp,software,vsti
>route compared to a hardware synth I can turn on and make noise
>with.
> However,I can see the benefit of going that route with software
>that will continually be updated as opposed to a hard synth that
>will be worth whatever in a couple of years.
>
>Any advice appreciated,
>Pete"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote:
>
>This is an interesting concept, but does it work? And does it work in PARIS?
>
>Thanks
I tried the demo, but not in Paris. I had a very similar experience to Jesse.
The Q-cloned eq was almost indistinguishable from the originals I tried.
The only reason I did not purchase it (aside for not liking Waves update
policies) was that I don’t mind rendering with the real eq in the loop, which
I call “Q-Clone-Real” ;-)
Q-Clone however does allow people to share impulses of good sounding gear.
I found that aspect more intriguing. Many people have complained that the
process of hunting around through impulses with one db variations is painfully
time-consuming, but I found a simple technique that is quick.
Pick an impulse that is close to what you are looking for (like a Neve with
3db boost at 10K) and then use a high quality plugin eq like the Sony Oxford
to do the fine-tuning. This works quickly and still gives the flava’ of the
cloned eq. I use a similar technique with TriTones ColorTone.
Overall, the sound is quite impressive, and CPU/Load issues will soon go
away when we all build computers like DJ’s :-)
One site sharing high-end Q-Clone impulses:
http://www.buenosairesbreaks.com/q-clone/
GeneAlso, if you're looking for synthy synths check into Operator from Ableton,
it's a FM synth that (for FM) is actually pretty easy to use. The Spectrum
is partially an additive synth which is something I've never been able to
get my head around but maybe y'all can.
TCB
"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote:
>Pete,
>Have a look at the new softsynth from www.kjaerhusaudio.com You can try
it
>out before buying. I've heard on the mp3's on the site and I must say it
>sounded great for the money.
>
>Erling
>
>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> skrev i melding
>news:43bdc14e$1@linux...
>>
>> So I'm looking to get a new synth in here.Pretty slim synth
>> collection-Kurz PC2X and 2500 rack,D50.I'm looking at the Yamaha
>> motifs,but a buddy was telling me I should go soft synth.I'm not
>> currently running DAW with audio/midi and was thinking of getting
>> into the SX thing.
>> I haven't gotten into the soft synth thing at all so I'm a
>> little hesitant having to go the new dedicated comp,software,vsti
>> route compared to a hardware synth I can turn on and make noise
>> with.
>> However,I can see the benefit of going that route with software
>> that will continually be updated as opposed to a hard synth that
>> will be worth whatever in a couple of years.
>>
>> Any advice appreciated,
>> Pete
>
>I have to tell you that it's more 60/40 these day for me. Now that I built
myselt a Dedicated VSTi & Giga Machine (PC), powering up my keyboard racks
is becoming less less.
Last year I sysytematicaly set out to replace all of modlus and import stock(meat
& Potatoes) sounds that can get me thru a modern production.
When Spectrasonics updated Stylus to RMX & Battery/Acid, I know long have
to use my MPC for sounds, but only as a seqencer.
Here the replacement list:
For Rhodes: Native Instruments : Electick Piano, Scrarbee Rhodes
For Real Grand Pianos: Giga Pianos,Soon Ivory
For Synth Bass : Trilogy, Auturia Mini Moog
Pads : Atmosphere,FM7, Albino(!!!),Wavestation
Analogy Synths : Pro 53, Atmosphere,Korg poly 6,Moog,
CS- 80,Arp 2600
Organs: NI's B4..
Real Strings : Garritan Giga Strings,Sonic Implants,Kirk Hunter
Real Drum Sim: BFD, Battery..
i just em up in V-Stack, boom..remembers each song setups..
If I do use hardware, it's only becuase I just a particualr sound that I
have found yet in the vast vsti library. Also, I have a "ganked out" Kurweil
K2500XS, That's my Baby. It's has a sound quality second to none!! I have
Gigs of internal and external sound in it that just gets the job done..
So, there you have it.
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>At this point I'm waiting for someone to give me even one solid reason to
>use hardware synths other than familiarity.
>
>TCB
>
>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> So I'm looking to get a new synth in here.Pretty slim synth
>>collection-Kurz PC2X and 2500 rack,D50.I'm looking at the Yamaha
>>motifs,but a buddy was telling me I should go soft synth.I'm not
>>curr
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| Re: Version 3 MEC Inputs Card B No sound [message #61601 is a reply to message #61583] |
Mon, 19 December 2005 13:13 |
Deadmeat
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e-bay time...
>> chas.
>>
>>
>> On 7 Jan 2006 10:27:13 +1000, "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >I keep meaning to get Wavelab essentails wich was 99 bucks at MF a few
> months
>> >back
>> >
>> >Chas. Duncan <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote:
>> >>Want to buy, acquire, own a copy of Wavelab 4.1... Have 3.1 here and
>> >>would be glad to keep on using it, but I'm needing to move it to an XP
>> >>box, and 3.1 doesn't do XP. Not really interested in the surround
>> >>features and all the other complications of 5.0, and would like to
>> >>avoid spending money on features I don't need or want -- just need to
>> >>be doing that work under XP -- hence the search for 4.0...
>> >>
>> >>Any ideas? thanks -- Chas.
>>
>
>HDs sound like a good safety net. I have lost data on a couple when they
went bad though.
Was able to retrieve some off of one that would still run, with a recovery
utility.
CDs have worked out good for me for data and MP3s, even using the cheapest
Taiwan cds I mostly got free + tax at sales. For about a year now I have
been
using the DVDs, mostly the +R made in Japan and I hope they hold up for the
long term (x).
But still keeping my important stuff on CD. Optical is really cheap storage
but they
sure scratch easy and are subject to UV light.
Cheers, E
"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote in message news:43be6ead@linux...
> Well, I think with the cheapie prices of hard drives and the low cost of
USB
> enclosure, I am
> going that route for now. I'll burn on DvD, plus put a copy of the
project
> on a spare hard
> drive. Of course watch out for rip-offs. Those external hard drives sold
> in wally mart and
> such are nothing more than a hard drive in an enclosure. And they paste a
> 20% something
> on them... They simply cost too much! Buy and make your own. Also,
since
> I started buying
> enclosures... remember, you get what you pay for. If the enclosure is a
> cheapie.. THAT is what
> you'll get. I have one here called Bytecc. I like it, but not cheap. I
> also have a Sabrent... I think
> it was $19.95 at TigerDirect.... very fragile and not easy to mount the
> drive.
>
> I did finally get my data off those corrupt DvDs. It took a long time and
a
> lot of patience.
> To explain further. My drives would read the disk fine... it was usually
> when it got to the
> last folders on the disk when it would error. I'd eject the DvD, push it
> back in... wait for
> a sec... and try again. It was time consuming. I also learned not to
copy
> a bunch of folders.
> Only one folder at a time and sometimes a few files in the folder at a
time.
>
> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message news:43bd7826@linux...
> > The mfg of the burner may recommend one or the other. My liteon 8x
manual
> > recommended +R, which worked great - was unreliable with -R till I
> upgraded
> > the firmware. Concerning data loss over time, I have heard complaints
on
> > forums about this because of the way the dvds were labeled -
> nonwaterbased
> > ink pens leaking thru and press on labels causing problems. Personally,
I
> > havent had any long enough yet to tell.
> > E
> >
> > "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:43a2efda$1@linux...
> > >
> > > Hi, Ed.
> > > Nothing I say will help you right now, but...
> > > I actually stay away from "+" R's for the same reason.
> > > I have had the most luck with Pioneer burners, too, FWIW.
> > > (had Liteon and LG. Neither inspire confidence.)
> > > Also after making a backup, I always copy it back onto my audio drive
> just
> > > to make sure it will read.
> > > Always burn a little slower than max, and so far Imation and TDK
blanks
> > > have never let me down.
> > > Good Luck,
> > > Kim
> > >
> > > "Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >My experience with the DvD delimma of this kind is that sometimes it
is
> > > because
> > > >of the plus (+) or minus (-). I have had so many burnt DvD not
playing
> in
> > > >some.. but does read in others. I only purchase burners that do both
> > plus
> > > >and minus and I only purchase quality plus DvD's. I stay away from
> > minus.
> > > >
> > > >I too have stuff archived from years ago (2001/2002) that I archived
> with
> > > >an older Panasonic (minus) DvD burner. Of course, they sit there and
I
> > > can't
> > > >get the data off of them. I have tried several different drives with
> the
> > > >same results...
> > > >
> > > >Of course, this proves a VERY important lesson... DvD backups "are
not"
> > > reliable
> > > >in the long term. Perhaps the quality of the media and the drives
> > improved
> > > >since then, but I don't feel too safe with burning backups on DvDs
now.
> > > I
> > > >bought a Sony tape drive not long ago, but I hate it. There is no way
> to
> > > >get pieces of your data off the tape once it is backed up. The only
> cheap
> > > >alternative I see, is to buy cheap, smaller hard drives (4/6/10GB)
and
> > back
> > > >up folders to them.
> > > >
> > > >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Definately worth trying another drive too. I've had many files that
> > would
> > > >>read on some drives but not others.
> > > >>
> > > >>Cheers,
> > > >>Kim.
> > > >>
> > > >>"Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >>>thanks man.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>i will try these!
> > > >>>
> > > >>>jeremy
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>"Gene Lennon" <glennoon@NOSPmurealbox.com> wrote in message
> > > >>>news:43a1d31f$1@linux...
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> "Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >>>> >i have an archived song on DVD. I need to get 1 file off of the
> DVD
> > > >>(its
> > > >>>> >the final mix).
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> >i keep getting an error that says "Cannot copy No Such Luck
Indie
> > Final:
> > > >>>> >The parameter is incorrect."
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> >any suggestions?? am i totally screwed?? i wonder if another
dvd
> > > drive
> > > >>>> >would read the file??
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> >and yea... that's the title of the song... can you believe
that??
> > > >>>> &g
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