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| Re: PARIS goes for OSCAR! [message #65159 is a reply to message #65158] |
Sat, 04 March 2006 15:42   |
Rod Lincoln
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culous setups***
This is, parguably, one of the better features of this forum.
LOL
***I imagine that, say a decade from now, or two, the number
of "current" Paris users will be very low***
Five... I predict exactly "Five". :)
***I'm hoping however that the forum can continue to be an
excellent forum for general music knowledge. I'm hoping that
the isolation offered by the fact that our newsgroup is
available only on this one little server, and pushes itself on
the search engine only to Paris users, will shelter us, as it
seems to have so far, from the usual issues with trolls,
fanbois etc, where it can be hard to get an honest, unbiased,
useful opinion through the noise.
YEAH, BUDDY!!!
Thanks, Kimmers, and thanks to everyone from the folks who
star
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| Re: PARIS goes for OSCAR! [message #65162 is a reply to message #65159] |
Sat, 04 March 2006 18:47 |
Suad
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going to be of more help.
>
>But if I was to go all Nazi and implement some kind of blanket ban on posts
>not related directly to Paris, this place would be awefully quiet and pretty
>boring IMO, and no doubt die a slow death. The reality is there is less
and
>less to say about a system which has had no development for half a decade.
>
>I'd like to think, as the group moves forward, there will be certain basic
>things it will take with it.
>
>(*) It will continue to be the best place for Paris info, even though the
>actual user base is bound to deplete further. Not much can be done about
>that. No other group is likely to become more useful for Paris info than
>this one.
>(*) It will become a place where people can openly discuss other systems.
>Many other systems have their own forums, but often getting unbiased advice
>in such places is difficult, as the forums can be full of fanbois. Here
hopefully
>people can get useful information, and everyone can appreciate that all
systems
>have their advantages and disadvantages, just like everyone here understands
>that Paris has it's strong points, but that an outdated system doesn't suit
>everyone. Already the system base of users
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| Re: PARIS goes for OSCAR! [message #65238 is a reply to message #65235] |
Wed, 08 March 2006 05:48 |
Edna Sloan
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where other DAWs are not.
On the other hand, part of me still thinks that air, where the "summing bus"
mathematics is done in nature, may not necessarily be as pure in it's additions
as is a digital DAW. For example, I would think that air, when heavily compressed,
would offer more resistance the more it was compressed. It's not just doing
to keep giving. It will resist more with greater compression. So the louder
the sound, and the more you add sound together, the more you would get a
mild compression effect on the peaks. In analog systems, and possibly Paris,
you get this effect. It's only slight, but it's there. In digital systems
you don't.
I've never seen or heard anything about how sound works in the air and how
clean the maths is. People seem to assume it to be pure clean maths, but
I find that unlikely. Air is a dirty mixed up substance full of different
gases and particles, and sounds by nature are waves crossing in different
directions, intersecting, and doing all kinds of things.
Hence, which system is coloured? The digital or the analog? Paris or Protools
or, indeed, air? I suggested this in a post a while back I'm pretty sure.
But I think there's certainly variation in what various people prefer sound
wise. Digital is currently "in". Overcompressed is certainly in. Mind you
I think this is the way of the future. People are increasingly wanting everything
in little compact packages that are easier to digest. Getting somebody to
make you a pizza with chilli that's actually hot is becoming increasingly
difficult. I'd like to think that one day Paris, and the more analog sound
will be back in, but I suspect not. I beleive it will always have a following
though.
It certainly has more funk and soul in my books. :o)
Cheers,
Kim.Can you describe what your cubase/paris hybrid is and does?
Thanks DJ
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>With the exception of a few occasional rough spots here and there, my
>Cubase/Paris hybrid is exactly what I hoped Paris would eventually become.
>Just because Paris stopped doesn't mean we did. I think it's fun to put
this
>stuff together and see what it can achieve.
>
>;o)
>
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:443c54af$1@linux...
>>
>> Yeah, I still use Paris as main DAW, although I augment with cubase sx.
I
>> think of the spirit of this newsgr
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| Re: PARIS goes for OSCAR! [message #65243 is a reply to message #65238] |
Wed, 08 March 2006 06:24 |
Suad
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>>>>drag people away with you by knocking Paris. We need to encourage
>> >>>>>people
>> >>>>>to stick around. This NG is shrinking!
>> >>>>>I remember vary well a certain somebody, who I will leave unnamed;
>> )
>> >>>
>> >>> raved
>> >>>
>> >>>>>about Nuendo for months on end. Now that certain somebody is not
so
>>
>> >>>>>sure
>> >>>>>that Nuendo is better sounding than Paris! ; ) A couple of guys
>here
>> >>>
>> >>> that
>> >>>
>> >>>>>thought Nuendo was the answer to Paris are now questioning Nuendo.
>> Some
>> >>>>>times other stuff just sounds different, and initially perceived
as
>>
>> >>>>>being
>> >>>>>better. Of course paris was left behind feature wise, and some
>people
>> >>>
>> >>> love
>> >>>
>> >>>>>the whiz-bang of all that. Others prefer the capabilities and the
>> >>>>>working
>> >>>>>methods of newer software. There will always be something to come
>out
>> >>>
>> >>> that
>> >>>
>> >>>>>will be more slick than Paris. Paris is still pretty slick and vary
>>
>> >>>>>useable.
>> >>>>>When combined with a second DAW for effect processing, Paris becomes
>>
>> >>>>>vary
>> >>>>>hard to beat.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Many Paris commercial studio owners have expressed that they have,
or
>>
>> >>>>>are
>> >>>>>considering going with PT because it's "The industry standard".
Many
>>
>> >>>>>feel
>> >>>>>that if they don't jump to PT that they are losing business. For
>some
>> >>>
>> >>> people
>> >>>
>> >>>>>this is the case, and they need to do what they need to do. However,
>> it
>> >>>>>really should be based on the quality of the end result, not the
>> >>>>>equipment
>> >>>>>you use.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Everybody has different needs. For most project studios, there is
>> >>>>>really
>> >>>>>no need for an expensive system like PT, or 2K for Nuendo, plus the
>> cost
>> >>>>>of hardware. If your in a major market like N.Y., L.A., Nashville,
>> or
>> >>>
>> >>> Austin,
>> >>>
>> >>>>>then PT makes sense. For myself, I'm more in to recording live
>> >>>>>instruments,
>> >>>>>so paris works fine and sounds great. The day a record company wants
>> to
>> >>>>>give me a million dollars to record an album and insist on a SSL
9000
>>
>> >>>>>and
>> >>>>>a PT system, I'll buy them. When it comes to making a record, and
>your
>> >>>>
>> >>>>talking
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>sound quality, Paris can stand toe to toe with any DAW in the world.
>>
>> >>>>>There
>> >>>>>have been some pretty big records done on Paris, just ask BT. By
the
>>
>> >>>>>way,
>> >>>>>he still mixes with Paris!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Opinions are Ok, but I feel that post about PT that are in effect
>saying
>> >>>>>that PT is better than Paris, are not all that helpful to Paris
>users.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>>"Paul"
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| Re: PARIS goes for OSCAR! [message #65262 is a reply to message #65243] |
Wed, 08 March 2006 20:01 |
Edna Sloan
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/>
>
> is
>
>>>>>>>>>well
>>>>>>>>>respected here and welcome to post whatever the hell he whats to.
>>
>>OK?
>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>This being a Paris forum and all,.... your post is helping and
>>>>>>>>>>encouraging
>>>>>>>>>>the Paris users How??
>>>>>>>>>>Steve
>>>>>>>>>>"Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Howdy all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Havent dropped by in a month or so. Ill endeavour to drop by
>>>>>>>>>>>still.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Alot
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>of interesting posts to shuffle through....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My PT's rig is going very well. It took me and the pro tools
>
> rep
>
>>>>>>less
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>than 48 hours to completely swap over systems. That includes the
>>>
>>>new
>>>
>>>>>>>console
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>and surrounding furniture.
>>>>>>>>>>> The main difference to me with the mix bus in PT's, as opposed
>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>>>>>>Paris,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>is how much larger it is. Its easier to get cloudy in Paris. Im
>>
>>still
>>
>>>>>>>>running
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>at 48KHz on PT's. Paris certainly was a great way to spend 6
>>
>>years,
>>
>>>>>>but
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>things
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>really have progressed in the Digidesign world.
>>>>>>>>>>>Just a few thoughts.....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>You know, this group could almost be newly titled to include
>>
>>current
>>
>>>>>>>>Paris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>users and Paris users who have moved on to other systems, or
>>
>>Paris
>>
>>>>>>users
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>who
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>are using other systems with Paris. For me the greatest loss
>
> is
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>folks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>leave Paris and then this NG. I hope you'll stick around.
>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>MR
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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| Re: PARIS goes for OSCAR! [message #65263 is a reply to message #65243] |
Wed, 08 March 2006 22:01 |
Jon Jiles
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>>>>>>"Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>news:441d9384$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Howdy all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sad but exciting moment has arrived. My last Paris tracking
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>happened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>tonight. Six years Paris has been a loyal friend to me, but
>
> its
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>time
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>move
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Pro Tools rig has arrived, and Im setting it up this week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>bought
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>a Pro tools HD3 accel PCI-e rig, with a control 24, and a dual
>>>
>>>2.0
>>>
>>>>>>>>G5.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Hence
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the excitement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> paris has treated me well. Ive done a number of records on
>
> it
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>done quite well here in Australia. I have won Engineer/producer
>>>
>>>of
>>>
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>year
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>for the last 2 years here in Western Australia, and I truly
>>
>>believe
>>
>>>>>>>>>Paris
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>added something to my sound that other digital studios couldnt
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>achieve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am keeping my Paris rig, cuz i cant entirely let go yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers to ya all.!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762HI,
Yes well put.
Ummm by Paul's philosophy I guess I shouldn't post here anymore sense I
don't own ...:(
Chris
TC wrote:
> Well,
>
> I use PT HD, Logic 7 and Paris, with considerable investments in all
> over the years.
>
> The fact that Paris is no longer made means that people are eventually
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| Re: PARIS goes for OSCAR! [message #65283 is a reply to message #65263] |
Thu, 09 March 2006 10:20 |
Suad
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;> Thanks DJ
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >With the exception of a few occasional rough spots here and there, my
>> >Cubase/Paris hybrid is exactly what I hoped Paris would eventually
>become.
>> >Just because Paris stopped doesn't mean we did. I think it's fun to put
>> this
>> >stuff together and see what it can achieve.
>> >
>> >;o)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >news:443c54af$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> Yeah, I still use Paris as main DAW, although I augment with cubase
sx.
>> I
>> >> think of the spirit of this newsgroup to have evolved as those who
are
>> >searching
>> >> for the best way to do their thang with music, and share it.... guys
>and
>> >> gals that aren't swayed by popular opinion, unless it happens to be
the
>> >same
>> >> thing that works for them sonically, or logistically, or ergonomically,
>> or
>> >> whatever, and are willing to share, or learn. I say, bring it on. If
PT
>> is
>> >> working for you, and you can tell me how...I'll listen. Maybe it will
>> make
>> >> me better.
>> >> Rod
>> >> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>> >> >> Dawfensiveness
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Dude, I love that term. And your right. Look at all the hits made
>> >WAAAAYYY
>> >>
>> >> >before we even had computers, much less DAWs. It ain't as much about
>> the
>> >>
>> >> >tools as it is about the capturing of the moment. How you do that
is
>> >totally
>> >>
>> >> >personal and up to each of us. Sure, I can spank the daylights out
a
>> PT
>> >> mix
>> >> >in level with Paris, but then again Paris midi sucks. Use what floats
>> it
>> >> for
>> >> >ya, I say. Use it how it floats it for ya. If it's good, everyone
will
>> >know
>> >>
>> >> >it when they hear it, and the means doesn't matter. I still prefer
>Paris
>> >> in
>> >> >a big way, but I program midi/song structures elsewhere where the
>'sound'
>> >>
>> >> >doesn't matter and dump to.
>> >> >
>> >> >AA
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"TC" <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote in message
>> >> >news:443c155c$1@linux...
>> >> >> Well,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I use PT HD, Logic 7 and Paris, with considerable investments in
all
>> >over
>> >>
>> >> >> the years.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The fact that Paris is no longer made means that people are
>eventually
>> >>
>> >> >> either going to supplement their workflow with other systems, or
>move
>> >> on
>> >> >> once the hardware is no longer easy to come by.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dawfensiveness is just plain silly. That hasn't really been the
>spirit
>> >> of
>> >> >> this NG (although it has been touchy in the past at times) and
I
>think
>> >> we
>> >> >> can all keep an open mind and help each other with good info on
>various
>> >>
>> >> >> platforms.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If someone's moving to HD is going to somehow make another Paris
>user
>> >> feel
>> >> >> "inadequate" about their system, then so be it. Paris can hold it's
>> own
>> >>
>> >> >> sonically, and other systems will continue to have more features
>than
>> >>
>> >> >> Paris, but that's just the way it goes.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This place has always been a step above other NG's since I've been
>> >around
>> >>
>> >> >> here (1998), and it's aways been more about the community here than
>> >> >> current daw wars..
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheers,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> TC
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Steve Cox wrote:
>> >> >>> Hey John, Point taken...Steve
>> >> >>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>If I ever get PT I'll be here telling everyone how good or lousy
it
>> is
>> >>
>> >> >>>>and
>> >> >>>>it WILL help paris users decide to keep paris or move on. That's
>> >great
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> help<
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| Re: PARIS goes for OSCAR! [message #65294 is a reply to message #65283] |
Fri, 10 March 2006 01:52 |
rick
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gt; >> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>> >> >> Dawfensiveness
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Dude, I love that term. And your right. Look at all the hits made
>> >WAAAAYYY
>> >>
>> >> >before we even had computers, much less DAWs. It ain't as much about
>> the
>> >>
>> >> >tools as it is about the capturing of the moment. How you do that
is
>> >totally
>> >>
>> >> >personal and up to each of us. Sure, I can spank the daylights out
a
>> PT
>> >> mix
>> >> >in level with Paris, but then again Paris midi sucks. Use what floats
>> it
>> >> for
>> >> >ya, I say. Use it how it floats it for ya. If it's good, everyone
will
>> >know
>> >>
>> >> >it when they hear it, and the means doesn't matter. I still prefer
>Paris
>> >> in
>> >> >a big way, but I program midi/song structures elsewhere where the
>'sound'
>> >>
>> >> >doesn't matter and dump to.
>> >> >
>> >> >AA
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"TC" <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote in message
>> >> >news:443c155c$1@linux...
>> >> >> Well,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I use PT HD, Logic 7 and Paris, with considerable investments in
all
>> >over
>> >>
>> >> >> the years.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The fact that Paris is no longer made means that people are
>eventually
>> >>
>> >> >> either going to supplement their workflow with other systems, or
>move
>> >> on
>> >> >> once the hardware is no longer easy to come by.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dawfensiveness is just plain silly. That hasn't really been the
>spirit
>> >> of
>> >> >> this NG (although it has been touchy in the past at times) and
I
>think
>> >> we
>> >> >> can all keep an open mind and help each other with good info on
>various
>> >>
>> >> >> platforms.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If someone's moving to HD is going to somehow make another Paris
>user
>> >> feel
>> >> >> "inadequate" about their system, then so be it. Paris can hold it's
>> own
>> >>
>> >> >> sonically, and other systems will continue to have more features
>than
>> >>
>> >> >> Paris, but that's just the way it goes.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This place has always been a step above other NG's since I've been
>> >around
>> >>
>> >> >> here (1998), and it's aways been more about the community here than
>> >> >> current daw wars..
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheers,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> TC
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Steve Cox wrote:
>> >> >>> Hey John, Point taken...Steve
>> >> >>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>If I ever get PT I'll be here telling everyone how good or lousy
it
>> is
>> >>
>> >> >>>>and
>> >> >>>>it WILL help paris users decide to keep paris or move on. That's
>> >great
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> help
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>!
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>John
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>Hey Steve has a good point, this is the Paris news group, not
that
>> >other
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>people
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>aren't welcome! Both guys are entitled to their opinion. I think
>> >all
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> should
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>>be welcome.
>> >> >>>>>For some time there has been a migration away from Paris by former
>> >Paris
>> >> >>>>>users. Some people have tried to justify their own choice by
>saying
>> >>
>> >> >>>>>things
>> >> >>>>>like the waters are safe in PT land, or PT sounds better than
>Paris.
>> >> It
>> >> >>>>>is discouraging to paris users, and kind of trolling. Some PT
>users
>> >>
>> >> >>>>>have
>> >> >>>>>actually come here in the past just to troll, and it didn't help
>> our
>> >>
>> >> >>>>>group
>> >> >>>>>much. It is psychological, it makes you feel like your missing
>out,
>> >> or
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>your
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>getting left behind. When BT left, a lot of people went with
him
>> so
>> >> to
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>speak.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>For the others that are going to switch, if you got to go, Ok,
but
>> >don't
>> >> >&g
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| Re: PARIS goes for OSCAR! [message #65295 is a reply to message #65294] |
Fri, 10 March 2006 05:45 |
pauln[2]
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t;>>>drag people away with you by knocking Paris. We need to encourage
>> >> >>>>>people
>> >> >>>>>to stick around. This NG is shrinking!
>> >> >>>>>I remember vary well a certain somebody, who I will leave unnamed;
>> >> )
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> raved
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>>about Nuendo for months on end. Now that certain somebody is
not
>> so
>> >>
>> >> >>>>>sure
>> >> >>>>>that Nuendo is better sounding than Paris! ; ) A couple of guys
>> >here
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> that
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>>thought Nuendo was the answer to Paris are now questioning Nuendo.
>> >> Some
>> >> >>>>>times other stuff just sounds different, and initially perceived
>> as
>> >>
>> >> >>>>>being
>> >> >>>>>better. Of course paris was left behind feature wise, and some
>> >people
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> love
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>>the whiz-bang of all that. Others prefer the capabilities and
the
>> >> >>>>>working
>> >> >>>>>methods of newer software. There will always be something to
come
>> >out
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> that
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>>will be more slick than Paris. Paris is still pretty slick and
>vary
>> >>
>> >> >>>>>useable.
>> >> >>>>>When combined with a second DAW for effect processing, Paris
>becomes
>> >>
>> >> >>>>>vary
>> >> >>>>>hard to beat.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>Many Paris commercial studio owners have expressed that they have,
>> or
>> >>
>> >> >>>>>are
>> >> >>>>>considering going with PT because it's "The industry standard".
>> Many
>> >>
>> >> >>>>>feel
>> >> >>>>>that if they don't jump to PT that they are losing business.
For
>> >some
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> people
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>>this is the case, and they need to do what they need to do.
>However,
>> >> it
>> >> >>>>>really should be based on the quality of the end result, not the
>> >> >>>>>equipment
>> >> >>>>>you use.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>Everybody has different needs. For most project studios, there
is
>> >> >>>>>really
>> >> >>>>>no need for an expensive system like PT, or 2K for Nuendo, plus
>the
>> >> cost
>> >> >>>>>of hardware. If your in a major market like N.Y., L.A.,
>Nashville,
>> >> or
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Austin,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>>then PT makes sense. For myself, I'm more in to recording live
>> >> >>>>>instruments,
>> >> >>>>>so paris works fine and sounds great. The day a record company
>wants
>> >> to
>> >> >>>>>give me a million dollars to record an album and insist on a SSL
>> 9000
>> >>
>> >> >>>>>and
>> >> >>>>>a PT system, I'll buy them. When it comes to making a record,
and
>> >your
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>talking
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>sound quality, Paris can stand toe to toe with any DAW in the
>world.
>> >>
>> >> >>>>>There
>> >> >>>>>have been some pretty big records done on Paris, just ask BT.
By
>> the
>> >>
>> >> >>>>>way,
>> >> >>>>>he still mixes with Paris!
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>Opinions are Ok, but I feel that post about PT that are in effect
>> >saying
>> >> >>>>>that PT is better than Paris, are not all that helpful to Paris
>> >users.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>>"Paul" <paul@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>Steve,
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>How does YOUR post help this newsgroup? You've been here what...
>> two
>> >>
>> >> >>>>>>weeks
>> >> >>>>>>now and this isn't the first time you've come out swinging.
Dave
>> is
>> >>
>> >> >>>>>>well
>> >> >>>>>>respected here and welcome to post whatever the hell he whats
to.
>> >OK?
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>Dave,
>> >> >>>>>>>This being a Paris forum and all,.... your post is helping and
>> >> >>>>>>>encouraging
>> >> >>>>>>>the Paris users How??
>> >> >>>>>>>Steve
>> >> >>>>>>>"Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>Howdy all,
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Havent dropped by in a month or so. Ill endeavour to drop
by
>> >> >>>>>>>> still.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>Alot
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>of interesting posts to shuffle through....
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >&
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