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| Compression while recording? [message #59445] |
Sun, 23 October 2005 14:20  |
cujo
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k">spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
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>>For whatever it's worth, I cut about 90% of my sessions
>>in 16 bit--it sounds fantastic, especially for the punchy
>>stuff. If it's real quiet acoustic stuff I go to the 24
>>bit. My mastering guy in Nashville (Randy LeRoy at Final Stage)
>>agrees, and says it sounds as good or better than most 24 bit stuff.
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| Re: Compression while recording? [message #59455 is a reply to message #59445] |
Sun, 23 October 2005 19:08  |
gene lennon
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hing that might complement what
> you've built. That DMR looks like it would make a helluva' digital patchbay
> ;o) How many of what kind of I/O will it accommodate?......you know, of
> course, that I'm gonna have to......
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:438b72db@linux...
>Where do you put the quarter in ? I hope it plays Country AND Western....
"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_nospam_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:43897c0a@linux...
> Simple...
>
> ;-)
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> David.
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"Rob Arsenault" <mani2@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:438a6688@linux...
> I got these off the group about 4 years ago from a fellow Parisite and
they
> still amaze me to this day, I listen to em every year.
> Does anyone remember who recorded these? I know they were done in Paris.
>
> ftp://xmas:xmas@156.34.14.36:21
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>"tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net> wrote:
>Where do you put the quarter in ?
BWAH HAH HA HA!!
Good one.
And actually it takes 5 bucks to play a tune. Oh, and it's MP3...
heh heh
DCScott, print this out and tape it to the inside of your paris rig for the
next round :)
As well, I think I included this stuff for Tony that he probably has up on
his website.
Sorry I didn't get to you sooner man, it's been crazy 'round here.
AA
"Scott L" <slang97@starband.net> wrote in message news:438b41ea$1@linux...
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> I got it,Thanks guys..
> Scott
>>
>>Im having problems getting the second card jumper cables in the right
>>spot,I
>>keep getting error messages that they're wired wrong, I went straight on
>>and crossed the 2 big ones.Is one end supposed to be upside down???
>>Thanks
>>Scott
>
I am actually trying to source a Behringer product right now
(gasp!!!!.....yeah....I know ;o). The only Behringer product that I have
ever used that worked well and as advertized is an AD/DA/format converter
called the Ultramatch Pro SRC 2496. I've got one and need another one in
order to do something else bizarre with my routing matrix. Anyway, I have
scoured the internet for one of these to no avail. I was talking to a
retailer in Nashville earlier today and was told that this and the ADA8000
may not be showing up again due to a patent infringement situation involving
Apogee. I'm wondering if this is true. Anyone else heard this? Anyone got an
Ultramatch Pro FS? I need one yesterday. They are backordered everythere
with mid-January as the projected date for filling orders.Sorry, I think I finally figured out this DNS re-directing stuff. This one
should s
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| Re: Compression while recording? [message #59458 is a reply to message #59455] |
Sun, 23 October 2005 19:43 |
Carl Amburn
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gt;
>Hi Kim, it has to do with passive mode, whatever that means. I disabled that
option in my IE/tools/internet options/advanced/ passive ftp mode........
and got in. Also used FTP program with passive mode disable and got in.
I need to figure out this FTP-ing stuff, got to send some project files off
to get mastered soon.
Rob
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:438bc111$1@linux...
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> Still no good for me. I get "Error Code: 502 Proxy Error. The login
> request
> was denied."
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> "Rob Arsenault" <mani2@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>>Sorry, I think I finally figured out this DNS re-directing stuff. This one
>>should stick.
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>>ftp://xmas:xmas@manitou.serveftp.net
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>>"Rob Arsenault" <mani2@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>news:438a6688@linux...
>>> I got these off the group about 4 years ago from a fellow Parisite and
>>they
>>> still amaze me to this day, I listen to em every year.
>>> Does anyone remember who recorded these? I know they were done in Paris.
>>>
>>> ftp://xmas:xmas@156.34.14.36:21
>>>
>>>
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>Hmm. I'm on Firefox and can't find an option like that. Too busy right now.
Will have another look tonight.
Cheers,
Kim.
"Rob Arsenault" <info@studiomanitou.com> wrote:
>Hi Kim, it has to do with passive mode, whatever that means. I disabled
that
>option in my IE/tools/internet options/advanced/ passive ftp mode........
>and got in. Also used FTP program with passive mode disable and got in.
>
>I need to figure out this FTP-ing stuff, got to send some project files
off
>to get mastered soon.
>
>Rob
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:438bc111$1@linux...
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>>
>> Still no good for me. I get "Error Code: 502 Proxy Error. The login
>> request
>> was denied."
>>
>>
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>> "Rob Arsenault" <mani2@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>>>Sorry, I think I finally figured out this DNS re-directing stuff. This
one
>>>should stick.
>>>
>>>ftp://xmas:xmas@manitou.serveftp.net
>>>
>>>
>>>"Rob Arsenault" <mani2@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:438a6688@linux...
>>>> I got these off the group about 4 years ago from a fellow Parisite and
>>>they
>>>> still amaze me to this day, I listen to em every year.
>>>> Does anyone remember who recorded these? I know they were done in Paris.
>>>>
>>>> ftp://xmas:xmas@156.34.14.36:21
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
>I am cleaning up the rental place here prepping for a move, and have
included a pic of a problem I'd like to rectify. As you can see, I have WAY
too many remote controls in my living area, and I want to tone the house of
a thousand buttons down. The battery cost alone is deadly, LOL.
Has anybody out there seen a decent solution to this gaggle of remotes I end
up dealing with just trying to relax in front of a movie? Preferences would
include, lighting in the dark, common buttons actually being 'common' (IE,
play means play for the DVD, VCR, etc...) and not having to reteach the
thing when changing out batteries. I'd rather not own a surfboard with
buttons on it, but I understand I have a load of stuff to control.. function
keys or macros would
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| Re: Compression while recording? [message #59482 is a reply to message #59445] |
Mon, 24 October 2005 09:19 |
Gary Flanigan
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r about an hour ....recording on Paris,
with the assertion message sitting on the middle of the screen. (no clients
present, obvioulsy)switching windows, dragging 14 tracks of drums to and
from jails....while playing, recording new takes, saveing, save as, etc.
Only when I tried to "delete last take" did it lock up on me. I had to close
out the assertion window. Only then did Paris crash, as I expected. I'm just
posting this finding in case this ever happens during a magic take, or whatever,
just let it go. When you can, do a save as, for safety, then click on the
message and reboot. I kind of felt like Kramer when he tested the limits
of the gas tank. Living on the edge.
:-)
Rodyeah,...just say no...;o)
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 08:55:35 -0700, EK Sound
<spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>Spend less time in front of the T
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| Re: Compression while recording? [message #59511 is a reply to message #59490] |
Mon, 24 October 2005 17:57 |
Aaron Allen
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S? I need one yesterday. They are backordered everythere
> >>with mid-January as the projected date for filling orders.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>I could never achieve reliable sync when the water levels in my MECs were
low. Also, changing the helium cannisters occasionally will mke a big
difference.
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:438d9065$1@linux...
> Huh??
>
> --
> Martin Harrington
> www.lendanear-sound.com
>
> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8mtqo1pbb4o9ugf5g2nb84b41kmhjoeedj@4ax.com...
> > and once you turn the water on pretty much everything goes to hell.
> >
> > On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:15:33 +1100, "Martin Harrington"
> > <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> >
> >>It is almost inpossible to do, Demitrios.
> >>The best way is to make Paris the slave, (to a timecode track).
> >>Then use a syncroniser to lock them.
> >
>
>Having only just seen this one video clip, I don't know what else he
likes to play or is capable of playing. Maybe he plays other styles as
well. Maybe he rips through Bach on classical guitar?
I enjoyed the clip. Was it a student recital in a music store? Pretty
good, for that.
Hope he's wearing ear plugs or he'll be deaf in his "older" days,
unplugged or not...
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
erlilo wrote:
> I'm with you here. He have plenty of years to come to find out there's more
> than just technic and heavy sound. Just look how many old
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| Re: Compression while recording? [message #59596 is a reply to message #59595] |
Thu, 27 October 2005 01:00 |
Tom Bruhl
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raging, Orwellian marketspeak, and swallowing
other companies while killing a lot of great competitive tech and
promoting marginal tech, that kind of behavior doesn't endear much respect.
I got into Macs this time around because of OSX and the continued
strides being made with OSX production software. After years of
misdirection with OS7-8-9 and failed attempts to significantly progress,
with OSX Apple was able to push the envelope to provide improved
technology for computing, media production, and lately, media distribution.
I'm not saying Apple is perfect, there are disadvantages to some of
their decisions and they have had a lot of reports from me to help them
improve. :^) But the advantages of OSX, generally solid hardware like
the current dual G5s, and a steady stream of capable software transcend
the disadvantages right now.
Good luck with your computer and music pursuits! When the time comes to
move your music production over to Linux I'd love to hear how it goes.
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
TCB wrote:
> I was just busting your chops a bit. I yam what I yam.
>
> On the "desktop" OS front I have converted 100% to Debian GNU/Linux. I still
> have one M$oft box for my audio stuff (until Live, CubaseSX, VST, and a ton
> of other things get ported to GNU/Linux I have no choice), but everything
> else runs on GNU/Linux. I have to say whenver I use a desktop that isn't
> Gnome and doesn't give me immediate access to a powerful command line I feel
> like I'm running on one leg. There are some bumps along the road, and I have
> to install some non free software for remote access to work (including some
> kernel patches that are a PITA), but it's been worth every bit of the effort.
> Now that I'm doing computer work again for a living I'm happy to be free
> of proprietary software as much as humanly possible. For me all proprietary
> systems like OS X, XP, Vista, BeOS, and everything else are all roughly equivalent
> evils--places I have to spend some time in order to make a living.
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
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>>Heh. Yep Thad, I'm running it on BeOS, maybe that's the problem? ;^)
>>
>>Time for a BeOS report I guess. Palm bought BeOS and hired members of
>>the engineering team. Your Palm's operating system now benefits.
>>
>>Be retained the right to sue Microsoft for closing them out of the OS
>>market for Intel boxes through illegally restrictive OEM agreements.
>>Microsoft paid millions to settle. Chump change.
>>
>>Wish it had been different. BeOS was full of great tech. Imagine where
>>it could be today.
>>
>>Heck, for that matter imagine where PARIS could be today, if only...
>>
>>More on BeOS:
>>http://www.birdhouse.org/beos/byte/30-bootloader/
>>http://www.itjungle.com/mid/mid022702-story06.html
>>http://www.mv-voice.com/morgue/2003/2003_09_26.bisi.html
>>
>>Meanwhile OSX has been steadily improving and has some good stuff. Oddly
>
>
>>I ran Logic all day
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| Re: Compression while recording? [message #59598 is a reply to message #59597] |
Thu, 27 October 2005 05:33 |
Deej [1]
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ailto:nobody@ishere.com" target="_blank">nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:438f5066$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>You're running this on BeOS, right?
>>>>
>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'm using Logic "Pro" 7.1 on a dual 2.5GHZ G5 running OSX. Logic would
>>>>>be "Pro" if it didn't crash. Of course OSX doesn't go down when Logic
>>>>>does but it's still an interruption to restart Logic when it happens.
>>>>>Some of that may be a hardware problem with my rig, I'm tracking down
>
> a
>
>>>>>possible HD glitch right now.
>>>>>
>>>>>The other thing about Logic is there is a bit of a learning curve. Most
>>>>
>>>>>things are straight forward but a few things are obtuse. You might give
>>>>
>>>>>yourself a few weeks to come up to speed, depending on what your needs
>>>
>>>are.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Those negatives aside, Logic has come a long way and it rocks. It has
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> an
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>>>>>incredible selection of useful plugins for convolution reverb,
>>>>>compression, limiting, distortion, EQ, etc. It also includes a good
>>>>>variety of excellent virtual instrument/synth plugins, and great third
>>>>>party plugins are readily available. It really is a virtual studio and
>>>>>I'm very happy with the tracks I'm producing. C'mon over and check it
>>>&
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| Re: Compression while recording? [message #59599 is a reply to message #59596] |
Thu, 27 October 2005 05:38 |
cujo
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gt;>out if you're ever in the neighborhood.
>>>>>
>>>>>Everything is automatable. Mixers show as many tracks as you have. The
>>>>>MIDI features are comprehensive. Logic can play video files for film
>>>>>scoring.
>>>>>
>>>>>The G5 processors support so many plugins and tracks that I rarely have
>>>>
>>>>>to "freeze" anything, it's all live. But if I ever need more CPU
>>>>>overhead, freezing a track converts a track and all plugin operations
>
> to
>
>>>>>an audio file. It can be unfrozen if any editing is needed. There's also
>>>>
>>>>>an option to network with another Mac to farm out CPU time but I've
>>>>>never needed that with the G5. BTW, the new dual core dual processor
>
> G5
>
>>>>>box is somewhere around twice as fast as mine. Whoa.
>>>>>
>>>>>If at all possible, you should try to mix on each of the systems you're
>>>>
>>>>>considering and see if the sound pleases your ear. The i/o you choose
>>>>>will also matter. Like Tony I'm using a MOTU 828MII which has been a
>>>>>decent sounding, reliable piece of gear, and there are many other
>>>>>options to consider. You can combine several i/o devices if you need
>
> to
>
>>>>>expand to additional channels. If you need flying faders there are
>>>>>several choices with or without built-in i/o.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>-Jamie
>>>>>http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>Tony Benson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I suppose it would depend on your style of mixing, but I've been really
>>>>
>>>>>>happy lately using DP 4.6 and PARIS. I track and mix first in DP to
>>>
>>>take
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>advantage of any virtual instruments I might want to use, and any
>>>
>>>plugins
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>that won't work in PARIS. I'm using a MOTU 828 Mk2 firewire interface
>>>>
>>>>that
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>actually sounds pretty good. It doesn't add any character while
>>>
>>>recording,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>but that's what I'm wanting at this stage. This first mix is basically
>>>>
>>>>just
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>a "get it close" type mix. I usually don't use any EQ plugins in DP
>>>
>>>opting
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>for the nice PARIS EQ's instead. Once I've got things close in DP I
>>>
>>>freeze
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>all the tracks (equivalent to rendering with plugins in PARIS). Then
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> I
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>>>>>>export the frozen DP tracks as 24 bit .wav files. Then I boot to OS9
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>
>>>>use
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>SonicWorx to convert the .wavs to 24 bit .paf files. Then I o
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| Re: Compression while recording? [message #59603 is a reply to message #59599] |
Thu, 27 October 2005 09:14 |
Tom Bruhl
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t;Thanks for your suggestions.
I have rendered using the hardware method via adat and achieved one nice
compact stereo track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved all audio files
on new folder and saved under new name I used the clear missing files just
before that but again no luck when I put a stereo native effect on this stereotrack
even without hitting play when I try to save assertion fails and doesn't
allow of any save !
Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve ...
rEGARDS,
dIMITRIOS
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
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>Dimitrios,
>Rendering is your answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In stereo
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>the right side=20
>won't have any effect. Double check to see that their timing is correct
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>too.
>Some people have problems with that.
>Tom
> "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message news:43900b57$1@linux...
> There you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =
>after that=20
> each stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will do the
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>job=20
> when saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if something
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>are=20
> going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of =
>the=20
> stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in version 2, =
>when=20
> mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and right and =
>muting all=20
> other tracks. Then you can import them into the project again on their
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>old=20
> places and give them new names.
>
> Erling
>
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding =
>news:439000f1$1@linux...
> >
> > Hi,
> > Thanks for your replies.
> > What I have managed is to have the same start and end for both audio
=
>files
> > just by cutting at cursor pointy on both tracks.
> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of themhas different cut points
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>and=20
> > joint
> > points , does this matter?
> > If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not actually stereo
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>but
> > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different parts
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>on=20
> > each
> > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on time.
> > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the stereo perspective
=
>of=20
> > them
> > pl;aying hard left and hard right.
> > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!
> > Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility , not like =
>waves=20
> > imager
> > at all...
> > Cheers,
> > DImitrios
> >
> >
> > "Ennio" <ennio@galicorp.net> wrote:
> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the stereo file must
=
>be
> > at
> >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down you can =
>go on
> > the
> >>zoom tool)
> >>
> >>"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message news:438f4d36@linux...
> >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no different
=
>holes
> >>in
> >>> any of the stereo objects?
> >>>
> >>> Erling
> >>>
> >>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding=20
> >>> news:438f3760$1@linux...
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi,
> >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I try to put a
=
>
> >>> > stereo
> >>> > native
> >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix when I try to save I =
>always
> > get
> >>> > assertion
> >>> > failed and cannot save either on same name or other...
> >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as I did before
=
>but
> >>don't
> >>> > know why Paris doesn't let to...
> >>> > Regards,
> >>> > Dimitrios
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rendering is your answer. Don't =
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> wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of the=20
> <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in version 2,
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>muting=20
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>href=3D"news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&g=
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> Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have managed is to =
>have=20
> the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by cutting at =
>cursor=20
> pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =
>themhas=20
> different cut points and <BR>> joint<BR>> points , does this=20
> matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not =
>actually=20
> stereo but<BR>> two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had =
>tomove=20
> different parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to =
>make them=20
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>stereo=20
> perspective of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and hard=20
> right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening =
>knob ??=20
> !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =
>not like=20
> waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=20
> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the =
>stereo=20
> file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the =
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> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
>message <A=20
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>href=3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>>>> =
>Is it=20
> exactly the same length on each stereo files or no different=20
> holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the stereo=20
> objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=20
> Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i =
>melding=20
> <BR>>>> <A=20
> =
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>t;=20
> ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =
>finished my=20
> project mixing and when I try to put a <BR>>>> >=20
> stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > effect on any =
>audio=20
> track on any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =
>get<BR>>>>=20
> > assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on =
>same name=20
> or other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use =
>stereo=20
> effects as I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know =
>why=20
> Paris doesn't let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>> =
>>=20
> =
>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>=
>=20
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Dimitrios,
Are you saying you can save before this stereo plugin
is inserted? I'd say you may have a rouge plugin that
your wrapper or Paris just doesn't like. Try the same thing
in a different project. ie: Same stereo plugin inserted
on another stereo pair of tracks. Now can you save?
If so it may be your project. If not it's probably your plugin.
Good luck,
Tom
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:43906b78$1@linux...
Thanks for your suggestions.
I have rendered using the hardware method via adat and achieved one =
nice
compact stereo track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved all audio =
files
on new folder and saved under new name I used the clear missing files =
just
before that but again no luck when I put a stereo native effect on =
this stereotrack
even without hitting play when I try to save assertion fails and =
doesn't
allow of any save !
Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve ...
rEGARDS,
dIMITRIOS
"Tom Bruhl" <a
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| Re: Compression while recording? [message #59604 is a reply to message #59599] |
Thu, 27 October 2005 11:28 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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rpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Dimitrios,
>Rendering is your answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In =
stereo
=3D
>the right side=3D20
>won't have any effect. Double check to see that their timing is =
correct
=3D
>too.
>Some people have problems with that.
>Tom
> "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =
news:43900b57$1@linux...
> There you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =
=3D
>after that=3D20
> each stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will do =
the
=3D
>job=3D20
> when saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if =
something
=3D
>are=3D20
> going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some =
of =3D
>the=3D20
> stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in version 2, =
=3D
>when=3D20
> mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and right and =
=3D
>muting all=3D20
> other tracks. Then you can import them into the project again on =
their
=3D
>old=3D20
> places and give them new names.
>
> Erling
>
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding =3D
>news:439000f1$1@linux...
> >
> > Hi,
> > Thanks for your replies.
> > What I have managed is to have the same start and end for both =
audio
=3D
>files
> > just by cutting at cursor pointy on both tracks.
> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of themhas different cut =
points
=3D
>and=3D20
> > joint
> > points , does this matter?
> > If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not actually =
stereo
=3D
>but
> > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different =
parts
=3D
>on=3D20
> > each
> > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on time.
> > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the stereo =
perspective
=3D
>of=3D20
> > them
> > pl;aying hard left and hard right.
> > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!
> > Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility , not like =
=3D
>waves=3D20
> > imager
> > at all...
> > Cheers,
> > DImitrios
> >
> >
> > "Ennio" <ennio@galicorp.net> wrote:
> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the stereo file =
must
=3D
>be
> > at
> >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down you =
can =3D
>go on
> > the
> >>zoom tool)
> >>
> >>"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =
news:438f4d36@linux...
> >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no =
different
=3D
>holes
> >>in
> >>> any of the stereo objects?
> >>>
> >>> Erling
> >>>
> >>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding=3D20
> >>> news:438f3760$1@linux...
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi,
> >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I try to =
put a
=3D
>
> >>> > stereo
> >>> > native
> >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix when I try to save I =
=3D
>always
> > get
> >>> > assertion
> >>> > failed and cannot save either on same name or other...
> >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as I did =
before
=3D
>but
> >>don't
> >>> > know why Paris doesn't let to...
> >>> > Regards,
> >>> > Dimitrios
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >=3D20
>
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rendering is your answer. Don't =
=3D
>render tracks=3D20
>with plugins. In stereo the right side </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT =
face=3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D2>have any=3D20
>effect. Double check to see that their timing is correct =3D
>too.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Some people have problems with =
=3D
>that.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D
>href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D20
> wrote in message <A=3D20
> =
href=3D3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>There
=3D
>you have=3D20
> the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look after that =
<BR>each
=3D
>
> stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will do the =
job =3D
><BR>when=3D20
> saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if something =
are =3D
><BR>going=3D20
> wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of =
the=3D20
> <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in version =
2,
=3D
>when=3D20
> <BR>mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and right =
and =3D
>muting=3D20
> all <BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the project =
again
=3D
>on their=3D20
> old <BR>places and give them new =3D
>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>"Dimitrios"=3D20
> <<A href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
=3D
>skrev i=3D20
> melding <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&g=
=3D
>t;=3D20
> Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have managed is to =
=3D
>have=3D20
> the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by cutting at =
=3D
>cursor=3D20
> pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =
=3D
>themhas=3D20
> different cut points and <BR>> joint<BR>> points , does this=3D20
> matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not =
=3D
>actually=3D20
> stereo but<BR>> two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D
>tomove=3D20
> different parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to =3D
>make them=3D20
> on time.<BR>> I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the =3D
>stereo=3D20
> perspective of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and hard=3D20
> right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening =3D
>knob ??=3D20
> !!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =
=3D
>not like=3D20
> waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D20
> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the =3D
>stereo=3D20
> file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the =3D
>sample=3D20
> (the furthest down you can go on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D20
> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
=3D
>message <A=3D20
> =3D
>href=3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>>>> =3D
>Is it=3D20
> exactly the same length on each stereo files or no different=3D20
> holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the stereo=3D20
> objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D20
> Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev =
i =3D
>melding=3D20
> <BR>>>> <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=3D=
>t;=3D20
> ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D
>finished my=3D20
> project mixing and when I try to put a <BR>>>> >=3D20
> stereo<BR>>>> > native<BR>>>> > effect on any =3D
>audio=3D20
> track on any submix when I try to save I always<BR>> =3D
>get<BR>>>>=3D20
> > assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on =3D
>same name=3D20
> or other...<BR>>>> > The problem is that I want to use =3D
>stereo=3D20
> effects as I did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know =3D
>why=3D20
> Paris doesn't let to...<BR>>>> > Regards,<BR>>>> =3D
>>=3D20
> =3D
>Dimitrios<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>=3D
>=3D20
> <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are you saying you can save before this =
stereo=20
plugin</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is inserted? I'd say you may have =
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like. Try=20
the same thing</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in a different project. ie: Same =
stereo=20
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| Re: Compression while recording? [message #59610 is a reply to message #59604] |
Thu, 27 October 2005 15:19 |
cujo
Messages: 285
Registered: July 2005
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Senior Member |
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cutting at cursor =
pointy on=20
both tracks.<BR>> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =
themhas=20
different cut points<BR>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>> > =
joint<BR>> =20
> points , does this matter?<BR>> > If you ask me why =
it is=20
because these tracks are not actually =
stereo<BR>=3D<BR>>but<BR>> =20
> two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different=20
parts<BR>=3D<BR>>on=3D20<BR>> > each<BR>> > =
of the=20
"stereo" tracks to make them on time.<BR>> > I want a =
stereo=20
effect because I wanna expand the stereo=20
perspective<BR>=3D<BR>>of=3D20<BR>> > =
them<BR>> >=20
pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>> > Have you tried =
T-racks=20
compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!<BR>> > Amazing =
stereo=20
result with complete mono compatibility , not like=20
=3D<BR>>waves=3D20<BR>> > imager<BR>> > at=20
all...<BR>> > Cheers,<BR>> > =
DImitrios<BR>> =20
><BR>> ><BR>> > "Ennio" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both =
sides of=20
the stereo file must<BR>=3D<BR>>be<BR>> > =
at<BR>> =20
>>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down you =
can=20
=3D<BR>>go on<BR>> > the<BR>> >>zoom=20
tool)<BR>> >><BR>> >>"erlilo" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
href=3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>> =20
>>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no=20
different<BR>=3D<BR>>holes<BR>> >>in<BR>> =20
>>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>> =20
>>><BR>> >>> Erling<BR>> =20
>>><BR>> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i=20
melding=3D20<BR>> >>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=20
>>> ><BR>> >>> > Hi,<BR>> =20
>>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I =
try to=20
put a<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>> >>> > =
stereo<BR>> =20
>>> > native<BR>> >>> > effect on any =
audio=20
track on any submix when I try to save I =
=3D<BR>>always<BR>> >=20
get<BR>> >>> > assertion<BR>> =
>>> >=20
failed and cannot save either on same name or other...<BR>> =20
>>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as =
I did=20
before<BR>=3D<BR>>but<BR>> >>don't<BR>> =
>>>=20
> know why Paris doesn't let to...<BR>> >>> >=20
Regards,<BR>> >>> > Dimitrios<BR>> =20
>>><BR>> >>><BR>> =
>><BR>> =20
>><BR>> =
>=3D20<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=20
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Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD> <BR>><META=20
http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
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content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
6.00.2800.1400"=20
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name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE> <BR>></HEA=
D><BR>><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DI V> <BR>><DIV><F=
ONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rendering is your answer. Don't =
=3D<BR>>render=20
tracks=3D20<BR>>with plugins. In stereo the right side=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial =
=3D<BR>>size=3D3D2>have=20
any=3D20<BR>>effect. Double check to see that their timing is =
correct=20
=3D<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Some people have problems with=20
=3D<BR>>that.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>=
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
#000000 2px=20
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"erlilo" =
<<A=20
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D20'>mailto:erlil=
o@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D20</A><BR>> =20
wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>There'>n=
ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=
ere</A><BR>=3D<BR>>you=20
have=3D20<BR>> the problem. I think rendering the tracks and =
look after=20
that <BR>each<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>> stereopair is =
starting and=20
ending at the same places will do the job=20
=3D<BR>><BR>when=3D20<BR>> saving under a new name, =
just to be=20
sure to go back if something are =
=3D<BR>><BR>going=3D20<BR>> =20
wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of=20
the=3D20<BR>> <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the =
old, hard=20
way, as in version 2,<BR>=3D<BR>>when=3D20<BR>> =
<BR>mixing down=20
each stereopair with panning hard left and right and=20
=3D<BR>>muting=3D20<BR>> all <BR>other tracks. Then =
you can=20
import them into the project again<BR>=3D<BR>>on =
their=3D20<BR>> old=20
<BR>places and give them new=20
=
=3D<BR> >names.<BR><BR>Erling& ;lt;BR><BR><BR>=
"Dimitrios"=3D20<BR>> =20
<<A href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>>skrev i=3D20<BR>> melding <A=3D20<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=
><BR>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20 <BR>> =20
Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have =
managed=20
is to =3D<BR>>have=3D20<BR>> the same start and end for =
both audio=20
files<BR>> just by cutting at =
=3D<BR>>cursor=3D20<BR>> pointy=20
on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each of=20
=3D<BR>>themhas=3D20<BR>> different cut points and =
<BR>>=20
joint<BR>> points , does this=3D20<BR>> =
matter?<BR>>=20
If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not=20
=3D<BR>>actually=3D20<BR>> stereo but<BR>> two =
takes of=20
acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D<BR>>tomove=3D20<BR>> =
different=20
parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to=20
=3D<BR>>make them=3D20<BR>> on time.<BR>> I want =
a stereo=20
effect because I wanna expand the =3D<BR>>stereo=3D20<BR>> =
perspective=20
of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and=20
hard=3D20<BR>> right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks =
compressor's=20
stereo widening =3D<BR>>knob ??=3D20<BR>> !!<BR>> =
Amazing=20
stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =3D<BR>>not=20
like=3D20<BR>> waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at=20
all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
DImitrios<BR>><BR>> ;<BR>> "Ennio"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:e=
nnio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>>&n=
bsp;=20
wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides =
of the=20
=3D<BR>>stereo=3D20<BR>> file must be<BR>>=20
at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the=20
=3D<BR>>sample=3
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