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Tue, 22 May 2007 12:07

Gantt Kushner

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Gantt Kushner
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www.gizmorecording.com

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Re: Yikes!!! (I meant to say) Way OFF topic... [message #84998 is a reply to message #84997]

Tue, 22 May 2007 12:07

Gantt Kushner

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Gantt Kushner
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Re: Yikes!!! (I meant to say) Way OFF topic... [message #84999 is a reply to message #84998]

Tue, 22 May 2007 12:41

dc[3]
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Re: Yikes!!! Way of topic... [message #85000 is a reply to message #84997]

Tue, 22 May 2007 12:37

Deej [4]

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Re: Yikes!!! (I meant to say) Way OFF topic... [message #85010 is a reply to message #84999]

Tue, 22 May 2007 16:55

Dedric Terry

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he reverbs sounded as digital as pretty much
anything I've ever heard.

So, does the DM2K sound _completely_ different than their previous digital
gear?

TCBI said this over a year ago! It would be my first choice for tracking and
mix down if I was going to go with a analog board.

Graham Duncan <graham@grahamduncan.com> wrote:
>The best deal in an analog board for tracking/monitoring has to be the
>Toft ATB:
>
>http://mercenary.com/toaudeatbmi.html
>
>
>GrahamIf you go look it up on gear slutz you will get a better idea of what went
on with the delays of this board. It had to do with the company that was
manufacturing the power supply, and other minor things. Design changes slowed
it up also, they wanted to get it right. They are on their second run of
this board. One of the cool things they did was, they asked the customers
what they wanted in the board. They made design changes to accommodate the
customers wishes. They talked to customers for almost a year before they
started manufacturing the board. The changes they made are geared to modern
recording with a DAW.

You can find audio samples from customers that now have the ATB. One guy
A-B it against a Studer console. Check it out.

They are going to make a A-Range, but it will be 30K up most likely.

"wireline" <ken@cheezeandcrackers.edu> wrote:
>
>I heard the working prototype at Summer NAMM in Austin a summer or two back...got
>to audition the board a bit, talked with Alan Hyatt for a while, etc...
>
>Althought it wasn't by any means a bad board, from what I heard 1st hand
>regarding EQ, summing, bus assigns, etc, it is not even in the same league
>as even the mid-higher grade boards from the 80s and 90s (Souncraft 200,
>Soundtrac

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Re: Yikes!!! (I meant to say) Way OFF topic... [message #85012 is a reply to message #85010]

Tue, 22 May 2007 18:20

dc[3]
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n to give it the mojo that he's known to impart to his circuitry.
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>> .
>>> "Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46759d1e$1@linux...
>>>> I think you could more easily do all your automation in Cubase -
>>>> you could use this board for EQ & summing on mixdown. Still
>>>> haven't found a plugin EQ that sounds like an analog one, so
>>>> I guess that's what I'd like to have it for.
>>>>
>>>> In termsof the tracking phase of things, it'd be nice to have
>>>> for monitor mixes, as with any console. I have enough pre's for
>>>> most tasks, but I sure like that Trident sound... wonder if
>>>> these boards really get you there?
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>> I called PMI about 8 months ago about this board. No automation options.
>>>>> What a POS.
>>>>>
>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Graham Duncan" <graham@grahamduncan.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:46759699$1@linux...
>>>>>> Yeah, I'd like to hear one. If Fletcher AND Tchad Blake dig it, that
>>>> says
>>>>>> something to me. ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Graham
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris Ludwig wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Graham,
>>>>&

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Re: Yikes!!! (I meant to say) Way OFF topic... [message #85021 is a reply to message #85010]

Tue, 22 May 2007 20:05

Sarah

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Registered: February 2007

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;>>>
>>>>>> http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Octane-main.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really don't we (me included) are stuck on RME. While I have 2 cards
>>>> and
>>>>>> love them for their good overall sound and driver support, their are
>>> others
>>>>>> that are just as good and better.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Still the best over all performance and driver support and at this
point
>>>>> I've installed and tested way too many sound cards and in the end the
>>
>>>>> ones that have had the lest troubels and the most responsive support

>>>>> have been RME. BTW that new Micstasy Pre-amp they have sound fricking
>>
>>>>> amazing as well as the new AD/DA they the the ADI8-QS and being able
to
>>>>> daisy chain them via MADI has made for killer live setups.
>>>>> We're gonna be first of the PCI-e version of the HDSP cards in about
2
>>>>> weeks which will be nice for Apple users.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HI Dan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Focusrite does not sound nowhere near is as good as Paris.
>>>>>>> If you need to use firewire on your new system then save up more
money
>>>>>>> for either a RME Fireface 400 or 800 or for a Motu 828 or 896.
>>>>>>> Both have far nicer analog I/O and better digital clocks. If you
need
>>>>>>> more AD/DA and or Mic-pres then the Presonus Digimax FS converters
>> that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John recommends are the best sounding stand alone converters I've
heard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> under $1000.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> I'm considering moving to another system. Probably Cubase on PC
and
>>>> laptop.
>>>>>>>> Although I might be tempted to stay if I can pick up a Magma unit
>> for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> a

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Re: Yikes!!! (I meant to say) Way OFF topic... [message #85024 is a reply to message #85012]

Tue, 22 May 2007 21:27

Dedric Terry

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/> > much
>
>>>anything I've ever heard.
>>>
>>>So, does the DM2K sound _completely_ different than their previous digital
>>>gear?
>>>
>>>TCB
>>
>Having to rebuild my system - if I recall, there were some zip files of
presets for the EDS verbs and compressors, etc - can anyone point me to
those preset files?

Thanks!http://www.mixosaurus.com/ It sounds great..This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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LaMont,
They sound really authentic! Not inexpensive either.
Tom

"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:4679be8f$1@linux...

http://www.mixosaurus.com/ It sounds great..

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>LaMont,
>They sound really authentic! Not inexpensive ei

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Re: Yikes!!! (I meant to say) Way OFF topic... [message #85028 is a reply to message #85024]

Tue, 22 May 2007 22:28

DC
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; EQ, too, but that's an opto unit - and if my 737 is any
> indication, it might not have enough "attitude". Anyone ever
> try two 737's linked across a 2-buss? (I only have one, so I
> can't try it) how did that work? Anyone using anything they
> like that you think might get me where I need to go?
>
>
> Neil"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>You need to insert a Neve Portico 5042 on your master bus "after" your
>limiter and crank the drive to get that extra 3dB and tape sat........if
you
>don't, you will die
>
>You knew deep down inside that you would be getting one of these, didn't

>you?
>
><evil grin>

I have no doubt it sounds great, but I dunno if that's going to
get me another 2 db RMS... I am hearing about mastering houses
using convertors like Lavry Gold's & Prism's - convertors that
cost like $15k - convertors that won't distort, no matter what
you throw at 'em - and just lighting 'em up like christmas
trees. One place apparently has rack covers over their
convertors so the clients can't see them fire up & start
panicking, thinking something's gone incredibly wrong lol.

If that's what the latest trick is, then ain't no way I ca

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