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| OT; Who was the first president of th US? [message #69983] |
Thu, 06 July 2006 02:42  |
rick
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sertion that there are no miracles, that God does not
> >> care if we have a we to know Him or not, that things proceeded in
> >> the past as they do today, and Jesus' death and resurrection are
> >> human myths created, as all "god talk" is, by humans to comfort
> >> themselves...
> >>
> >> You may not be an atheist, but you accept *all* of their basic
> >> assumptions about existence.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Meanwhile, back to the original topic: picture 100,000 dead Iraqis
> >>> (conservative estimate). Picture them all together in a pile. What
do
> >> you
> >>> think . . . would it fill a football stadium, like a big bowl of brown
> >>> rice?
> >>> I don't know, but now tell me how many of those were terrorists? 100?
> >> 500?
> >>> 1000? It doesn't matter does it? Not to those who were innocent and
> >>> their
> >>> families.
> >>>
> >>> Now picture 2500 dead American soldiers and the 62,000 wounded or
maimed.
> >>> If we were lied into this "war" based on hidden agendas, I can think
of
> >> some
> >>> heads of state whose heads should roll. They probably won't, but it's
a
> >>> nice thought. Picture Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld in orange jumpsuits
and
> >>> chains . . . ni-i-i-i-i-ice. I feel better.
> >>>
> >>> Sarah
> >>
> >> And it is this view that conerns me that we, as a people, are no
> >> longer able to protect freedom. There were innocents killed in all
> >> wars. This is no different. Would you broadcast from Dresden
> >> or Nagasaki calling for the jailing of Truman? By your rules, you
> >> would have to.
> >>
> >> We now have a whole generation of people who cannot bring themselves to
do
> >> what they must to protect our way of life.
> >> Given that we face the most evil and implacable enemy in many
> >> years, I am not sure that we will retain the freedom that those
> >> WWII vets you admire so much, fought and died for.
> >>
> >> And finally, notice please, not one word of condemnation for the
> >> ghouls and head choppers. Those who would use baby bottles
> >> for binary explosives and die, with their infant in their arms, to kill
> >> some of us. Not one word. This is why you simply are not
> >> convincing me here. It is selective pacifism, pointed only at
> >> Israel and the west and there is no righteousness in it.
> >>
> >> DC
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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James
"DC" <dc@spammersinnyc.com> wrote:
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| Re: OT; Who was the first president of th US? [message #69993 is a reply to message #69989] |
Thu, 06 July 2006 08:55  |
jef knight[1]
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know Him or not, that things proceeded in
>>>> the past as they do today, and Jesus' death and resurrection are
>>>> human myths created, as all "god talk" is, by humans to comfort
>>>> themselves...
>>>>
>>>> You may not be an atheist, but you accept *all* of their basic
>>>> assumptions about existence.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile, back to the original topic: picture 100,000 dead Iraqis
>>>>> (conservative estimate). Picture them all together in a pile. What
> do
>>>> you
>>>>> think . . . would it fill a football stadium, like a big bowl of brown
>>>>> rice?
>>>>> I don't know, but now tell me how many of those were terrorists? 100?
>>>> 500?
>>>>> 1000? It doesn't matter does it? Not to those who were innocent and
>>>>> their
>>>>> families.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now picture 2500 dead American soldiers and the 62,000 wounded or
> maimed.
>>>>> If we were lied into this "war" based on hidden agendas, I can think
> of
>>>> some
>>>>> heads of state whose heads should roll. They probably won't, but it's
> a
>>>>> nice thought. Picture Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld in orange jumpsuits
> and
>>>>> chains . . . ni-i-i-i-i-ice. I feel better.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sarah
>>>> And it is this view that conerns me that we, as a people, are no
>>>> longer able to protect freedom. There were innocents killed in all
>>>> wars. This is no different. Would you broadcast from Dresden
>>>> or Nagasaki calling for the jailing of Truman? By your rules, you
>>>> would have to.
>>>>
>>>> We now have a whole generation of people who cannot bring themselves to
> do
>>>> what they must to protect our way of life.
>>>> Given that we face the most evil and implacable enemy in many
>>>> years, I am not sure that we will retain the freedom that those
>>>> WWII vets you admire so much, fought and died for.
>>>>
>>>> And finally, notice please, not one word of condemnation for the
>>>> ghouls and head choppers. Those who would use baby bottles
>>>> for binary explosives and die, with their infant in their arms, to kill
>>>> some of us. Not one word. This is why you simply are not
>>>> convincing me here. It is selective pacifism, pointed only at
>>>> Israel and the west and there is no righteousness in it.
>>>>
>>>> DC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>8/15/06 ACSI report
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=265
http://news.com.com/PC+users+cant+get+no+satisfaction/2100-1 041_3-6105569.html
James
"LaMont Davis" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
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>I'm sorry buddy :), but that "Apple Number#1 in customer support is false.
>Dell has had that distiction for 11 years running. JD Power and other industry
>metrics. Look it up.
>
>I'm a 20 year IT Dude, 10 with GM, and our standard desktop up until 1995
>was the Mac IIci(alltime favorite mac)!! the support Apple was spotty at
>best. But, when we went with DEll, we imediatly saw difference in support
>quality. And to this day, Dell's customer support is in a league of their
>own. Just like Lexus, Dell continues to set the benchmark in support.
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Well I'll just speak to what I know of Apple. I was a dealer at one time,
>>and their service was out standing. At the time they were number one the
>>the industry year after year.
>>
>>If you get a defective machine, you can retu
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| Re: OT; Who was the first president of th US? [message #69994 is a reply to message #69983] |
Thu, 06 July 2006 08:55 |
Deej [1]
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rn it with in 30 days. Their
>>is a standard one year warranty on hardware. They will replace any thing
>>that is defective free of charge in that year. if you get the extended
>warranty
>>they will replace any thing that is defective free of charge for three
years,
>>including shipping. You can add the extended warranty any time in the
first
>>year, and they have extended that to me and others I know past the first
>>year.
>>
>>I had a head crash on a lap top at the end of my warranty, I had my lap
>top
>>back in 48 hours with a new larger hard drive. Apple offered to back up
>>my old drive on my new drive even though my damaged hard drive was not
mechanically
>>working, it was just clicking and making a grinding noise.
>>
>>I had a doctor in rural AL. that had a problem with a Mac clone machine
>I
>>sold him. I couldn't find somebody to service that machine at his office.
>> I called Apple, they sent a guy out that fixed his clone machine with
in
>>two hours and charged less than the going rate.
>>
>>Those are just two of my experiences with Apple service. I think their
>pretty
>>good.
>>
>>I know that on other audio boards some people are still using the G4 FW800
>>machines. I'm not sure what was up with Rick's machine. Apple is known
>>for replacing the whole machine when a customer is really unhappy and there
>>has been a lot of repairs. However it sounds like Apple dropped the ball
>>on this one.
>>
>>I think a letter from an attorney would have gotten Ricks money back, time
>>is another story. There are Lemon laws that apply to computers also that
>>may still be exercisable.
>>
>>I'm sorry about what happened to Rick, it wasn't right.
>>
>>James
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>James, love ya man... but I have to take this one a little out of context
>>
>>>for humor's sake :)
>>>
>>>*Apple has vary quick turnaround.*
>>>
>>>Yup, they turned Rick around pretty quick and repeatedly as I remember..
>>
>>>poor uncle rick....
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:44d96ef8$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I do use both platforms.
>>>>
>>>> You can put a Pioneer DVD drive in your Mac and it will work. Do a
>>>> search,
>>>> the are some Sony 16x models that will also work. Apple doesn't make
>>the
>>>> system drives, so I don't see how you can blame the for that. You might
>>>> want to call WD, Seagate, or who ever made the drive.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't looked at the inside of a new Mac, but I would bet that there
>>
>>>> are
>>>> some Apple chips in there, I'm thinking a ROM chip.
>>>>
>>>> Text editor, please, there are plenty of them out there that work, some
>>
>>>> are
>>>> free some are not. What's wrong with text edit?
>>>>
>>>> Here are some sites:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/utilities_editors_macosx.htm l
>>>>
>>>> http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nisus.com/Express/
>>>>
>>>> http://macromates.com/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.tex-edit.com/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.jedit.org/
>>>>
>>>> http://smultron.sourceforge.net/
>>>>
>>>> Your right Apple MOBOs have always been expensive, they are like custom
>>
>>>> aircraft
>>>> parts, they just don't make enough of them to be cheap. You may be
able
>>>> to slap a PC MOBO in the new Mac Pro
>>>>
>>>> Your talking about a four or five year old machine as if it were a current
>>>> model. Which Dual do you have?
>>>>
>>>> I would bet that if you really looked you would find more Apple repair
>>
>>>
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| Re: OT; Who was the first president of th US? [message #69996 is a reply to message #69994] |
Thu, 06 July 2006 09:36 |
rick
Messages: 1976
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gt; .
>>>> . Digital Systems Inc.
>>>> . 319j Aspen Airport Business Ctr?Aspen, CO 81611
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> . Kolter.com LLC
>>>> . 305 W Colorado Ave?Trinidad, CO 81082
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> . Power Technology Solutions Grp Inc.
>>>> . 112 S 3rd Ave?Sterling, CO 80751
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> . Connecting Point
>>>> . 3223 E Pershing Blvd?Cheyenne, WY 82001
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> . Collins Consulting
>>>> . 630 Woofter Ave?Colby, KS 67701
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> . Connecting Point Durango
>>>> . 835 Main Avenue #215?Durango, CO 81301
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>James - Lamont pointed out the Nuendo on OSX is a Nuendo issue - it's
>>only
>>>>>relevant to Nuendo users considering a platform.
>>>>>
>>>>>As far as hardware? Macs are no longer different in the chipset
>>>>>department
>>>>>(cpu), unless they will still be relegated to motherboards with a locked
>>>>>bios chip (e.g. Mac/OSX specific). Therein would lie the same problem
>>we
>>>>>are facing now - to fix our lemon dual G4 would cost $700 for a new
>>>>>motherboard. If it were a PC I could replace it for less than $100.
>
>>>>>Also,
>>>>>replacing the bad "superdrive" (won't burn CDs anymore - just DVDs),
>is
>>>>>limited to spec'd drives (one I believe, not the 25 or so I have options
>>>> for
>>>>>on my PC). Anything else might not even work, according to Apple.
With
>>>> a
>>>>>PC, that would be a 5 minute, $79 fix. I've also replaced the system
>>
>>>>>drive
>>>>>twice on this Mac. I've had 5 PCs and never had to do any of the above.
>>>>>
>>>>>As far as software - sure if you need 3 operating systems, you can say
>>you
>>>>>can run more software - at least open it. However, I've always been
>able
>>>> to
>>>>>find whatever I needed for PC, but not so with our Macs - just last
night
>>>> I
>>>>>tried to find a simple text editor (other than OSX's), but couldn't
find
>>>> one
>>>>>that actually worked. I've run into more "problems" like this on our
>>OSX
>>>>>Mac than anywhere else, sad to say.
>>>>>
>>>>>In reality, Apple may seem to have narrowed the competitive gap between
>>>> Macs
>>>>>and PCs, but they have also further blurred the line that separates
them
>>>>>from a PC functionally and technically - it all could backfire once
users
>>>>>start to see them as even more interchangeable (e.g. price is always
>the
>>>>>first deciding factor for the majority of buyers in any market).
>>>>>
>>>>>In fact, unlocking OSX to run on any Intel platform could be either
the
>>>> best
>>>>>move they make, or the last. That's really all that's left to set Macs
>>>>>apart now... They don't win on repair costs, hardware costs, or
>>>>>widespread
>>>>>availability (one Apple service center in Co. Springs - tons of PC repair
>>>>>options, including Geek Squad for those so inclined... if you don't
do
>>
>>>>>your
>>>>>own). With a starting price of $2500 for a new Mac, they aren't exactly
>>>>>competing for a larger market share now - pretty much the same as every
>>>> new
>>>>>model before. As analysts have observed, Apple will have a hard time
>>>>>winning the corporate/server market, and that's where their prices put
>>
>>>>>them.
>>>>>
>>>>>So, why would I want to run Windows or Unix on more expensive, closed,
>>and
>>>>>costly to repair, and impossible to upgrade hardware platform? I don't.
>>>> It
>>>>>just doesn't make economic sense. Great marketing tactic for those
that
>>>>>haven't used both though.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>>On 8/8/06 4:07 PM, in article 44d90b0c$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
>>>>><excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know about Nuendo, I was under the impression that it ran
well
>>>> on
>>>>>> a Mac??? If it's a problem, I'm sure they will get it fixed in short
>>>> order.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as mac hardware goes, Mac is still a Mac, just different chips.
>>>>>> Software? Every Mac shipping will run more software than a PC, and
>they
>>>> ha
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| Re: OT; Who was the first president of th US? [message #69997 is a reply to message #69989] |
Thu, 06 July 2006 09:36 |
rick
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ve
>>>>>> for years. For some that will be worth the price of admission, for
>>
>>>>>> others
>>>>>> it's not important. Macs have been able to run Mac and Windows software
>>>>>> since the early 90s, and UNIX since 2001. You can run more software
>>
>>>>>> than
>>>>>> a PC, and all the Major operating systems on one box. It's just easier,
>>>>>> faster and less expensive now. That could only be good for a studio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure you can build a cheaper box, but it will be hard to compete
>>
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> what apple is offering today! The new Mac Pro is a cool, sleek, high
>>>> end
>>>>>> machine. Look at the comparative costs to the Dell in the WWDC video.
>>>> Sure
>>>>>> you can DIY, or roll your own, but it just won't be the same. You'll
>>>> save
>>>>>> money up front, but not in the long run when you have to spend hours
>>
>>>>>> tweaking,
>>>>>> and fussing just to get your generic machine to work right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once again for me it's ease of use, less headaches, and
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| Re: OT; Who was the first president of th US? [message #70003 is a reply to message #69983] |
Thu, 06 July 2006 13:35 |
TCB
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>>>>>>>>>>> Check out the stuff about expansion. It all looks interesting,
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>> of machine.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the link, check out the buy it now for configurations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/macpro/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=80651
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What about the Muslims already in Durango, what are you gonna do about
them?
>
Interesting that you should ask. there was recently a forum held at a local
church here. there were Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Muslims and American
Indians. Things were going nicely until a Jew asked the Muslims whether they
would renounce the use of non-retaliatory violence against those of other
religions. You could have heard a pin drop for about 10 seconds before the
Muslim gentleman started scooting around like a crawdad........and he never
gave a straight answer.
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:44e3f062@linux...
>
> Reality is measurable. The nature of reality is often debated. The
> challenge is to accept and respect each other while still allowing for
> disagreement.
>
> Can't let the other go without comment: The bloodletting on the nightly
> news is just a drop in the bucket, we don't see most of it.
>
> Were the Muslims in Saddam's Iraq just about to march over to Durango to
> convert your wife? Maybe with all of those WMD the inspectors concluded
> weren't there? Wouldn't work anyway, she'd sic your big dogs on 'em!
>
> What about the Muslims already in Durango, what are you gonna do about
them?
>
> Maybe the problem isn't Muslims. Maybe the problem is that people with
> little opportunity turn to fanatics for help and hope, and are used and
> manipulated in the process.
>
> I don't know why we turn to fanatics here. Fear?
>
> Muslims, the new, improved "commies." They're in your closet. They're
> after your wife. Vote for me and I'll $$olve the problem!
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> DJ wrote:
> >> between people who operate from very different assumptions about the
> >> nature of reality.
> >
> > I think reality is pretty cut and dried and is evidenced by the nightly
news
> > bloodletting. I think the differences are defined in terms of who is
> > justified in killing whom and for what reason. Thing is, I think I'd
rather
> > be dead than be forced to be a mulsim.......and I know my wife would
rather
> > die........and she's mean enough to take quite a few with her.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:44e3ae02@linux...
> >> One of the biggest challenges we face is how to have constructive
dialog
> >> between people who operate from very different assumptions about the
> >> nature of reality.
> >>
> >> Great post, Sarah.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> -Jamie
> >> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
> >>
> >>
> >> Sarah wrote:
> >>> (heavy sigh) I'm not sure why I'm continuing with this . . . I
learned
> >>> years ago you can't argue with a religious person. Yet I feel
compelled
> > to
> >>> make my views clear to you, since you are pretty much consistently
wrong
> > in
> >>> your assumptions about what I'm saying. I think you're still trying
to
> > view
> >>> me as a "type" rather than just as that unique thing I like to call
> > "me."
> >>> First of all, the term "blind faith" is pretty much redundant. Faith
is
> >>> essentially, by definition, blind. Faith is "belief that does not
rest
> > on
> >>> logical proof or material evidence." You can have your own definition
> > if
> >>> you need to, but that's from the dictionary, and makes sense to me.
If
> > you
> >>> have proof or evidence, it's not longer a belief, is it? I believe in
> >>> gravity, even though I can
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| Re: OT; Who was the first president of th US? [message #70017 is a reply to message #69993] |
Wed, 05 July 2006 17:18 |
uptown jimmy
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ared enough to send his son to die for us,
>>>>>> changes the whole world. Scary huh?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps the only thing "God" ever said to us was "Survive!" and then
>>> left
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> up to us to figure out that cooperation works better than
> competition.
>>>>>> If God is in quotes for you, then why would "god's" opinion
>>>>>> matter? Well it doesn't of course. Survive, don't survive, bake
>>>>>> cookies, bake Jews, who is to say no? Why should anyone care if
>>>>>> they do? All is permitted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is not God's plan for us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> "Golden Rule" is not simply a nice idea, it's a very practical and
>>>>>>> effective
>>>>>>> way to live peacefully with our fellow humans.
>>>>>> And the greedy dirtbag says "the one with the gold makes the
>>>>>> rules".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And you disapprove. With only "god" (otherwise known as Sarah's
>>>>>> opinion) to rebut him, why should he care?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As far as speculating on the afterlife, I just don't care. I'm fine
>>> with
>>>>>>> the mystery, in fact, I like a good mystery. Sure, it can be fun to
>>> say
>>>>>>> "what if this . . . " or "what if that . . . " but let's be honest
>>> here
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> none of us will know until the time comes, and maybe not even then.
>>> And
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> sorry, but "because the bible tells me so" doesn't work for me.
> It's
>>> just
>>>>>>> stuff that was written by the brighter members of some fairly
> backward
>>>>>>> human
>>>>>>> societies thousands of years ago who may or may not have been
> inspired
>>> by
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> supreme being.
>>>>>> And you cannot see that this is merely your view, not fact.
>>>>>> It is an assertion that there are no miracles, that God does not
>>>>>> care if we have a we to know Him or not, that things proceeded in
>>>>>> the past as they do today, and Jesus' death and resurrection are
>>>>>> human myths created, as all "god talk" is, by humans to comfort
>>>>>> themselves...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You may not be an atheist, but you accept *all* of their basic
>>>>>> assumptions about existence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meanwhile, back to the original topic: picture 100,000 dead Iraqis
>>>>>>> (conservative estimate). Picture them all together in a pile. What
>>> do
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> think . . . would it fill a football stadium, like a big bowl of
> brown
>>>>>>> rice?
>>>>>>> I don't know, but now tell me how many of those were terrorists?
> 100?
>>>>>> 500?
>>>>>>> 1000? It doesn't matter does it? Not to those who were innocent
> and
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> families.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now picture 2500 dead American soldiers and the 62,000 wounded or
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