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| Re: A new Trident 80B console for $2,500.00!!! [message #59633 is a reply to message #59632] |
Fri, 28 October 2005 07:03   |
benjamin
Messages: 9
Registered: October 2005
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stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in version 2,
> =
>>=3D
>> >when=3D20
>> > mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and right and =
>>=3D
>> >muting all=3D20
>> > other tracks. Then you can import them into the project again on =
>>their
>> =3D
>> >old=3D20
>> > places and give them new names.
>> >
>> > Erling
>> >
>> >
>> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding =3D
>> >news:439000f1$1@linux...
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > > Thanks for your replies.
>> > > What I have managed is to have the same start and end for both =
>>audio
>> =3D
>> >files
>> > > just by cutting at cursor pointy on both tracks.
>> > > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of themhas different cut =
>>points
>> =3D
>> >and=3D20
>> > > joint
>> > > points , does this matter?
>> > > If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not actually =
>>stereo
>> =3D
>> >but
>> > > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different =
>>parts
>> =3D
>> >on=3D20
>> > > each
>> > > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on time.
>> > > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the stereo =
>>perspective
>> =3D
>> >of=3D20
>> > > them
>> > > pl;aying hard left and hard right.
>> > > Have you tried T-racks compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!
>> > > Amazing stereo result with complete mono compatibility , not like
> =
>>=3D
>> >waves=3D20
>> > > imager
>> > > at all...
>> > > Cheers,
>> > > DImitrios
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Ennio" <ennio@galicorp.net> wrote:
>> > >>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides of the stereo file =
>>must
>> =3D
>> >be
>> > > at
>> > >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down you =
>>can =3D
>> >go on
>> > > the
>> > >>zoom tool)
>> > >>
>> > >>"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =
>>news:
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| Re: A new Trident 80B console for $2,500.00!!! [message #59644 is a reply to message #59633] |
Fri, 28 October 2005 11:22 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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ust
>> =3D3D
>> >be
>> > > at
>> > >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down =
you =3D
>>can =3D3D
>> >go on
>> > > the
>> > >>zoom tool)
>> > >>
>> > >>"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =3D
>>news:438f4d36@linux...
>> > >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no =
=3D
>>different
>> =3D3D
>> >holes
>> > >>in
>> > >>> any of the stereo objects?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Erling
>> > >>>
>> > >>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding=3D3D20
>> > >>> news:438f3760$1@linux...
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Hi,
>> > >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I try =
to =3D
>>put a
>> =3D3D
>> >
>> > >>> > stereo
>> > >>> > native
>> > >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix when I try to =
save I
>=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >always
>> > > get
>> > >>> > assertion
>> > >>> > failed and cannot save either on same name or other...
>> > >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as I did =
=3D
>>before
>> =3D3D
>> >but
>> > >>don't
>> > >>> > know why Paris doesn't let to...
>> > >>> > Regards,
>> > >>> > Dimitrios
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >=3D3D20
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>> ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
=3D3D
>> >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
>> ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>> ></HEAD>
>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rendering is your =
answer. Don't
>=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >render tracks=3D3D20
>> >with plugins. In stereo the right side </FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT =3D
>>face=3D3D3DArial =3D3D
>> >size=3D3D3D2>have any=3D3D20
>> >effect. Double check to see that their timing is correct =3D3D
>> >too.</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Some people have =
problems with
=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >that.</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
>> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px;
=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> > <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D3D
>> >href=3D3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20
>> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20
>> > =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=
ere
>> =3D3D
>> >you have=3D3D20
>> > the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look after that =
=3D
>><BR>each
>> =3D3D
>> >
>> > stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will do =
the =3D
>>job =3D3D
>> ><BR>when=3D3D20
>> > saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if =
something =3D
>>are =3D3D
>> ><BR>going=3D3D20
>> > wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of =
=3D
>>the=3D3D20
>> > <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in =
version
>=3D
>>2,
>> =3D3D
>> >when=3D3D20
>> > <BR>mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and =
right =3D
>>and =3D3D
>> >muting=3D3D20
>> > all <BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the project =
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| Re: A new Trident 80B console for $2,500.00!!! [message #59647 is a reply to message #59646] |
Fri, 28 October 2005 11:38 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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net" target="_blank">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>Rendering is your=3D20
>> answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In=3D20
>> stereo<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the right side=3D3D20<BR>>won't have any =3D
>>effect. =3D20
>> Double check to see that their timing is =3D
>>correct<BR>=3D3D<BR>>too.<BR>>Some=3D20
>> people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>> "erlilo" =3D
>><<A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
=3D
>>message <A=3D20
>> =3D
>>href=3D3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=3D
>> There=3D20
>> you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>after=3D20
>> that=3D3D20<BR>> each stereopair is starting and ending at the =3D
>>same=3D20
>> places will do the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>job=3D3D20<BR>> when saving =3D
>>under a new=3D20
>> name, just to be sure to go back if =3D
>>something<BR>=3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some =
of=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D20<BR>> stereofiles, you can rendering the =3D
>>old, hard=3D20
>> way, as in version 2, =3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D20<BR>> mixing down =3D
>>each=3D20
>> stereopair with panning hard left and right and =
=3D3D<BR>>muting=3D20
>> all=3D3D20<BR>> other tracks. Then you can import them into the =
=3D
>>project=3D20
>> again on their<BR>=3D3D<BR>>old=3D3D20<BR>> places and give =3D
>>them new=3D20
>> names.<BR>><BR>> Erling<BR>><BR>><BR>> =3D
>>"Dimitrios"=3D20
>> <<A href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
=3D
>>skrev i=3D20
>> melding =3D3D<BR>>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>> =3D
>>><BR>> =3D20
>> > Hi,<BR>> > Thanks for your replies.<BR>> =3D
>>> What I=3D20
>> have managed is to have the same start and end for both=3D20
>> audio<BR>=3D3D<BR>>files<BR>> > just by cutting at cursor =3D
>>pointy on=3D20
>> both tracks.<BR>> > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of =3D
>>themhas=3D20
>> different cut points<BR>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
>>joint<BR>> =3D20
>> > points , does this matter?<BR>> > If you ask me why =3D
>>it is=3D20
>> because these tracks are not actually =3D
>>stereo<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but<BR>> =3D20
>> > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove =
different=3D20
>> parts<BR>=3D3D<BR>>on=3D3D20<BR>> > each<BR>> > =3D
>>of the=3D20
>> "stereo" tracks to make them on time.<BR>> > I want a =3D
>>stereo=3D20
>> effect because I wanna expand the stereo=3D20
>> perspective<BR>=3D3D<BR>>of=3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
>>them<BR>> >=3D20
>> pl;aying hard left and hard right.<BR>> > Have you tried =3D
>>T-racks=3D20
>> compressor's stereo widening knob ?? !!<BR>> > Amazing =3D
>>stereo=3D20
>> result with complete mono compatibility , not like=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>waves=3D3D20<BR>> > imager<BR>> > at=3D20
>> all...<BR>> > Cheers,<BR>> > =3D
>>DImitrios<BR>> =3D20
>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > "Ennio" <<A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D20
>> wrote:<BR>> >>The in-points (and out-points) on both =3D
>>sides of=3D20
>> the stereo file must<BR>=3D3D<BR>>be<BR>> > =3D
>>at<BR>> =3D20
>> >>the identical spot - down to the sample (the furthest down you =
=3D
>>can=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>go on<BR>> > the<BR>> >>zoom=3D20
>> tool)<BR>> >><BR>> >>"erlilo" <<A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
=3D
>>message <A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=3D20
>> >>> Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no=3D20
>> different<BR>=3D3D<BR>>holes<BR>> >>in<BR>> =3D20
>> >>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>> =3D20
>> >>><BR>> >>> Erling<BR>> =3D20
>> >>><BR>> >>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev =
i=3D20
>> melding=3D3D20<BR>> >>> <A=3D20
>> =3D
>>href=3D3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=3D
>>=3D20
>> >>> ><BR>> >>> > Hi,<BR>> =3D20
>> >>> > I have almost finished my project mixing and when I =3D
>>try to=3D20
>> put a<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> >>> > =3D
>>stereo<BR>> =3D20
>> >>> > native<BR>> >>> > effect on any =3D
>>audio=3D20
>> track on any submix when I try to save I =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>always<BR>> >=3D20
>> get<BR>> >>> > assertion<BR>> =3D
>>>>> >=3D20
>> failed and cannot save either on same name or other...<BR>> =3D20
>> >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as =3D
>>I did=3D20
>> before<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but<BR>> >>don't<BR>> =3D
>>>>>=3D20
>> > know why Paris doesn't let to...<BR>> >>> >=3D20
>> Regards,<BR>> >>> > Dimitrios<BR>> =3D20
>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> =3D
>>>><BR>> =3D20
>> >><BR>> =3D
>>>=3D3D20<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=3D20
>> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
>> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
>> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
>>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
>> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
>> =3D
>>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
>>D><BR>><BODY=3D20
>> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
>> =3D
>>size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=3D
>>ONT=3D20
>> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rendering is your answer. Don't =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>render=3D20
>> tracks=3D3D20<BR>>with plugins. In stereo the right side=3D20
>> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
>> size=3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>have=3D20
>> any=3D3D20<BR>>effect. Double check to see that their timing is =
=3D
>>correct=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
>> size=3D3D3D2>Some people have problems with=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>that.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
>> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
>> =3D
>>size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR >=3D
>>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D20
>> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
=3D
>>#000000 2px=3D20
>> solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"erlilo" =3D
>><<A=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20'>mailto=
:erlil=3D
>>o@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>> =3D20
>> wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Ther=
e'>n=3D
>>ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=3D
>>ere</A><BR>=3D3D<BR>>you=3D20
>> have=3D3D20<BR>> the problem. I think rendering the tracks and =3D
>>look after=3D20
>> that <BR>each<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> stereopair is =3D
>>starting and=3D20
>> ending at the same places will do the job=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>><BR>when=3D3D20<BR>> saving under a new name, =3D
>>just to be=3D20
>> sure to go back if something are =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>><BR>going=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some =
of=3D20
>> the=3D3D20<BR>> <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the =3D
>>old, hard=3D20
>> way, as in version 2,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>when=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>><BR>mixing down=3D20
>> each stereopair with panning hard left and right and=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>muting=3D3D20<BR>> all <BR>other tracks. Then =3D
>>you can=3D20
>> import them into the project again<BR>=3D3D<BR>>on =3D
>>their=3D3D20<BR>> old=3D20
>> <BR>places and give them new=3D20
>> =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>=3D
>>"Dimitrios"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> <<A href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
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>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musu=
rgio=3D
>>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>skrev i=3D3D20<BR>> melding <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>>
>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
=3D
>>g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=3D
>>><BR>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> Hi,<BR>> Thanks for your replies.<BR>> What I have =3D
>>managed=3D20
>> is to =3D3D<BR>>have=3D3D20<BR>> the same start and end for =3D
>>both audio=3D20
>> files<BR>> just by cutting at =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>cursor=3D3D20<BR>> pointy=3D20
>> on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the stereo tracks each of=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>themhas=3D3D20<BR>> different cut points and =3D
>><BR>>=3D20
>> joint<BR>> points , does this=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>>matter?<BR>>=3D20
>> If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>actually=3D3D20<BR>> stereo but<BR>> two =3D
>>takes of=3D20
>> acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D3D<BR>>tomove=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>>different=3D20
>> parts on <BR>> each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>make them=3D3D20<BR>> on time.<BR>> I want =3D
>>a stereo=3D20
>> effect because I wanna expand the =3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>>perspective=3D20
>> of <BR>> them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and=3D20
>> hard=3D3D20<BR>> right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks =3D
>>compressor's=3D20
>> stereo widening =3D3D<BR>>knob ??=3D3D20<BR>> !!<BR>> =3D
>>Amazing=3D20
>> stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =
=3D3D<BR>>not=3D20
>> like=3D3D20<BR>> waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at=3D20
>> all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio"=3D20
>> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
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>>href=3D3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20'>ma=
ilto:e=3D
>>nnio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>>&n=3D
>>bsp;=3D20
>> wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides =3D
>>of the=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>> file must be<BR>>=3D20
>> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>sample=3D3D20<BR>> (the furthest down you can go=3D20
>> on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" =3D
>><<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@o=
nlin=3D
>>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=3D20
>> wrote in =3D3D<BR>>message <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f=
4d36=3D
>>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>Is it=3D3D20<BR>> exactly the same length on each =3D
>>stereo files=3D20
>> or no different=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the=3D20
>> stereo=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> =3D
>>objects?<BR>>>><BR>>>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> Erling<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Dimitrios"=3D20
>> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
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>>href=3D3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musu=
rgio=3D
>>@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=3D20
>> skrev i =3D3D<BR>>melding=3D3D20<BR>> <BR>>>>=3D20
>> <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
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>>href=3D3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g'>=
=3D
>>news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=3D
>>;>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> ><BR>>>> > Hi,<BR>>>> > I have =3D
>>almost=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>finished my=3D3D20<BR>> project mixing and when I =3D
>>try to put a=3D20
>> <BR>>>> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>>stereo<BR>>>> >=3D20
>> native<BR>>>> > effect on any=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>audio=3D3D20<BR>> track on any submix when I try to =3D
>>save I=3D20
>> always<BR>> =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>get<BR>>>>=3D3D20<BR>> >=3D20
>> assertion<BR>>>> > failed and cannot save either on=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>same name=3D3D20<BR>> or =3D
>>other...<BR>>>> > The=3D20
>> problem is that I want to use =3D3D<BR>>stereo=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>>effects as I=3D20
>> did before but<BR>>>don't<BR>>>> > know=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>why=3D3D20<BR>> Paris doesn't let =3D
>>to...<BR>>>>=3D20
>> > Regards,<BR>>>
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| Re: A new Trident 80B console for $2,500.00!!! [message #59648 is a reply to message #59647] |
Fri, 28 October 2005 11:55 |
Tony Benson
Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with Erlilo. Try =
different channels=20
or a different</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>submix if you can. Otherwise =
rebuilding the=20
mix from</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scratch in a new project is the next =
best=20
bet. Copy all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mixer settings and presets of effects =
to make it=20
easier.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43908331$1@linux">news:43908331$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Dimi=
trios,=20
You probably know this, but just to make sure...<BR>If you want to use =
stereo=20
native plugins, you can NOT have any mono plugins<BR>on those tracks. =
That=20
goes for native and EDS.<BR>Do you have any mono eds or native plugs =
also on=20
the stereo pair?<BR>Rod<BR>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>Dear Tom,<BR>>It is not the plugin under =
other song I=20
can open a stereo native effect.<BR>>In my project I cannot open =
ANY stereo=20
effect.<BR>>Even chainer only...<BR>>I can save my project no =
problem if=20
I don't use a stereo native effect.<BR>>ALSO on submix 3 I managed =
toopen a=20
stereo native effect but not on submix<BR>>1 or 4 , any suggestion=20
?<BR>>Regards,<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>> <BR>>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Dimitrios, <BR>>>Are =
you saying=20
you can save before this stereo plugin<BR>>>is inserted? =
I'd say=20
you may have a rouge plugin that<BR>>>your wrapper or Paris just =
doesn't=20
like. Try the same thing<BR>>>in a different =
project. ie:=20
Same stereo plugin inserted<BR>>>on another stereo pair of =
tracks. =20
Now can you save?<BR>>>If so it may be your project. If =
not it's=20
probably your plugin.<BR>>><BR>>>Good=20
luck,<BR>>>Tom<BR>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
message=20
=3D<BR>>>news:43906b78$1@linux...<BR>>><BR>>> =
Thanks for=20
your suggestions.<BR>>> I have rendered using the hardware =
method=20
via adat and achieved one =3D<BR>>>nice<BR>>> =
compact stereo=20
track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved all=20
audio<BR>>=3D<BR>>>files<BR>>> on new folder and =
saved=20
under new name I used the clear missing =20
files<BR>>=3D<BR>>>just<BR>>> before that but =
again no luck=20
when I put a stereo native effect on =3D<BR>>>this=20
stereotrack<BR>>> even without hitting play when I =
try to=20
save assertion fails and =3D<BR>>>doesn't<BR>>> =
allow of any=20
save !<BR>>> Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when =
I hit=20
SAve ...<BR>>> rEGARDS,<BR>>> =20
dIMITRIOS<BR>>><BR>>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> =
>Dimitrios,<BR>>> >Rendering is your answer. =
Don't=20
render tracks with plugins. In =
=3D<BR>>>stereo<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>> >the right side=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>won't have=20
any effect. Double check to see that their timing is=20
=3D<BR>>>correct<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>too.<BR>>> >Some people have problems with=20
that.<BR>>> >Tom<BR>>> > "erlilo" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
message=20
=3D<BR>>>news:43900b57$1@linux...<BR>>> > =
There you=20
have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and=20
look<BR&
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| Re: A new Trident 80B console for $2,500.00!!! [message #59651 is a reply to message #59647] |
Fri, 28 October 2005 13:08 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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nbsp; >=20
Cheers,<BR>>> > > DImitrios<BR>>> =20
> ><BR>>> > ><BR>>> =
> =20
> "Ennio" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>> > >>The in-points (and =
out-points) on=20
both sides of the stereo file<BR>=3D<BR>>>must<BR>>> =
=3D3D<BR>>> >be<BR>>> > >=20
at<BR>>> > >>the identical spot - down to =
the=20
sample (the furthest down you =3D<BR>>>can =
=3D3D<BR>>> >go=20
on<BR>>> > > the<BR>>> > =20
>>zoom tool)<BR>>> > =
>><BR>>> =20
> >>"erlilo" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
message=20
=3D<BR>>>news:438f4d36@linux...<BR>>> > =
>>>=20
Is it exactly the same length on each stereo files or no=20
=3D<BR>>>different<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>holes<BR>>> > >>in<BR>>> =
> =20
>>> any of the stereo objects?<BR>>> > =20
>>><BR>>> > >>>=20
Erling<BR>>> > >>><BR>>> =
> =20
>>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> skrev i=20
melding=3D3D20<BR>>> > >>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&n=
bsp;=20
> >>> ><BR>>> > >>> =
>=20
Hi,<BR>>> > >>> > I have almost =
finished my=20
project mixing and when I try to =3D<BR>>>put =
a<BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>> ><BR>>> > >>> =
>=20
stereo<BR>>> > >>> > =
native<BR>>> =20
> >>> > effect on any audio track on any submix =
when I=20
try to save I<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>always<BR>>> > > get<BR>>> =
> =20
>>> > assertion<BR>>> > >>> =
>=20
failed and cannot save either on same name or =
other...<BR>>> =20
> >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo =
effects=20
as I did =3D<BR>>>before<BR>>> =
=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>but<BR>>> > >>don't<BR>>> =20
> >>> > know why Paris doesn't let=20
to...<BR>>> > >>> >=20
Regards,<BR>>> > >>> >=20
Dimitrios<BR>>> > >>><BR>>> =20
> >>><BR>>> > =20
>><BR>>> > >><BR>>> =
> =20
>=3D3D20<BR>>> ><BR>>> =
><BR>>> =20
><BR>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
4.0=20
Transitional//EN"><BR>>> =20
><HTML><HEAD><BR>>> ><META=20
http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>>> ><META=20
content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>>> =20
><STYLE></STYLE><BR>>> =20
></HEAD><BR>>> ><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></ DIV> <BR>>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rendering is =
your answer.=20
Don't<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >render=20
tracks=3D3D20<BR>>> >with plugins. In stereo the right =
side=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>>face=3D3D3DArial =3D3D<BR>>> =
>size=3D3D3D2>have=20
any=3D3D20<BR>>> >effect. Double check to see that =
their timing=20
is correct =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Some people have problems=20
with<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>that.</FONT></DIV><BR>>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV& ;gt; <BR>>> =20
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>> =
>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=20
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px;<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px"><BR>>> =20
> <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20'>mailto:erl=
ilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>>>&n=
bsp;=20
> wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>There'>n=
ews:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Th=
ere</A><BR>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>> >you have=3D3D20<BR>>> =
> the=20
problem. I think rendering the tracks and look after that=20
=3D<BR>>><BR>each<BR>>> =
=3D3D<BR>>> =20
><BR>>> > stereopair is starting and ending at =
the=20
same places will do the =3D<BR>>>job =3D3D<BR>>> =20
><BR>when=3D3D20<BR>>> > saving under a =
new name,=20
just to be sure to go back if something =3D<BR>>>are =
=3D3D<BR>>> =20
><BR>going=3D3D20<BR>>> > wrong again. =
If the time=20
alignments are going wrong in some of =
=3D<BR>>>the=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, =
as in=20
version<BR>>=3D<BR>>>2,<BR>>> =
=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>when=3D3D20<BR>>> > <BR>mixing down =
each=20
stereopair with panning hard left and right =3D<BR>>>and=20
=3D3D<BR>>> >muting=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
all=20
<BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the project=20
=3D<BR>>>again<BR>>> =3D3D<BR>>> >on=20
their=3D3D20<BR>>> > old <BR>places and =
give them new=20
=3D3D<BR>>> =20
=
>names.<BR><BR>Erling& ;lt;BR><BR><BR> "Dimitr=
ios"=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> <<A href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >skrev =
i=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> melding <A=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>> =3D<BR>>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
g'>news:439000f1$1@linux">news:439000f1$1@linux</A>...<BR>=
><BR>&g</A>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D <BR>>> =20
>t;=3D3D20<BR>>> > Hi,<BR>> Thanks =
for your=20
replies.<BR>> What I have managed is to=20
=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>have=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
the same start and end for both audio files<BR>> just by =
cutting=20
at<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =
>cursor=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> pointy on both tracks.<BR>> Buit insight the =
stereo tracks=20
each of<BR>>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>themhas=3D3D20<BR>>> > different cut points =
and=20
<BR>> joint<BR>> points , does =
this=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> matter?<BR>> If you ask me why it is because these =
tracks=20
are not<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> =20
>actually=3D3D20<BR>>> > stereo =
but<BR>> two=20
takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>tomove=3D3D20<BR>>> > different parts on =
<BR>>=20
each<BR>> of the "stereo" tracks to =3D3D<BR>>> =
>make=20
them=3D3D20<BR>>> > on time.<BR>> I want =
a stereo=20
effect because I wanna expand the =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>stereo=3D3D20<BR>>> > perspective of =
<BR>>=20
them<BR>> pl;aying hard left and =
hard=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> right.<BR>> Have you tried T-racks compressor's =
stereo=20
widening =3D3D<BR>>> >knob ??=3D3D20<BR>>> =
> =20
!!<BR>> Amazing stereo result with complete mono =
compatibility ,=20
=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >not =
like=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at =
all...<BR>>=20
Cheers,<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
DImitrios<BR>><BR>> ;<BR>> "Ennio"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20'>mailto=
:ennio@galicorp.net">ennio@galicorp.net</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>&g=
t;> =20
> wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on =
both=20
sides of the =3D3D<BR>>> =
>stereo=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> file must be<BR>> at<BR>>>the =
identical spot -=20
down to the =3D3D<BR>>> =
>sample=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
(the furthest down you can go on<BR>>=20
the<BR>>>zoom=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
tool)<BR>>><BR>&am p;gt;> "erlilo"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=20
wrote in<BR>=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>> >message=20
<A=3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D<BR>>> =
>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f4d36=
@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=20
=3D3D<BR>>> >Is it=3D3D20<BR>>> > =
exactly the=20
same length on each stereo files or no =
different=3D3D20<BR>>> =20
> holes<BR>>>in<BR>& amp;gt;>> any of the=20
stereo=3D3D20<BR>>> > =20
=
objects?<BR>>>><BR >>>>=3D3D20 <BR>>>&n=
bsp;=20
> Erling<BR>>>><BR&a mp;gt;>>> =
"Dimitrios"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A'>mailto:musurgio=
@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>>=20
skrev<BR>>=3D<BR>>>i =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>melding=3D3D20<BR>>> > <BR>>>> =
<A=3D3D20<BR>>> > =3D3D<BR>>> =20
=3D<BR>>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=3D=
3D'>news:438f3760$1@linux">news:438f3760$1@linux</A>...<BR>=
;>>&g=3D3D</A>=3D<BR>>> <BR>>> =20
>t;=3D3D20<BR>>> > ><BR>>>> =
>=20
Hi,<BR>>>> > I have almost =3D3D<BR>>> =20
>finished my=3D3D20<BR>>> > project mixing and =
when I=20
try to put a <BR>
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