se who know: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>1)Is anyone else taking this approach? >>>>>>>>>>>2)What approaches are you guys taking with your hybrid setups? >>>>>>>>>>>3)What is the meaning of existence? (You can skip this one if >>>> >>>>you >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>want.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>As always, thanks for the help! >>>>>>>>>>>Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>Jon >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>In that case, go the adat I/O route... works really good! :-) David. LaMont wrote: > I'm not going to use 96k recording.. :) No, I'm a 24 bit/44.1k guy. I'm not > sold on the 96k sound. > > EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote: > >>Here is a wrinkle to this equation.. you said you want to stream 96 >>channels from the DM2K... ok, no problem. The limitation is that you >>would be able to do this at 96K only with the MADI cards. The >>standard 96K MY cards are 8 chanels only... this gives you 48 channels >>of I/O at 96K fully loaded with AES cards. If you want all 96 >>channels of I/O you are stuck at 48KHz using adat/TDIF/AES cards. >> >>Just another $.02 on the pile :-) >> >>David. >> >>LaMont wrote: >> >>I know what you mean... I am tracking at 24/44 in Nuendo and it sounds really good. Did a piano thing the other day using the Focusrite 428 on a pair of C460's and a U47FET underneath. Noise floor is so low, I can hear the felt dampers going in and out of the strings!! :-) Scary actually... I know I don't need any more resolution than that! David. LaMont wrote: > I'm not going to use 96k recording.. :) No, I'm a 24 bit/44.1k guy. I'm not > sold on the 96k sound. > > EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote: > >>Here is a wrinkle to this equation.. you said you want to stream 96 >>channels from the DM2K... ok, no problem. The limitation is that you >>would be able to do this at 96K only with the MADI cards. The >>standard 96K MY cards are 8 chanels only... this gives you 48 channels >>of I/O at 96K fully loaded with AES cards. If you want all 96 >>channels of I/O you are stuck at 48KHz using adat/TDIF/AES cards. >> >>Just another $.02 on the pile :-) >> >>David. >> >>LaMont wrote: >> >> >>>Well, the RME-Madi card(s) price don't look too bad for the 64 channels > > per > >>>card. I want to be able to stream 96 channel from the yamaha DM-2000.. > > So,the > >>>Optical way would cost, 4- 9652(s) is almost the same. $2400(9652) vs > > $2600.00(Madi) > >>>EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>The MADI cards will set you back almost as much as the desk itself! We > > >>>>went the optical route here... WAY cheaper. >>>> >>>>David. >>>> >>>>LaMont wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>You're right $$$ Cha-ching!!! :) But, Digi is giving new customers at >>> >>>least >>> >>> >>>>>$3,500.00 in software plugins. Maybe more, but I do knwo that it's at >>> >>>least >>> >>> >>>>>$3500.00 >>>>> >>>>>I dont think you need 96 I/o channels, but hey !! you never know :) >>>>>PTHD-3(Axcel) had all the processing power one needs to replace 4 UAD1 >>> >>>cards. >>> >>> >>>>>Being that you can run the uad plugs on the HD cards, or run Fx expansion >>>>>vst/Rtas converter app.. >>>>> >>>>>I just got a great quote from sweetwater for PTHD2-Axcel) with Contol24 >>> >>>mix >>> >>> >>>>>controller, Apogee AD/DA16x..Slew of Plugin (free) from Digi..20K..( > > Not > >>>>>including the Mac.) You don't need a G5 to run PT-HD/TDM.. You can, but >>> >>>not >>> >>> >>>>>a necessity. I have access to a Dual 877 G4 or I might buld a nice PC >>> >>>to >>> >>> >>>>>run it on. For those how have not seen PT-HD?LE run on a PC, they are >>> >>>in >>> >>> >>>>>for a real shock. The speed difference is Amazing!!! >>>>> >>>>>I've been weighing the Yammy 02r96/DM-2000,Nuendo,RME MADI(2) scenario..the >>>>>first coming to 9k for the 02Rm, 18k for the DM2000..Decisions.. :) > > >>>>>??????? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>.........errr..........that should have been 96 digital I/O. guess I >>>>>>wouldn't be needing that though with the PT rig, would I? Also, I'm > > going > >>>>>to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>need all new software so throw that into the equation for another $5k >>> >>>at >>> >>> >>>>>>least for good TDM plugins. >>>>>> >>>>>>(sigh) >>>>>> >>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message >>>>>>news:43ddb571@linux... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>So what would PT system with 32 A/D and D/A converters, 96 I/O and > > the > >>>>>>>processing power of 4 x UAD-1 cards cost? I'm thinking around $30k. > > Now > >>>>>>add >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>a G5 to that.. Now add a control surface. $40k to achieve what I've >>>>>> >>>>>>already >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>got here? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Now lersee, I might be able to get 7k out of my current hybrid rig > > if > >>>>>I >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>was >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>lucky, soooo............that leaves me a little short. Yeah, It would >>>>> >>>>>be >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>nice, but it's not realistic. PT HD is still wayyyyy overpriced.....at >>>>>> >>>>>>least >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>for me. If I was in a situation where it would bring enough business >>> >>>for >>> >>> >>>>>>it >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>to pay for itself, then maybe I could see it. Right now, I'm the >>>>>> >>>>>>alternative >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>to Pro Tools in this town. That is starting to bring me business actually. >>>>>>>People are curious about this crazy engineer with the Rube Goldberg >>>>>> >>>>>>machine. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>;o) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:43ddadca$1@linux... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>LOL!! >>>>>>>>I know that most of us thru out the years have beeen cold on PT, but >>>>> >>>>>I >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>have >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>admit, that DAW( PT-HD) is one nice sounding, smooth running, cryptic >>>>>>> >>>>>>>editing-but >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>fast once you know it. It's I/O patchbay routing is on another level. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>That's >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>all i can say. They sound is as good withthe Digi converters, but, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>inserting >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>a Lucid gen 96 or 192, tightens the sound up.. Using Apogees Rosettas >>>>>> >>>>>>and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>or the AD/DA16x, really make you think your back in PAris Land.. Due >>>>> >>>>>to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Apogees ability to run inthe read, with it's on-board soft-limit.. > > AND, > >>>>>>if >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>you runn HD on a PC, beter for you becuase you can run a whole lot > > of > >>>>>>Rtas >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>plugins.. But, if you only have a old G4, so-what, you're still gonna >>>>>> >>>>>>get >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>taht stated track/DSP count...very smothly indeed.. No more bashing >>>>> >>>>>Digi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>for me.. I've seen the light.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>LaMont >>>>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Not nearly complicated enough ;o) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Seriously, I have thought about it.....a lot. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Deej >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message >>>>>> >>>>>>news:43dd826c
t;>>>>>>>a comfortable cuemix. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>I have a number of tracking templates set up in Paris and Cubase >>>>> >>>>>SX >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>utilize my RME Multiface converters with any of the three Paris >>>>>>> >>>>>>>submixes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>via >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>lightpipe. Since two om my MECS have an A8iT and A8oT and the third >>>>>>> >>>>>>>one >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>only >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>has ADAT, if I need 16 x I/O on either of the two MECS that have >>>>>> >>>>>>only >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>x >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Paris I/O module on them during a tracking session, I can open > > up > >>>>>>the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Cubase-to-Paris tracking template on both machines nd then just >>>>>> >>>>>>patch >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>in >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>my >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>preamps to the Multiface I/O and it's routed digitally to the >>>>>>> >>>>>>>respective >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>channels of the Paris mixer. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Once project is tracked, basic editing done using the Paris editor. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Audio tracks are then rendered as contiguous 24 bit.paf (Paris > > Audio > >>>>>>>>>Files) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>with starting points at 00:00:00. to a folder in the Paris song >>>>>>> >>>>>>>project >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>file. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Batch converion of the the rendered .paf's to .wavs is done in >>>>>> >>>>>>Wavelab >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>via >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>LAN to DAW running Wavelab and Cubase SX and the converted .wav >>>>>> >>>>>>files >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>are >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>saved to a Cubase SX song project. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>The .wavs are imported into a Cubase SX project template for the >>>>>> >>>>>>song >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>which >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>has a routing matrix bussing certain tracks to certain busses and >>>>>> >>>>>>then >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>bussing the tracks back to Paris for summing as follows: >>>>>>>>>>>(NOTE: the use of the word MEC /IF2 below refers to various Paris >>>>>> >>>>>>I/O >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>interfaces which correlate to 16 track submixes. The system here >>>>> >>>>>has >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>3 x >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>16 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>track submix units comprising a total of 48 tracks with a total >>>>> >>>>>of >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>72 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>digital I/O and 32 analog I/O for various routing configurations) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Paris MEC 1 mixer channels are set to receive lightpipe from Cubase >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Sx >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>DAW >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>using ADAT channels 1-14 bussed from RME 9652 #1 ADAT I/O 1 & > > 2 > >>>>>>>assigned >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>to >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Cubase SX audio channels 1-16 and Cubase SX audio channels 1-14 >>>>> >>>>>each >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>assigned to channels 1-14 outputs. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Cubase SX channels 1-14 (the drums) are duplicated and the >>>>>> >>>>>>duplicated >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>drum >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>submix is panned to taste, EQ'ed, individual tracks are processed >>>>>> >>>>>>and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>(usually) bussed to a UAD-1 Fairchild or other UAD compressor then >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>returned >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>to Paris submix 1 through the Cubase SX drum submix group- (stereo >>>>>>> >>>>>>>audio >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>channel 15 which is using RME ADAT I/O 15 & 16) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>The original mono drum tracks are also fed to insert FX (UAD-1 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>compressors, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>EQ's, etc) and bussed via lightpipe to Paris channels 1 through >>>>> >>>>>14 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>in >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>submix >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>#1 where the panning of the drum tracks in the SX drum submix is >>>>>>> >>>>>>>mirrored >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>in >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Paris. FX such as Paris EQ/ insert DSP and outboard reverbs >>>>>> >>>>>>(digital >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>only) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>and Paris aux FX are then applied to the individual drum tracks. >>>>>> >>>>>>Any >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>outboard processing to the individual drum tracks is being done >>>>>>> >>>>>>>through >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>RME multiface I/O to retain phase coherence and care must be taken >>>>>> >>>>>>at >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>this >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>point when processing in Paris to use only digital FX externally >>>>> >>>>>(1 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>x >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>sample >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>latency with digital I/O loop in Paris) and care must also be taken >>>>>>> >>>>>>>with >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>lookahead when using the Paris onboard DSP compressors to avoid >>>>>> >>>>>>phase >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>issues >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>(flamming). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>It is possible to achieve a monster drum sound by using both Paris >>>>>> >>>>>>and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Cubase SX when processing parallel drum submixes sample accurately >>>>>> >>>>>>on >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>both >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>platforms. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Paris MEC 2 mixer channels are bussed from RME 9652 #1 ADAT I/O >>>>> >>>>>#3 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>RME >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>2 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>ADAT #1 I/O assigned to audio channels 17-32 and the channels routed >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>RME >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>outputs 17-32. and 16 audio tracks are streamed from SX to Paris, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>being >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>processed in both platforms. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Paris MEC 3 mixer channels 1 thru 14 set to bus lightpipe from > > 14 > >>>>>>>>>channels >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>playing back in SX on ADAT channels 1-14 routed to RME 9652 #2 > > ADAT > >>>>>>>!/O >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>#2 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>and RME #2 ADAT I/O #3 assigned to audio channels 33-46.. RME ADAT >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>channels >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>47 and 48 are set up as a stereo FX bus for all send FX being >>>>>> >>>>>>applied >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>tracks in Cubase SX.which is bussing to/from Paris Submix 3, Aux >>>>> >>>>>1 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>interfacing with Paris ADAT I/O #15 and 16. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>The mix template routing between the two work stations is as >>>>>> >>>>>>follows: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Paris Submix 1-Drums (usually) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Using RME HDSP 9652 Card #1 bussing to Paris Submix 1 and 2 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 1>RME 1 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 1 >>>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 2>RME 1 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 2 >>>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 3>RME 1 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 3 >>>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 4>RME 1 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 4 >>>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 5>RME 1 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 5 >>>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 6>RME 1 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 6 >>>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 7>RME 1 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 7 >>>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 8>RME 1 ADAT 1-8 out > Paris CH 8 >>>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 9>RME 1 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 9 >>>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 10>RME 1 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 1
um, then it's a "germanulation", which means "dirty", as far as I know. Neil "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote: >Whoa! I thought Gemanium was outlawed in electronics as a biohazard years >ago? >Obviously something has developed.. where did you hear this Neil? >Do tell >AA > > > >"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:43dec981$1@linux... >> >> "Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >>>:) well, I would be looking to steal one for stupid no money >>> >>>I really need to get a better high and would love to try the new >>>chandler model for $800; >> >> The new $800 Chandler one is germanium... based on that, I'm >> thinking it's designed to be dirty. >> >> Neil > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---=_linux43deea69 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote: >Oh I'm looking for pain alright...I'm gonna attempt to sync a third computer >(Atari ) to these two using SMPTE > >And then fly Midi into the fray just for the hell of it > >Why? > >Well to see whether it can be done > >Don Hey Speaking of Atari and Paris anybody recognize this guy? > >Now if that doesn't complicate matters >"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message >news:43dec542$1@linux... >> hmmmmm.............too easy eh????........well, I could complicate things >> if >> you need to feel pain......... >> >> ;O) >> >> glad you're happening. enjoy. >> >> deej >> >> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:43dead21@linux... >>> Thanks for your help guys...you made it almost too easy >>> >>> >>> Don >>> >>> >> >> > > ---=_linux43deea69 Content-Type: image/bmp; name="C:\Documents and Settings\Andy\My Documents\My Pictures\tankersleys atari.bmp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="tankersleys atari.bmp" Qk36EAMAAAAAADYAAAAoAAAARgEAAM0AAAABABgAAAAAAMQQAwAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAATjszKhcPIQ4GIg8HIxAIHQoCEwAAIg8HFwQAHQoCHAkBHAkB HgsDFwQAGQYALBcPJQwCGwEAIAYAIgkFFgAAFQAAKAwLMRYSJwkELA8GKw4F KQ4EIg0FEwEADgAAFAkFCAEABgEABQEAAwEAAwEBAQEBAAECAQACAgAABwIB EAYGFgoGGwgFHQcBIQcBJAcCKQoHKwwLIQMCGgEAHwgGGQYDEAAADwAADwAA DwAAEAAAEgAAFgAAGgEAHQEAIAQALhcBWEEhsZFt2baO9NCowaF+JAwAFAIA CQAABAADAgADAgABAwEABAMABAMABwQADwcADgEAGQYALRcLQisbOCUQRjYf [binary] DgAAEgMAFgcEDAAAEAMBDQEBDAAACwAACwAACQAACQAACQAABQAAAgEAAAIA AAIAAAIAAAIAAAIAAAIAAAMAAAMAAAQAAAMAAAMAAQIAAQMAAQIAAwIABwID BAABBgECCwYFBwAACQEADAMADgIAGQkAHwsAHgUAQSUNUzEZYDgfZDsiYjgb [binary] AAAUCQUIAQAGAQAFAQADAQADAQEBAQEAAQIBAAICAAAHAgEQBgYWCgYbCAUd BwEhBwElBwItCgcvCwskAgIeAAAfCAYZBgMOAAANAQAMAQAMAQAMAAAOAAAT [binary] AAAQAwENAQEMAAALAAALAAAJAAAJAAAJAAAFAAAAAAAAAQAAAAEAAQAAAAEA AQAAAAEAAAAAAQIAAQEAAQIAAQEAAQIAAQEAAQIAAQIBAQcAAAQAAQUGBQcC [binary] [binary] JQIAJAAAJgEAKgQCKQgFJgcGIAQDGAAAGQEBGQIAGQAAIQQAKwwDLwsBKQQA JAAAHwACHwAAIgIDJQUGJAUGIQIDHAAAJgoJHwMCJgoJIwoGLRQQMRsWJAsH JgwGKgoFLQsFMQ8JNRQLOBcONhYLMhADLQsAMQ8CORcKOxkMNBIFKgkAJwgA KAgCJAcANhoTKAsGKhAKJQsFIwkDJAoEGgEAIwoGFwAAGwQCHwgGHgYGGAMC FQAAFQAAFgIBDQABDAABDQACDQABDwACEQABEQACDwABDwACDQABDAACCAAB [binary] DgUnCgEkCQAeCQEUAgAQAQAdEg4IAQAGAQAFAQADAQADAQEBAQEAAQIBAAIC AAAGAQAMAgIPAwAVAgAZAwAgBgAlCAMiBQEmCgkhBQQaAQAcBQMZBgMbCAUl FBETBAEQBAAPAwAMAQALAAALAAANAQAPAQATAAAbBQA6HgCEZ0LGpoOMblMb AgAZCgEKBAAEAgEEAgIDAQEEAAEEAAAEAQAFAQANAQATAgAgCgUXAAAbBAAX BQAQAgAUCwANBAAbDwUSAAATAAAXBQYMAAAHAAEMAAAsEA8sCQYnAQAkAQAl BAElBgMfAwMWAAAUAAEVAAMVAAMUAAAeAgEoCQYtCQMlAgAfAAEbAAEaAAAc AAIdAgUeAwYaAQUYAAMkCw8jCg4jDBAYAQUZBAceCQwXAgUmDxMYAAEhAwgp ChEsEBYrDxUmChAhBgkfAwMgBQEsDwowEwwtDQcnBwEoCAMqCQYpCQQzEw0o CQArDgUmCQAkBwAlCAEeAgAqDgcaAAAhBwEnDAgnDAgfBgIaAQAbAgAcBQMV AAAUAAAVAAAVAAAXAAAZAAAZAAAXAAAUAAATAAARAAANAAAKAQAGAQAFAgAG [binary] ABoIARoLCBYLBwgBAAYBAAUBAAMBAAMBAQEBAQABAgEAAgIAAAUAAAsBARUJ BRYDABsFACIIAhsBABcDABMAABQBABMAABMAACALCSYRDxkEAigVEiYVEioZ Fh4PDBoOCg4CAA4DAAwAABYFAhMAABwEAF1BI62PcpN3XzQeEgwBAAUCAAAC AAABAQABAgEAAgMBAQMCAAUCAAsAABAAABMAABMAABMAABAAAAkAAAcBABQP [binary] CAEABgEABQEAAwEAAwEBAQEBAAECAQACAgAABQAADQMDFgoGFwQBHAYAIwkD GgIAFQUADAAAEQIAEwIAEgAAGQQCIAkHGQAAGwQCHAUDIAsJGQYDGAcEDQEA EAQADwIADAAAEAAAIQoAYUcvk3dfWUAsEwEAEAYAAwIAAAIBAAECAAECAAEC AQEBAQIAAwMACgQADwMAEgIAFAEAEgEADwAACgAACAAABQAABwAADgACFgUI DgAADAAABwAACwACGAcLFQAEEgAAEgAAEgAAEAAADwECFgoKBwAADggJCAID [binary] CAAKCAAPBgARBAASAQASAAAPAAANAAERAAMRAAESAAAUAAAaBQcQAQANBAEa ExALAAILAAEOAAAZCQoeDQoYCAIWCQEaEAYNBwAXFAYUEQMeGAs/NixQRDpa [binary] [binary] IgcAJhEJJBILFQYDCwAACAEABgEABQEAAwEAAwEBAQEBAAECAQACAwEBBQAA CwEBEQUBEgAAFgAAHgQAFwAAEwUADAAAFgcEIhEOHAcFGQAAHwMCIgQDKQoJ KQoJJQcGIwcGIAcFHgcFGwYEFwUEFggMEAIDFQAAKhIAblQ8bldBIxUDCQMA AwIAAAIBAAEBAAEBAwEAAwEAAwEBAwEABgQACgQADwMAEAAADgAADAAABwAA [binary] BwQLAAAIAQAGAQAFAQADAQADAQEBAQEAAQIBAAIDAQEFAAAKAAAQBAASAAAW AAAfBQAYAAAWAwAQAAAaBwQjDgweBwUfBgQkCAcjBQQjBQQiBAMeAAAgBAMf AwIiCQceBwUbBwYaDA0OAAAXAQArEgBcQSdTPSEVBwALBAAFAgABAQEBAQEB AgAFAgAGAQAFAAIFAAEFAQAJAQAOAAAQAAAOAAAMAAAHAAAGAQAMBwYJAAAO [binary] FAAAEwAAGQUAFQIAFgMAGwkCGAgCDgAADAAACwAACAEABgEABgEABQEAAwEB [binary] FAEOAwAKAQAFAAEAAQEAAgAAAwABAwAGAAEIAAENBQUMAQMMAAMJAAQIBAoA [binary]
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Z6l+Xd2z [binary] ---=_linux43deea69--Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote: >I'm sure other DVD drives will work. Apple just won't support the Mac >anymore if we put anything else in (but we don't have Applecare, so no big >deal there). > >As far as mpeg2 video, I don't know that you would want to edit mp2. DVD >mpeg2 is highly compressed and won't re-render or recompress well. If >capturing from a DV/HDV camera, it may be an m2t stream, which also won't >edit well (interleaved frames). > >Regards, >Dedric > >Not sure why Apple doesn't support mpeg2 for Quicktime or FCP. Not all my videos need to be masterpieces. Sometimes I just need a quick and dirty clean up, some basic editing, and then burn to a DVD. I can do this faster on my PC in Mpeg2, it's a lot more time on my Mac. The Mac is great for more professional productions, when I've got the time. James > >On 1/30/06 3:02 AM, in article 43ddd640$1@linux, "James McCloskey" ><excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> You Apple computer will work with those other DVD drives, you just need to >> install the right drivers and DVD burning software just like on a PC. On >> a Mac, some third party manufactures ship there drives with OEM software >> for the Mac. You could also get a software like Toast for burning, and there >> are others. Apple doesn't support all the third part manufactures for obvious >> reasons, cost and the support night mirror. It's the same for the most part >> on a PC, you can't just install Windows and a third party DVD drive and >> expect it to work out of the box. You have to install third party authoring >> software to burn DVDs with it. I would sa