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Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks
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description: R>&gt;&gt; = &gt;&gt;many &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;hours spent to make things = smooth for=20 Paris and wormhole as much as &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;possible &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;without = me being=20 involved at all in the sales of this plugin that &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;re
creator: Dimitrios
date: 2005-10-08T07:09:00-00:00

Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks
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description: R >&gt;&gt; = &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;Hello=20 to everyone. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;After my last = conversation with Adrian -wormhole's author- I have &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;concluded &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;that wormhole is not selling well ( = where are=20 we guys ?) so maybe &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;major &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;updates &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;will get longer to support as he has = to=20 concentrate his efforts to &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt; "selling" &gt;&gt;=20<br
creator: Cujjo
date: 2005-10-08T14:30:08-00:00

Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks
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description: mp;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;more instances). &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;I don't see us people here supporting = wormhole=20 and that makes me &gt;&gt; = &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;sad &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;and &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;maybe = all my=20 efforts toward this direction will fail somehow. &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;If we don't buy it how can we ask him = for this=20 and that ? &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;Even two or = three buys=20 would not justify major -Paris oriented- &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;updates &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;with &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;wormhole... &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;Please sign here if you care for using = wormhole even as two &gt;channel &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;cross &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;bridge beetween two computers (NOTE IT = CAN BE=20 USED ON SAME &gt;COMPUTER &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;WITH &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;DIFFERENT APPZ TOO). &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;If we sign enouph people here (enouph = depends=20 I would say 10 and &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; = &gt;&gt;over &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;=20 &
creator: Dimitrios
date: 2005-10-08T18:37:47-00:00

Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks
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description: amp;gt; &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;it &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;is = known to=20 do best, sounding good when summing... &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;Please forgive me if I am being so = pushy with=20 this but noone else &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;except &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;for Adrian (till now) has showed so = much=20 interest to help&nbsp; us &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;,Paris &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;users. &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;I wanna convince him make an automatic = LATENCY=20 compensator for VST &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;plugins &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;which I think would be great if=20 succeeded. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;Believe me if = only=20 two-three Paris users will sign this I will be &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;having &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;no guts to ask him that or anything=20 else. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;This plugin sells = for 49 $=20 only... &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;Please respond = with=20 signing also. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;With=20 regards, &gt;&gt; = &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&amp ;gt;Dimitrios &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; = &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;=20 &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;=20 &gt; &gt; ------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C5E005.16929290--This is a really good idea, but the problem is taking a working rig apart to get that info... which I'm not sure too many users can/will do. Is there a way anyone is aware of to get this kind of info w/o pulling a rig apart, say.. via soft…
creator: Cujjo
date: 2005-10-08T23:15:35-00:00

Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks
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description: ake come research on how many revisions of > paris components and Firmware(ROM) revisions are there and which > ones are the newest. > ROM chips are easy to copy, so we can make some exchange. > > That could be an excelent guide to answer "why some Paris configurations > are working for someone and for someone not", and why some configurations > doesn't work at all. > > Here are some pictures and revisions of some paris parts.... > > I hope there will be a huge response for this topic. > > Greetings to all!! > > Suad Cokljat > Indigo Audio > > > > > > >Hi All More and more I find myself mixing as opposed to tracking so I've decided to buy a/an outboard compressor(s) to insert on my Main stereo output. Only requirement is that the unit be as transparent as possible as I'm not looking to colour my mixes. Budget is between $4-$6 K I'm aware of many manufacturers but have very limited experience with high end units so I'm looking for suggestions and why the suggested unit would be appropriate. Thanks in advance DonHey Don, check this out : http://www.vintageking.com/s.nl/sc.18/category.533/it.A/id.5 373/.f I don't know how it sounds but it sure look cool. Some good words at gearslutz about this company, I'm sure much is hype as always. "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote: >Hi All > >More and more I find myself mixing as opposed to tracking so I've decided to >buy a/an outboard compressor(s) to insert on my Main stereo output. > >Only requirement is that the unit be as transparent as possible as I'm not >looking to colour my mixes. > >Budget is between $4-$6 K > >I'm aware of many manufacturers but have very limited experience with high >end units so I'm looking for suggestions and why the suggested unit would be >appropriate. > >Thanks in advance > >Don > > >Looks interesting for sure. Thanks Don "cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:436a118f$1@linux... > > > > Hey Don, > check this out : > http://www.vintageking.com/s.nl/sc.18/category.533/it.A/id.5 373…
creator: Aaron Allen
date: 2005-10-09T02:04:14-00:00

Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks
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creator: Dimitrios
date: 2005-10-09T07:47:44-00:00

Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks
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creator: Rod Lincoln
date: 2005-10-09T18:28:24-00:00

Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks
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creator: Dimitrios
date: 2005-10-09T18:49:58-00:00

Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks
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creator: Cujjo
date: 2005-10-09T19:04:43-00:00

Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks
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description: pWAJZTC4PJ/rwO Otcfc2VzaS+VexSQtnkyKcmu20u6uLCG1ns55LeWSNctG5U9P1+hyPau30KZ fFX9oWmrW9vL9kX5ZRGAz/7w+7+QFd3sE4po8728o6PU8MwpfbxjHBzVq3ll tpIpIztYHhgOR2PFdl4q8K6ZYwfabVJIWJ+6rfL+RrK0zT4bjSGuHL+ajsAw bqB0zWXK1Kxs6qcbn//Z ---=_linux436b37f1--Congratulations! I can see that bay window featuring in to your control room somehow. "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > >Well, I'm officially in and living on my own for the first time ever. :o) >It's been an adventure and a lot of work in the move. > >The guts of home is here. I've still got some minor stuff to move... one >keyboard and it's indoor stand, and various other accessories, but overall >things here are set up and happenning. The Paris system hasn't been set up >yet mind you. It's in peices awaiting me to work out a method of getting >the Paris desk inside. ;o) When I built the desk it was built to use, not >built to move, or get in and out. ;o) > >But overall, the kitchen works... the lounge works... the bedroom works... > the toilet works... the phone works... mind you the internet doesn't >work yet. I'm currently on some kind of wireless "go anywhere" system my >work is trialing (fortunately) on my laptop. It's due to be connected next >week though, and once that happens the newsgroup server will be moving with >me. It's currently sitting in my old bedroom at my previous residence in >an empty room. Doing it's job still I see though. ;o) > >The great news is that this Friday night PBS radio are playing some great >funk! The other great news is that I have fantastic TV reception here compared >to the old place. I can pick up every free to air channel better than I've >ever seen before through the main antenna in the lounge, and quite well through >my dodgy rabbit ears in my bedroom. I'm enjoying picking up ABC and SBS for >once, the "government" and "world" TV stations. > >Living on my own is certainly a new thing. I have very little cash though >at the moment, as I spent it all on those little bits that…
creator: Deej [1]
date: 2005-10-09T23:26:28-00:00

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date: 2005-10-10T04:59:27-00:00

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creator: Miguel Vigil [1]
date: 2005-10-10T12:10:29-00:00

Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks
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description: he toilet works... the phone works... mind you the internet doesn't > work yet. I'm currently on some kind of wireless "go anywhere" system my > work is trialing (fortunately) on my laptop. It's due to be connected next > week though, and once that happens the newsgroup server will be moving with > me. It's currently sitting in my old bedroom at my previous residence in > an empty room. Doing it's job still I see though. ;o) > > The great news is that this Friday night PBS radio are playing some great > funk! The other great news is that I have fantastic TV reception here compared > to the old place. I can pick up every free to air channel better than I've > ever seen before through the main antenna in the lounge, and quite well through > my dodgy rabbit ears in my bedroom. I'm enjoying picking up ABC and SBS for > once, the "government" and "world" TV stations. > > Living on my own is certainly a new thing. I have very little cash though > at the moment, as I spent it all on those little bits that you don't know > you don't have until you move out of the share house and go "Hold on! I don't > have a..." ;o) > > It's going to be fun though. It's wonderful to live somewhere you can watch > what y
creator: Deej [1]
date: 2005-10-10T17:28:01-00:00

Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks
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description: oskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>news:436ab747$1@linux... >>>>> >>>>> I haven't run my windows XP machine in awhile, I just started it up > and >>> I >>>>> no longer have desk top Icons, what's up with that? It runs Ok, but > no >>> >>>>> Icons. >>>>> >>>>> Thought you guys would know. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> James >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C5E175.C1D9B220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Last time I talked w/DBx, Tom Cram was the dude I spoke with, super = guy/real helpful. I highly recommend him, he was instrumental in helping = me rebuild one of my 160's when I got them a few years back.=20 tcram AT dbxpro DOT com AA "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message = news:436ba859@linux... Thanks for the help Gene and Aaron. >Some of the old 166 compressors with the original DBX VCA do sound = good. >Closer to a 160VU than any other DBX. =20 The problem is that my 166 needs repair. It's not worth repairing if it isn't the model Gene refers to. I bought the 166 for $1,000 when = they first<br
creator: Dimitrios
date: 2005-10-10T18:42:12-00:00

Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks
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description: to:1@linux..." target="_blank">1@linux... "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote: > > >Gene, >I have a very early 166 and a 161VU. Is it possible they >use the same vca?!?! I couldn't find anything out doing a=3D20 >google search about it. I wonder if the new DBX (Harmon) = would=3D20 >have any records on that? I'd open them up and look >but I'm not sure which component is the VCA. =3D20 > >Any tips for me to learn more? I'll look inside for clues. >Tom > I know the 163 and the 166 share the same VCA (except as noted) and = these both have different envelopes-of-attack from the 161. This has a lot = to do with the overall sound. I should point out that the person who told me about some of the = early 166 boxes was not from DBX, but was a technician that I trusted and he = should have known. I could be wrong about this. You should be in a good position to listen to the two units side by = side. This is really the best way anyway, particularly since many of the = older units are way overdue for a rebuild/recalibration. Looking inside is not always helpful. The early VCAs are not always = labeled. The attached image looks generally like most of the early VCAs. ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C5E175.C1D9B220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> Last time I talked w/DBx, Tom Cram was = the dude I=20 spoke with, super guy/real helpful. I highly recommend him, he was = instrumental=20 in helping me rebuild one of my 160's when I got them a few years back.=20 &nbsp; <A = href=3D"mailto:tcram@dbxpro.com">tcram AT dbxpro=20 DOT com &nbsp; <FONT face=3DArial siz
creator: Deej [1]
date: 2005-10-10T18:47:01-00:00

Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks
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creator: Cujjo
date: 2005-10-10T19:31:04-00:00

Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks
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creator: excelav
date: 2005-10-10T20:12:48-00:00

Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks
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description: gt;=3D3D&lt;BR&gt;&gt;me=2 0 rebuild one of my 160's when =3D &gt;I got them=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; = a few years=20 back.=3D3D20&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp ;gt;tcram AT dbxpro = DOT=3D20 &gt;&nbsp;=20 com&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;AA&am p;lt;BR&gt;&gt; "Tom Bruhl"=20 &lt;&lt;A=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; href=3D3D"<A=20 = href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi= o@comcast.net"&gt;arpegio@comcast.net&lt;/A&gt;&gt;=20 wrote =3D &gt;in message=3D20 &gt;&nbsp;=20 =3D3D&lt;BR&gt;&gt;news:436ba859@linux...&lt;BR&gt;&gt; Thanks for the = help=20 =3D &gt;Gene and=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; = Aaron.&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt; &gt;Some=20 of the old 166 compressors with =3D &gt;the=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; = original DBX VCA=20 do sound =3D3D&lt;BR&gt;&gt;good.&lt;BR&gt;&g t; &gt;Closer to = =3D &gt;a=20 160VU=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; than any other DBX. = =3D3D20&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;= 20 The problem is that my =3D &gt;166 needs=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; repair. = It's not=20 worth repairing if&lt;BR&gt;&gt; it isn't the = =3D &gt;model=3D20 &gt;&nbsp;=20 Gene refers to. I bought the 166 for $1,000 when = =3D3D&lt;BR&gt;&gt;they=20 =3D &gt; &gt;&nbsp; first&lt;BR&gt;&gt; came out. I had to wait = for=20 delivery to the=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; store. I'm pretty sure = =3D3D&lt;BR&gt;&gt;it=20 was out of =3D &gt;the&lt;BR&gt;&gt; first=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; run. = I am running=20 the serial number by DBX to see what they=3D20 &gt;&nbsp;=20 =3D3D&lt;BR&gt;&gt;say. Also&lt;BR&gt;&gt; looking for specialists in=20 =3D &gt;this=3D20 &gt;&nbsp; field. I might call Eric at Earth=20 =3D &gt;=3D3D&lt;BR&gt;&gt;Works.&lt;BR& gt;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt; = =3D20 &gt;&nbsp;=20 Thanks for the info,&lt;BR&gt;&gt; = =3D &gt;Tom&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;& gt;=20<br /
creator: Deej [1]
date: 2005-10-11T01:51:43-00:00

Re: Compensate_senderella_effected_tracks
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description: around just in case, right? ;oP "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:436fc4d4@linux... So Deej what happens when you use a X-over cable...out of curiousity = that is? ;-) Don "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message = news:436fb716$1@linux... Edna, This is a standard CAT5 LAN cable, not a telephone cable. Also, make = sure you do ****NOT**** use a crossover cable........I = repeat........... do ****NOT**** use a crossover = cable.......errrrr.....and make sure that whatever you do, ****NOT**** = use a crossover cable. Using a crossover cable *will* fry your = MEC..........no kiddin'. It's one of the wonderful little omissions in = the Paris manual. ;Do Deej Here's a link to cables: = http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=3Dlist& amp;SubCategory=3D= 132&CMP=3DKNC-GoogleAdwords&ATT=3DCables Or if you live in a city like most people, you can buy these at = Office Depot/Best Buy, etc. I always have to order my stuff online = because I live in a cave in the wilderness. ;o) "Edna Sloan" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message = news:436fb3fd@linux... Hi, is the C-16 cable just an ordinary telephone cable? Wired the = same? Also, anyone know where I might obtain the sample project disk? Many thanks, Edna ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C5E3B7.48801100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> hehehehe.........try it out and see. = You *do* have=20 a spare MEC and C-16 sitting around just in case, right? &nbsp; ;oP &nbsp; <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> "Don Nafe" &lt;<A = href=3D"mailto:dnafe@magma.ca">dnafe@magma.ca&gt;=20 wrote in message <A=20 href=3D"news:436fc4d4@linux">news:<a href="m
creator: excelav
date: 2005-10-11T06:21:38-00:00