s not to do. When you simply present your ideas without aspersions and name calling you're way more likely to be convincing, FWIW. Calling names in response to someone noticing the "do what I say not what I do" thing, or pretending it didn't happen or no one noticed, are not your most convincing arguments for correctness of position. In any case, criticism of the people in charge when problems come up is expected and appropriate in a democracy. And even a day's difference (if we assume you're right) could be life or death for real people in the situation we're discussing. With Katrina criticism is coming from left, right, up, down and sideways because
re than 1 day's difference, to then bring up Iraq and Kyoto > and all these other partisan unrelated issues, to bash the president > once again using such a tragedy, is is inappropriate and > unacceptable, even immoral to many of us. Apprently it is just fine > with you though. > > Balance is not hearing both sides presented here, nor is it partisan > to expect the anti-Bush tirades to abate for a few days at least > during this awful event. It's the decent thing to do. It's obvious > to most people. > > To obfuscate this point, to simply turn words around into a debate > is intellectually corrupt. This is what passes for reasoning with you > and I am not going to participate. It is clear that you are less > honest fair or balanced than you present yourself as, and I will not > be responding to you in the future. > > DCThings are just getting a little too tense around here. I don't want to have to be editing posts, deleting threads, banning people or anything like that. Things are getting a little too heated and most of the current threads of discussion are currently a long way from anything I'd call "intelligent and fruitfull". Not that nothing positive has been said, but generally there's not much understanding happenning. We're all a little tense over this New Orleans thing. Everyone who wants to has made a statement. I'd app
reciate if everyone could step back for a moment and reflect upon the needy in all this. We're all keen to find someone to blame... someone at fault. We're all frustrated by what's going on. Let's stop attacking each other and think about how we may be able to help. At heart everybody is just frustrated by the issues and doesn't want to see any more mistakes. Let's reflect upon that. And let's remember that none of us are all right or all wrong. Like I said, I don't want to have to start editing posts and threads. Let's chill out a bit. Cheers, Kim.I'd like to unilaterally apologize to Cron for the tone of my posts. It wasn't polite at all. We were both upset and I certainly played a part in all of this too. Sorry. DJ "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:431bdcd2$1@linux... > > > Things are just getting a little too tense around here. I don't want to have > to be editing posts, deleting threads, banning people or anything like that. > Things are getting a little too heated and most of the current threads of > discussion are currently a long way from anything I'd call "intelligent and > fruitfull". Not that nothing positive has been said, but generally there's > not much understanding happenning. > > We're all a little tense over this New Orleans thing. Everyone who wants > to has made a statement. I'd appreciate if everyone could step back for a > moment and reflect upon the needy in all this. We're all keen to find someone > to blame... someone at fault. We're all frustrated by what's going on. Let's > stop attacking each other and think about how we may be able to help. > > At heart everybody is just frustrated by the issues and doesn't want to see > any more mistakes. Let's
reflect upon that. > > And let's remember that none of us are all right or all wrong. > > Like I said, I don't want to have to start editing posts and threads. Let's > chill out a bit. > > Cheers, > Kim.Anybody know of a good place to buy some road cases. I need a couple of cases... one or two for 61 key keyboards, plus one for rack mount effects and stuff... about maybe 10RU or so. It needs to be reasonably rugged, but not stupidly. Pretty much I'm always packing the gear in my own car so I can take care of it to a degree, but I don't want a case I'll need to replace in 5 years. Cheers, Kim.I actually had this thought once before but then reading some of these posts reminded of that thought. the thought is this..... have debate shows on TV influenced the way ordinary people like us talk about our views on things? on those shows you get like 4 minutes total for all sides to voice their opinion. when the issues are big and important you often get very opinionated people who are practically yelling at each other and not being very personable. let's face it.... if somebody makes some outlandish comment or calls somebody a name, its good for ratings and make more "news". where are we gonna be in 20 years if we can't talk about government without hating each other and cussing people out? JeremySamulson Cases in Sydney...part of Panavision Cnr McClaren St and Hotham Pde Artarmon -- Martin Harrington www.lendanear-sound.com "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:431beb3a$1@linux... > > > Anybody know of a good place to buy some road cases. I need a couple of > cases... > one or two for 61 key keyboards, plus one for rack mount effects and > stuff... > about maybe 10RU or so. > > It needs to be reasonably rugged, but not stupidly. Pretty
much I'm always > packing the gear in my own car so I can take care of it to a degree, but > I don't want a case I'll need to replace in 5 years. > > Cheers, > Kim.Good to see someone take care about all this idiotic hatemailings that have showes up here lately. No one can help what has happened and is happening in New Orleans right now. The only thing is to hope that the people of America and the American Gouvernment now have learned something for the future, that the infrastructure and weather in a country have more importance than all wars for riches and oil, just to take care of the ultra high standards of living in some places in the world like America and have will to do something with it. I saw a documentation program yesterday in Norwegian TV that showed up how USA now are trying to take control over the oil from WestAfrica, just to see that China are trying the same thing. China needs the oil to start up all their big "wheels" and USA needs the oil to get their "old wheels" spin some rounds more. It was not good to see for the Kyoto deal and for the future of the earth at all. Erling "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:431b765c$1@linux... > > > I would appreciate it dude if you could not use profanity to insult NG > participants, > especially in the subject line. I can undestand getting worked up and all, > and I think it's good to be passionate about your views, but I think we > need > to show some respect and keep things civil. > > Where possible I'd also prefer we kept political stuff on the General > group. > I understand topics can drift though... > > Cheers, > Kim. > > > "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compounded> wrote: >>[FEMA], run by Brown since 2003, is now at the center of a growing fury > over >>the handling of the New Orleans disaster. ``I look at FEMA and I shake my > >>head,'' said a furious [Republican] Gov. Mitt Romney yesterday, calling > the >>response ``an embarrassment.'' >>***************** >> >>Newt Gingrich, the former House Speaker, is among those who have asked >>whether Bush's Department of Homeland Security is up to the job. 'If we > >>can't respond faster than this, then why do we think we're prepared to >>respond to a nuclear or biological attack?' he pointedly asked. >>***************** >> >> >We've