> >>chrisl@adkproaudio.com >Yeah, I think it was called "sexual chocolate". Hey chuck, what ever happend to that? Rod "rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote: > >If I remember right there was a project to update no limit that was stated >named chocolate or something like that. What ever happend to that one?? > > > >"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote: >> >>Hi Tom, >> >>It's great to hear that the EQ is getting used and making a difference. >:) >> >>I was thinking of eventually doing a 2 band version just to use fewer resources >>if 2 bands are all that's needed. Mind you, now that Chuck has posted all >>the DP/Pro effects, I've got a much longer road map to work through! >> >>The reverb sounds really nice. It just blends in with the direct sound >exceptionally >>well. It's got over 40 knobs and barely fits on a 1280 x 1024 screen - >not >>so good. I'm going to rewrite the GUI so that one knob controls which of >>the 32 early reflections you are trying to edit, and a second controls that >>reflection's settings so that 32 knobs can be cut back to 2 or 3. >> >>It will probably be done by the end of next weekend. >> >>Glad to hear your PC issues are behind you! >> >>All the best, >> >>Mike<br /
/> > > Let me off at the neckist cornah. > > S > > "steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote in message > news:47512005$1@linux... > >> ..a dimension that causes me to laugh hysterically... >> >> >> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BmbsSw81Uww >> >> >> =steve >> >> >> "The most sublime comedy is unintentional!" >> >> "let's go Dutch!" >> > > > -- Chris Ludwig ADK chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/> (859) 635-5762Not quite. Most buss compressors are emulations of either the SSL (Quad Compressor-Buss compressor)or the Fairchild 670. These compressors do one thing and one thing well and that is glue together a mix..Some may even descibe it as, they narrow the stereo feild at bit and holds a tight grip on a mix. Where as a maximizer does not "glue " a mix, but let's you get loud. The Multiband, is really more an clever eq ,but lets you compressor different bands.. The term precision limiter is a new term for me. I think this kind of Compressor combines the Maximixer capabilities along with Intelligent Limiter (alas Paris). To alow some harmonic distortion in a smooth way, but not overs.. Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote: >I love UAD1 plugs, BUT... I think they need to start combining their >stuff into fewer products. Most companies would have a Precision >Limiter, Maximizer and Buss compressor 9don't they all do the same >thing?) in one unit - and maybe even the Multiband too. > >DJ wrote: >> http://www.uaudio.com/webzine/2007/december/index7.html >> >>Your right Martin. Have you ever noticed that a clipped looking mix in Paris (in the destructive editor) doesn't look nearly as clipped, or even clipped at all, if you look at it in another app, like Wavelab. Good point Rod Martin Harrington <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote: >But...from my observations, if you look at a compressed wave file that has >been compressed to say -.07dbfs, as an overall file, it will look like it's >been severely clipped. >If you go into sample level, you'll find that all the waveforms are nicely >rounded. >Don't forget, waveform graphics are just approximations, especially if your >viewing a large file as a whole. >Martin H > > >On 3/12/07 12:45 PM, in article 475351ab$<a href="mailto:1@linux" target="_blank
t;Thanks to this whole group for all your = > >answers! > > > Bottom line - aface=3DArial=20 >size=3D2>ll is better than ever in Paris. > Tom B. > > > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, = >and=20 >you? <A=20 >href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer= >.html > >Hey Deej - Hows the whole systemlink deal working out for you? (or is it?) I'm considering a stab at it here. ;>) JonHI Don, Do you mean the Digidesign oo2 rack or the Yamaha 02r mixer? Is he dumping Pro Tools? If he wants to transfer audio to another program and start using a different sound card all he needs to do is export the project as OMF or as broad cast wave file. He will be able to open them in any current program at that point. If he is looking to get out from under the thumb of Digi then it will matter which OS he has for the sound card choice. Is he needing to replicate the Digi's I/O as in Mic-Pre amps etc? If so then there is nothing Lynx Makes that will work also there are no options for the Mac side. The closest thing that will be higher sound quality but similar I/O configuration would be the RME Fireface 800. If he doesn't need the pres and just wants line level and digital then there are more options available. Assuming he wants a stereo analog I/O and 16 channels of ADAT. PC- Lynx L22 PCI card with the LS-ADAT expansion card RME HDSP 9652 PCI card and RME HDSP 9632 PCI card (more digital than he wanted but a powerful combo) MAC- RME PCI-e versions of the above cards Other than that the RME fireface 800 is the only device that will be the closest I/O to the digi 002r that will be of a higher sound quality. Chris Don Nafe wrote: > Hi all > > I'm posting for a guitarist friend who's looking to get a better audio card > to record and transfer files from his 002r > > He needs 2 audio inputs and the rest in light pipe -16 tracks minimum (he > says) > > I suggested the Lynx series as a starting point for both quality and price > and he thought that was reasonable > > Ant other suggestions. > > Please send links if you can so I can C&P them to him > > thanks in advance > > > -- Chris Ludwig ADK chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/> (859) 635-5762"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4758db31$1@linux... > > Hey Deej - > > Hows the whole systemlink deal working out for you? (or is it?) > I'm considering a stab at it here. > > ;>) > > Jon It works well, but................not always. DO NOT trust it for tracking live sessions simultaneously to two computers. I had some wserious glitches while doing this. For VSTi's is reliable enough to reccommend. DeejCool. I wasn't really looking at it for tracking.. more for the VST farm kind of thing (plugs and VSTi's). So you're finding the latency acceptable? Isn't it exponential (or something) as you add more machines? As always - thanks for the info! Cheers, Jon "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote: > >"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4758db31$1@linux... >> >> Hey Deej - >> >> Hows the whole systemlink deal working out for you? (or is it?) >> I'm considering a stab at it here. >> >> ;>) >> >> Jon > >It works well, but................not always. DO NOT trust it for tracking >live sessions simultaneously to two computers. I had some wserious glitches >while doing this. For VSTi's is reliable enough to reccommend. > >Deej > >On 7 Dec 2007 15:49:57 +1000, "Neil" <OI@OIU.com> wrote: > >Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote: >> >>Your punishment will be having a pair of Koss Pro4AAA's duct-taped to >>your head, while you get Britney Spears in one side, and endless >>Nickelback in the other, with Yoko Ono's solo material at the same >>time in both. >
r /> this I removed the Magma, Lucid and the =3D >main Paris = computer. >I=20 built a new (old) Paris computer using Dimitrios' Root C=20 installation. =3D > This has to be helping. >I also = eliminated=20 Pace. I have installed everything including 4 EDS = and =3D >a UAD=20 into this computer >along with more quality plugins than my = previous=20 rig. It is stable and =3D >very = powerful. > >The chip=20 that was stated above has been the cure all for all of the = =3D >fried Mecs=20 except the >first that actually saw sparks. So if your = clock stops=20 locking on a Mec =3D >this chip may be your savior. >It = only=20 takes a little over an hour for the whole job once you've done = =3D >it a=20 couple of times. > >Thanks to all that helped me through = this=20 namely Mike Audet, Rod =3D >Lincoln, my tech Dave = Matheson, >Jon=20 Jiles, Paul Artola, Justin LaPierre, Dimitrios, Deej, Kim and one=20 =3D >other person that I bought a Mec from >whose name = escapes=20 me. > >Thanks to this whole group for all your=20 answers! > >Bottom line - all is better than ever in=20 Paris. >Tom B. > > > > >I choose = Polesoft=20 Lockspam to fight spam, and=20 you? >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20 > > > ><META=20 http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20 =3D >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> > > ></HEA= D> ><BODY=20 bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> > To=20 all that helped or are=20 = just=3D20 >interested, > &= lt;FONT=20 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2> = > <FONT=20 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>You may recall in July I had a major=20 = =3D >league=3D20 >meltdown >&l= t;DIV><FONT=20 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>of my 5 card/Magma/2 Mec, = Lucid=3D20 >WC=20 system. > > I tried adding two more Mecs with a =3D >Mixer = Mixer=20 = to=3D20 >allow > 4 aux buses to tie together. As = =3D >soon=20 as I=3D20 >tied Mec #3=20 into > the mix Paris wouldn't =3D >boot. Later = I=3D20 >was=20 taught me to remove = the > <FONT=20 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Paris Default Project from the Paris = =3D >folder=20 to help=3D20 >this=20 situation. > > I then hastily booted up =3D >Paris = with=3D20 >a Mec half=20 plugged in and sparks=20 flew. > That mec is unrepairable. We =3D >tried. It=20 smoked=3D20 >a chip in the Master=20 section > labeled = fP94AD > <FONT=20 = face=3D3DArial=3D20 >size=3D3D2> &amp ;nbsp; &n= bsp; =20 = =3D20 >DM74LS > <FONT=20 = face=3D3DArial=3D20 >size=3D3D2> &amp ;nbsp; &n= bsp; =20 =3D20 >244WM > I bought 10 of them (SN74LS244DW) at=20 =3D >Digikey.com=3D20 >for short=20 money. > > After this point I could never get = the =3D >clock=20 lights=3D20 >to lock or Paris to work with or without=20 the > Lucid involved. My tech was right =3D >in=20 assuming=3D20 >the same chip was fried=20 across > all of the other Mecs. I later =3D >realized = that=3D20 >a bent pin on 2 x SCSI 2 cables=20 were > probably frying that same chip in = every =3D >Mec=20 I=3D20 >bought and tried (no smoke=20 though). > > Fast forward. During all of this =3D >I=20 removed=3D20 >the Magma, Lucid and the main Paris=20 computer. > I built a new (old) Paris computer=20 =3D >using=3D20 >Dimitrios' Root C installation. = This has to be=20 = =3D >helping. > <FONT=20 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also eliminated Pace. I have=20 =3D >installed=3D20 >everything including 4 EDS
and use the big >impressive studios for clients who want to see receptionists and 30 foot >long consoles. > >So I'm looking for a "real" job. My wife quit her job to home school our >10 year old son (and probably our 8 year old daughter once she has a groove >going) and I can't support my family on what my studio makes. Which, at >the moment, is almost nothing. I've thought about marketing myself as a >"recording consultant" to help people build and use their home studios but >I'm not sure how to go about doing that. I've also thought about marketing >my guitar playing skills for home recordists and maybe trying to get mix >work. > >Sorry - I don't much know what I'm looking for here. I guess I'm just whining >and venting a bit. I suppose I had a pretty good run. Now it's time to >go sell video systems for the local music store. Or drive a school bus! > I'm told our county school system has great benefits. I'm about to turn >56. Seems a little old to be trying to figure out what I'm going to be when >I grow up! > >Thanks for listening. You people have felt a lot like friends to me over >the last 5 - 6 years that I've been hanging out here almost every day. > >Ganttneed anyone to carry your briefcase...or water in the summer? On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 17:32:26 -0700, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote: >The Barnett shale formation is being expolored in a very serious way in >Texas. there are huge deposits of shale in western Colorado. they will be >developed, but not before the price of developing it gets so ridiculous due >to bureaucratic red tape that only the majors will have th4e money to play >the game and then the prices will be fixed by them. No way around it. the >nvironmental lobby in western Colorado is going to add 20% to the production >costs of f recovery and that will be passed along. Good or bad??? Doesn't >matter. It will happen. there are 128,000 gas wells oprojected to be drilled >along the western slope of the rocky mountains in the next 10 years. I'm so >usy here I can hardly find time to get in the studio these days. 16 hour >days are getting old.........16 hour per day billing averaging 6.5 days a >week is not. My studio could never bring in that kind of revenue. There >aren't that many people these days that know how to do what I do. The young >people who were getting into this field in the late 70's bailed out when it >went belly up in '82 and then everyone went into the computer field. I'm >among the last of a dying breed. > > > > >"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:47588f84$1@linux... >> >> Hey Deej, >> >> My wife and I have this discussion regularly. You should know the >> answer to this, but it seems to me that between the new >> discoveries in the Gulf of Mexico and the oil shale, and other >> opportunites, we should be able to put enough pressure on >> the oil producers to remove the political blackmail from oil use. >> >> Now, I realize that the greens will want to use any chance >> they can, but really, as important as alternatives are, they cannot >> do a thing for us in the short term. >> >> Why don't we do this: >> >> Get enough of our own oil to take the power away from oil >> as a weapon, and develop alternatives at the same time. >> >> Seems reasonable to me, but every time we talk about it, >> someone starts saying geothermal, hydrogen, solar, wind, >> etcetc like those things mean a damn in the near future, when >> everyone knows they don't. So develop them, yes, but first, >> oil independence. Seems to me that anything else is foolish >> and dangerous. >> >> What do you think? >> >> DC >> >> >> >I'll ask him and get back to you ASAP "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message news:4758db99$1@linux... > HI Don, > Do you mean the Digidesign oo2 rack or the Yamaha 02r mixer? > Is he dumping Pro Tools? If he wants to transfer audio to another program > and start using a different sound card all he needs to do is export the > project as OMF or as broad cast wave file. > He will be able to open them in any current program at that point. > > If he is looking to get out from under the thumb of Digi then it will > matter which OS he has for the sound card choice. > Is he needing to replicate the Digi's I/O as in Mic-Pre amps etc? If so > then there is nothing Lynx Makes that will work also there are no options > for the Mac side. > The closest thing that will be higher sound quality but similar I/O > configuration would be the RME Fireface 800. > If he doesn't need the pres and just wants line level and digital then > there are more options available. > > Assuming he wants a stereo analog I/O and 16 channels of ADAT. > PC- > Lynx L22 PCI card with the LS-ADAT expansion card > RME HDSP 9652 PCI card and RME HDSP 9632 PCI card (more digital than he > wanted but a powerful combo) > > MAC- > RME PCI-e versions of the above cards > > > Other than that the RME fireface 800 is the only device that will be the > closest I/O to the digi 002r that will be of a higher sound quality. > > > Chris > > > > > Don Nafe wrote: >> Hi all >> >> I'm posting for a guitarist friend who's looking to get a better audio >> card to record and transfer files from his 002r >> >> He needs 2 audio inputs and the rest in light pipe -16 tracks minimum (he >> says) >> >> I suggested the Lynx series as a starting point for both quality and >> price and he thought that was reasonable >> >> Ant other suggestions. >> >> Please send links if you can so I can C&P them to him >> >> thanks in advance >> >> >> > > -- > Chris Ludwig > ADK > chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com> > www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/> > (859) 635-5762Some did, some didn't, but it was the CIA who taught them first the fundamentals and then the advanced tactics of insurgency, secure communication, and so on. This was to give Russia 'it's Vietnam.' Relying on any other country for anything important is, to some extent, a danger. The US is blessed with staggering resources of our own that we use a good deal of. Some of the stuff is cheaper to get from somewhere else. However, as dangerous as relying on Saudi Arabia to keep gas in the tank might be, relying on Japan and China to keep our credit markets liquid is probably just as bad an idea. But it's pretty hard to demonize the people who build most of the stuff we buy so they're getting a free pass in the gloom and doom department. TCB "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote: > >"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote: >> >>It made a lot of people a lot of money for 80 years. And don't forget the >>helpful role played by our US spooks in 'radicalizing' those wacky middle >>easterners. >> >>TCB > >Like they need much help... > >I think we can all agree that our dependence on that region >for energy sources has given rise to much foolishness and >danger to all of us. > >DCI've been doing nothing else but playing and recording my hole life. Right now it's probably 60% playing drums and 40% engineering. Most of my drumming is recording drum tracks, but I play gigs too. I've had a good run so far. We'll see. I always think about things like that (what to do if it dries up). I've been lucky in that I have several corperate clients that I do engineering, drumming, and producing for. I use to do a lot of jingle work (drumming) but that's kind of dried up in the last couple of years. I'm almost 48, so I hope it continues for a while, or I can figure out something else if I have to. Rod Lincoln "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote: > >..How many of you nice folks actually record music (with or without Paris) >for your livings? About 13 - 14 years ago my studio began to out-earn my >gigs playing guitar in local bands and it's been my primary source of income >all this time. The problem is it's not working very well anymore. I hardly >do any demo work for bands these days. The last demo project I thought I >had lined up ended up going to a friend of their guitar player's house - >a lawyer with a Protools studio in his basement. The price? Nothing. I >couldn't compete with that! I haven't done any jingle work in years. All >the jingle writer/producers seem to have their own setups and use the big >impressive studios for clients who want to see receptionists and 30 foot >long consoles. > >So I'm looking for a "real" job. My wife quit her job to home school our >10 year old son (and probably our 8 year old daughter once she has a groove >going) and I can't support my family on what my studio makes. Which, at >the
_blank">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message = news:47598db5$1@linux... I've been doing nothing else but playing and recording my hole life. = Right now it's probably 60% playing drums and 40% engineering. Most of my = drumming is recording drum tracks, but I play gigs too. I've had a good run so = far. We'll see. I always think about things like that (what to do if it = dries up). I've been lucky in that I have several corperate clients that I do = engineering, drumming, and producing for. I use to do a lot of jingle work = (drumming) but that's kind of dried up in the last couple of years. I'm almost = 48, so I hope it continues for a while, or I can figure out something else if = I have to. Rod Lincoln "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote: > >..How many of you nice folks actually record music (with or without = Paris) >for your livings? About 13 - 14 years ago my studio began to = out-earn my >gigs playing guitar in local bands and it's been my primary source of = income >all this time. The problem is it's not working very well anymore. I = hardly >do any demo work for bands these days. The last demo project I = thought I >had lined up ended up going to a friend of their guitar player's = house - >a lawyer with a Protools studio in his basement. The price? = Nothing.=20 I >couldn't compete with that! I haven't done any jingle work in years. = All >the jingle writer/producers seem to have their own setups and use the = big >impressive studios for clients who want to see receptionists and 30 = foot >long consoles. =20 > >So I'm looking for a "real" job. My wife quit her job to home school = our >10 year old son (and probably our 8 year old daughter once she has a = groove >going) and I can't support my family on what my studio makes. = Which, at >the moment, is almost nothing. I've thought about marketing myself = as a >"recording consultant" to help people build and use their home = studios but >I'm not sure how to go about doing that. I've also thought about = marketing >my guitar playing skills for home recordists and maybe trying to get = mix >work. =20 > >Sorry - I don't much know what I'm looking for here. I guess I'm = just whining >and venting a bit. I suppose I had a pretty good run. Now it's time = to >go sell video systems for the local music store. Or drive a school = bus! > I'm told our county school system has great benefits. I'm about to = turn >56. Seems a little old to be trying to figure out what I'm going to = be when >I grow up! > >Thanks for listening. You people have felt a lot like friends to me = over >the last 5 - 6 years that I've been hanging out here almost every = day.=20 > >Gantt I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01C838DF.3D8D9310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Gantt, My situation is similar to Rod's. = I have been=20 nothing but a performer and studio owner since 1990 for = income. My=20 main income has always been performance based. The studio has = had some=20 good years where it made half = as much as performance. If I were = to compete=20 for full time business I'd have to hustle the work by attending live = shows, giving=20 reduced rates and advertising. I do none of those things and still = have more than=20 enough work to keep me busy 2-3 days/week in the studio. = It would be=20 a scary prospect to rely totally on the studio for income with = my mid level=20 room. I have friends with higher and lower level rooms none of = which are able=20 to make a living from it. It's a tough business but I love it = when I'm caught=20 in the act! Tom <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com&g= t;=20 wrote in message <A=20 = href=3D"news:47598db5$1@linux">news:47598db5$1@linux... I've= been=20 doing nothing else but playing and recording my hole life. = Right now it's=20 probably 60% playing drums and 40% engineering. Most of my = drumming is=20 recording drum tracks, but I play gigs too. I've had a good run so=20 far. We'll see. I always think about things like that (what to do = if it=20 dries up). I've been lucky in that I have several corperate = clients that=20 I do engineering, drumming, and producing for. I use to do a lot of = jingle=20 work (drumming) but that's kind of dried up in the last couple of = years.=20 I'm almost 48, so I hope it continues for a while, or I can figure = out=20 something else if I have to. Rod Lincoln "Gantt Kushner" = <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:ganttmann@comcast.net">ganttmann@comcast.net>=20 wrote: > >..How many of you nice folks actually record = music (with=20 or without Paris) >for your livings? About 13 - 14 years = ago my=20 studio began to out-earn my >gigs playing guitar in local bands = and it's=20 been my primary source of income >all this time. The = problem is=20 it's not working very well anymore. I hardly >do any demo = work for=20 bands these days. The last demo project I = thought I >had lined=20 up ended up going to a friend of their guitar player's house = - >a lawyer=20 with a Protools studio in his basement. The price? = Nothing.=20 I >couldn't compete with that! I haven't done any = jingle work=20 in years. All >the jingle writer/producers seem to have = their own=20 setups and use the big >impressive studios for clients who want = to see=20 receptionists and 30 foot >long consoles. = > >So I'm=20 looking for a "real" job. My wife quit her job to home school=20 our >10 year old son (and probably our 8 year old daughter once = she has=20 a groove >going) and I can't support my family on what my = studio=20 makes. Which, at >the moment, is almost nothing. = I've=20 thought about marketing myself as a >"recording consultant" to = help=20 people build and use their home studios but >I'm not sure how to = go=20 about doing that. I've also thought about marketing >my = guitar=20 playing skills for home recordists and maybe trying to get=20 mix >work. > >Sorry - I don't much know what = I'm=20 looking for here. I guess I'm just whining >and venting a=20 bit. I suppose I had a pretty good run. Now it's time = to >go=20 sell video systems for the local music store. Or drive a school=20 bus! > I'm told our county school system has great = benefits. I'm=20 about to turn >56. Seems a little old to be trying to = figure out=20 what I'm going to be when >I grow up! > >Thanks = for=20 listening. You people have felt a lot like friends to me = over >the last=20 5 - 6 years that I've been hanging out here almost every day.=20 > >Gantt I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, = and=20 you? <A=20 href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer= ..html ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01C838DF.3D8D9310--Commodities are called volatile for a reason. Good you're getting lots of work, Deej. I wish there were a way I could get into the $/BTU spread of oil v. NG getting back in line. Retail investors like us can't though. TCB "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote: > >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:ht6il3ddmo55pukivr0hgl3libav028oc8@4ax.com... >> need anyone to carry your briefcase...or water in the summer? >> >> > >It's nice being able to pay off some major bills but it won't last forever. >You make hay while the sun shines
I have used them for both bands, >> radio remotes,and DJing... they sound really great, and not harsh. if you >> need a little more"umph" the mackie sub is also a great piece and >> integrates >> very well sonically. >> on the other hand... if you want your speakers to be part of the light >> show... >> get the Eons and push them REALLY hard. they have a light bulb that acts >> as a capacitor so you don't blow the drivers when you crank 'em. its >> actually >> pretty fun to watch in a dark room..... >> >> >> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote: >> >>> I've been using the same pair of Yamaha 15" cabs for many years, but >>> they're just too damn heavy. I have plastic envy. Have any of you >>> guys done comparisons of wood cabs and plastic ones like the Eons? >>> >>> I'm considering a wide range of brands, including some Carvins that are >> >> >>> about half what the others cost. Any preferences? >> >>The original owner of RCF, Arturo Vicari (sp?), the maker of the first SRM450, started a new company a while back: http://www.dbtechnologies.com/mod_neues.cfm?CFID=2732984&amp ;CFTOKEN=32416958 They also recently bought RCF back from Loud (who was being sued by the Italian government for labour violations) The Opera 405 is basically a '450 in a different box. David. Bill L wrote: > The company that actually made the Mackie SRMs is Italian and they > currently sell their own line called RTF. So if you are looking for the > old Mackies go for those. > >Me, I never use the damping on the Pantheon... I always shove that control all the way to the top... come to think of it, I think I used to do the same thing with the 480L, too. Neil "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote: >Hi Neil, > >Well, I should amend my comment on Pantheon - the diffusion must have been >set low or something else I wasn't aware of in Sonar. >It's better than my first comment. I just listened to it on the dry vocal >from the Breverb demos (and others), with SonitusReverb, Pantheon, >PerfectSpace, UAD Plate 140 and W2 on a send, alternating between them (all >tweaked to be similar, and the way I would setup a deep long vocal verb to >really hear the tails). > >I'd say W2 is the clearest, but compared to Perfect Space (e.g. another >convolution verb), that's may just be a difference between IRs, and the HDIR >capabilities of W2 vs. Perfect Space. For vocal reverbs, and richer >effects, Pantheon really can do a good job. The damping doesn't seem to >work right (seems to be a cut rather than high shelf for whatever reason), >so the top end can be a little sizzly by itself. Breverb however, sounds >similar, with a little EQ on the top end, but not as much as I might put on >Pantheon to make it sit in a mix - hard to judge a mixed track vs. one that >can be tweaked, but I would probably pick Pantheon over Breverb, and >Pantheon over Sonitus. > >I would use Pantheon over the Plate 140 for some things (the plate is >narrower of course, so width is an advantage of other reverbs). I couldn't >get Nebula to work in Sonar 7, but last time I tried it in Nuendo, I liked >it's Plate better than UA's. > >This was just at 44.1k as I didn't have time to check higher sample rates >before my next session. > >All in all, reverb plugins have come a looonnnggg way in the past few years. > >Regards, >Dedric > >"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:47622459$1@linux... >> >> REALLY? Damn, your ears are better then mine, then... I'm not >> hearing ANY grain at 88.2k - are you using that samplerate, or >> 44.1??? >> >> Honestly, so far i'm feeling like the Pantheon is like a 480L >> in a plugin, in terms of quality - or damn close to it. >> >> Neil >> >> >> >> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote: >>>I have Pantheon here. My opinion is it's a bit grainy on the tails and >> not >>>as smooth as I would like. The Sonitus Reverb in Sonar 7 is a little >>>better >>>than Pantheon in some respects, and Perfect Space is noticeably better. >> As >>>you can tell, I like clarity to reverbs since the concept of reverb is at >>>the core been about recreating natural ambience, obviously within >>>significant limits of technology in past decades. However, we've become >>>accustomed to it as a colorful effect due to what those past limitations >> led >>>us to. >>> >>>To that end, with some EQ or as a short decay verb, Pantheon can work in >>>many situations. >>> >>>Just my opinion - ymmv of course. >>> >>>Dedric >>> >>>On 12/13/07 10:27 PM, in article 47620625$1@linux, "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> >>>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Has anyone here (besides me) tried the Lexicon Pantheon reverb? >>>> >>>> Neil >>>> >>>> >>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote: >>>>> Hey Lamont, >>>>> >>>>> No, actually I know some of those guys well enough to discern knowledge >>>> from >>>>> drivel - I wouldn't assume that just because someone disagrees with you >>>> they >>>>> don't know what they are talking about. >>>>> >>>>> There are people on every forum that state haphazard opinions and >>>>> hyperbole. >>>>> The key is to know the ones to regard, and the ones to take with a big >> grain >>>>> of salt. :-) >>>>> >>>>> The demos sound good, but imho, a 480, 960, TC or KSP8 impulse >>>>> convolution >>>>> sounds clearer and smoother (e.g. more like the real thing). Breverb >> sounds >>>>> a bit foggy and smeared to me, even for the marketing hype. Certainly >> a >>>>> step up from plugin reverbs in years past, but standards are higher >>>>> now. >>>>> >>>>> Dedric >>>>> >>>>> It's in range with SonitusFX reverb - better than most, but against >>>>> >>>>> On 12/13/07 9:50 PM, in article 4761fd8c$1@linux, "LaMont" >>>>> <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah I saw those early reviews on Nuendo's forum..I did not believe >> them. >>>>>> I listened to the demos on the web site and I think this Verb plug >>>>>> sounds >>>>>> fabulous!! RIght up with WIzzo Verb and IK's Classics. Like Chris >>>>>> stated, >>>>>> this is not a convo verb, but a digtal verb replica. Really smooth. >> Listen >>>>>> to the vocal demos.. Wow!! >>>>>> >>>>>> P.S. Some of those folks on the Nuendo Forum are complete idiots that >>>> are >>>>>> more concerned about the latest DAW confifg than music or the art of >> naking, >>>>>> mixng daw(nuendo) tricks etc.. They sound like complete idots when >>>>>> talking >>>>>> about anything other than Nuendo. >>>>>> >>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote: >>>>>>> The reviews so far on the Nuendo forum are saying it's average, but >> nothing >>>>>> >>>>>>> to write home about, >>>>>>> but I havent' heard it yet. Might have to get an iLok key and demo >> it, >>>>>> but >>>>>>> it annoys me that so many demos >>>>>>> are tied to keys now. Bad enough that we're getting USB key overload >>>> with >>>>>> >>>>>>> licensed products, but imho, >>>>>>> by keying demos developers are really pushing their luck with users. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At some point, the USB key idea has to end. It's a shortlived >>>>>>> concept, >>>>>> >>>>>>> imho. One cannot have 25 keys >>>>>>> hanging off of their computer, and there's no way I'm loading $10k >> of >>>>>>> software on a single $40 piece of plastic >>>>>>> and hope my insurance company understands the concept. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ...er... sorry... rant off... ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dedric >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:47616ab0$1@linux... >>>>>>>> HI Saw this at AES. Seemed to sound very nice and was really low on >>>> cpu >>>>>> >>>>>>>> resources. Hopefully I'll be able to get a full copy soon. >>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> LaMont wrote: >>>>>>>>> Check it out the audio demos.. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.overloud.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Chris Ludwig >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ADK Pro Audio >>>>>>>> (859) 635-5762 >>>>>>>> www.adkproaudio.com >>>>>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >Is 4.9 working with Paris???? "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote: > > >DJ, >> ...o'yeah...I forgot to mention that I bought it........ > >Well I guess so ? ! ! ! I'm glad it sounds like it's supposed to. >I wouldn't expect anything less from UA. They always do it right >it seems. I hope Paris likes it too. I've yearned for one once I = >realized >what it did and how much it is used by the big boys. > >I'll report back after my weekend. >Long/early gigs tomorrow and Saturday. >Oh, and Sunday the Pats are winning again. >Can't miss that. >Tom > > > > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message = >news:47622148@linux... > ...o'yeah...I forgot to mention that I bought it........ > > ;o) > > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message = >news:476220f7@linux... > I just loaded it up and the demo had expired. I sold my hardware = >unit week before last when I heard UA was coming out with this. I was = >hoping that I wouldn't be di
sappointed. I'm no. It's gotevery bit the = >same mojo and I'm very familiar with the hardware. I had it in my rack = >for almost three years. It was a leap of faith, but UA has never = >disappointed and they didn't this time either. > > You must have it.......or...... > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message = >news:4761c061@linux... > Rod and Deej, > I'm downloading 4.9 now . . . > > I'm not buying 'til I'm sure it at least works. > I never render stereo plugs but probably will need to now that > my system is one EDS shy and there more UAD goodies to use. > I've been able to squeak by just rendering all the mono instances > when the UAD is at it's max. > > I'll report back if it happens tonight. I'm supposed to have a = >session > but there is 8" of fresh snow that I just shoveled. It's still = >coming down. > I'm guessing they're going to cancel. > Tom > > > > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message = >news:4761b804$1@linux... > > It might be just you and me. > Rod > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > >I think I'll to a fresh clone before anything crazy happens! > >I might just try it to see. > > > >Is it just you and me with Paris and a UAD these days? > > > >Sheesh it's gettin' lonely around these parts. > >Tom > > > > > > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message = >=3D > >news:47619bf0$1@linux... > > > > I havn't tried the demo yet. For some reason the timed demo's = >don't =3D > >work on > > my system. I just buy it...except last time I got burned by = >the no =3D > >render > > bug...so I don't know what I'll do this time. > > Rod > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > >I have to assume it works and sounds good. Anyone > > >tried it with Paris yet? I know Rod said that > > >4.7 and up won't render stereo with plugins anymore. > > > > > >I really want that thing!!! $50 off too with their = >Christmas deal. > > > > > >Anyone? > > > > > > > > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? > > >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20 > > > > > > Transitional//EN"> > > > > > > content=3D3D3D"text/html; =3D3D > > >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"> > > > name=3D3D3DGENERATOR> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have to assume it = >works =3D3D > > >and sounds=3D3D20 > > >good. Anyone > > > tried it with Paris = >yet? I know > =3D > >=3D3D > > >Rod said=3D3D20 > > >that > > > 4.7 and up won't = >render stereo =3D > >with =3D3D > > >plugins=3D3D20 > > >anymore. > > > > > > I really want that = >thing!!! $50 > =3D > >=3D3D > > >off too with=3D3D20 > > >their Christmas deal. > > > > > > size=3D3D3D2>Anyone? > > > I choose Polesoft Lockspam = >to fight =3D > >spam, =3D3D > > >and=3D3D20 > > >you? <A=3D3D20 > > =3D > = >>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com= >/re=3D > >fer=3D3D > > >.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > > > > > > > I think I'll to a fresh = >clone before =3D > >anything crazy=3D20 > >happens! > > I might just try it to =3D > >see. > > > > Is it just you and me with = >Paris and a > =3D > >UAD these=3D20 > >days? > > > > Sheesh it's gettin' lonely = >around these > =3D > > > >parts. > > Tom > > > > > ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 > >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: = >5px; =3D > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > > "Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20 > > =3D > = >>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A= >>&g=3D > >t;=3D20 > > wrote in message <A=3D20 > > = >href=3D3D"news:47619bf0$1@linux">news:47619bf0$1@linux... I > =3D > >havn't=3D20 > > tried the demo yet. For some reason the timed demo's don't = >work =3D > >on my=3D20 > > system. I just buy it...except last time I got burned by the = >no=3D20 > > render bug...so I don't know what I'll do this = >time. Rod "Tom > =3D > >Bruhl"=3D20 > > <href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net> =3D > > > > wrote: > > >I have to assume it works and sounds =3D > >good. =3D20 > > Anyone >tried it with Paris yet? I know Rod said =3D > >that >4.7=3D20 > > and up won't render stereo with plugins anymore. > >I = >=3D > >really want=3D20 > > that thing!!! $50 off too with their Christmas=3D20 > > deal. > >Anyone? > > >I choose Polesoft =3D > >Lockspam=3D20 > > to fight spam, and =3D > >you? >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20 > > > > > Transitional//EN"> > ><META=3D20 > > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20 > > =3D3D >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"> > >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20 > > 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20 > > =3D > >name=3D3D3DGENERATOR> > ></HEA=3D > >D> ><BODY=3D20 > > bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff> > >size=3D3D3D2>I=3D20 > > have to assume it works =3D3D >and = >sounds=3D3D20 >good.=3D20 > > Anyone > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20 > > size=3D3D3D2>tried it with Paris yet? 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