3DArial size=3D3D2>Why=20 Me??? > =2 0 > I = choose=20 Polesoft Lockspam to fight > =20 spam, > = =3D > =2 0 >and=3D20 > > =20 you? <A=3D20 > = > =20 =3D > >href=3D3D"<A=20 = href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer= '>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A= > > =20 <<A=20 = href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer= '>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A= >>=3D > =2 0 >.html=20 = <BR= > > =2 0 > > = > ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01C80CDF.D52A7930--"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:470fc30b$1@linux... > > well fair enough, i have to agree with you there Well, since he is fluent in snake, at least presumably as a second language, I'm feeling much more comfortable with this. I mean, I think we need more docors in politics personally. These guys don't f*** around. They get things done in a big way.........I mean, let's take Che Guevara, Francois Duvalier, Al Zawahiri, Bilal Abdulla, Sabeel Ahmed and Joseph Mengele for example.............. I feel safer already ;o)Let's see... The therapy that my son needs for his assorted LD issues (that our insurance does NOT pay for, of course... but that's a whole 'nother topic.) comes to about $10,000. I'd be willing to forgo the Smooth Jazz version of "Seasons in the Sun" for that! Of course, this is just the beginning. Maybe I should hold out for more! Gantt "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote: > >How much would it take to talk you out of it?? > >yipes > >DC > > >"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>I used to work in the repair shop of our local music store (Washington Music >>Center) >>with a bunch of 20-something guys, one of whom was into bands like Slayer. >> He gave me no end of grief when he foound out that I had once been in a >>band that played "We Had Joy, We Had Fun, We Had Seasons in the Sun..." >2 >>or 3 times a night. The things I used to have to do to make a living. > >> >>Maybe I should do a "jazz" version of that. >> >>Gantt >> >>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote: >>> >>>Just heard a jazz version of... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Ready? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>The Windmills of Your Mind >>> >>> >>> >>>aarrggGGHHHHHHHHH! >>> >>> >>>the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind.... >>> >>> >>>damn... them's some RIPE lyrics! >>> >>>You kids today can't write like THAT! heh heh heh >>> >>>That was MUSIC! >>> >>> >>> >>>oooffff.... >>> >>>DC >>> >> >A long time I was playing a Christmas party with my friend Wade Matthews on bass. The leader was fishing around for a tune to play. Suddenly Wade shouted "White Christmas!!! Reggae style! It'll work! Trust me!". And it did. Gantt EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote: >Or maybe a reggae version! ;-) Irie! > >David. > >Gantt Kushner wrote: >> I used to work in the repair shop of our local music store (Washington Music >> Center) >> with a bunch of 20-something guys, one of whom was into bands like Slayer. >> He gave me no end of grief when he foound out that I had once been in a >> band that played "We Had Joy, We Had Fun, We Had Seasons in the Sun..." 2 >> or 3 times a night. The things I used to have to do to make a living. >> >> Maybe I should do a "jazz" version of that. >> >> Gantt >> >> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote: >> >>>Just heard a jazz version of... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Ready? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>The Windmills of Your Mind >>> >>> >>> >>>aarrggGGHHHHHHHHH! >>> >>> >>>the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind.... >>> >>> >>>damn... them's some RIPE lyrics! >>> >>>You kids today can't write like THAT! heh heh heh >>> >>>That was MUSIC! >>> >>> >>> >>>oooffff.... >>> >>>DC >>> >> >><soapbox> With skill and imagination, any tune can be done in any style. With sufficient skill and imagination, it can even be pleasant. </soapbox> But for some styles, sufficient skill and imagination might not exist in this universe. -steve "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote: > >A long time I was playing a Christmas party with my friend Wade Matthews on >bass. The leader was fishing around for a tune to play. Suddenly Wade shouted >"White Christmas!!! Reggae style! It'll work! Trust me!". > >And it did. > >Gantt > >EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote: >>Or maybe a reggae version! ;-) Irie! >> >>David. >> >>Gantt Kushner wrote: >>> I used to work in the repair shop of our local music store (Washington >Music >>> Center) >>> with a bunch of 20-something guys, one of whom was into bands like Slayer. >>> He gave me no end of grief when he foound out that I had once been in >a >>> band that played "We Had Joy, We Had Fun, We Had Seasons in the Sun..." >2 >>> or 3 times a night. The things I used to have to do to make a living. > >>> >>> Maybe I should do a "jazz" version of that. >>> >>> Gantt >>> >>> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote: >>> >>>>Just heard a jazz version of... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Ready? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>The Windmills of Your Mind >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>aarrggGGHHHHHHHHH! >>>> >>>> >>>>the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind.... >>>> >>>> >>>>damn... them's some RIPE lyrics! >>>> >>>>You kids today can't write like THAT! heh heh heh >>>> >>>>That was MUSIC! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>oooffff.... >>>> >>>>DC >>>> >>
> >>> >>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote: >I am beoming more and more convinced that high-visibility >leadership and power positions attract the worst sort of >sociopaths and lunatics. And today, I do not see how anyone >else has a chance. >DC It truly pains me to agree with you. -steveHeck yes. Tell him we have something in common. Ha Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote: >On 13 Oct 2007 01:03:40 +1000, "Rod Lincoln" ><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote: > >> >>Yeah, I heard about the Kevin C. thing. I could have bet money on that not >>working out. He's too much of a real singer with a good head on his shoulders >>for that to work out. At least he got paid for doing the record. I would >>have liked to work with him, maybe someday. >>Rod > >I can pass your contact info along to him, if you'd like.... > >pabDJ, Sanity is the ability to perceive differences and similarities. The difference between Ron Paul and those other creeps is Ron Paul delivered babies and was a flight surgeon in the Air Force before he went into politics. If just one of the changes Paul wants to make gets implemented, the country would be a better place. The other guys and gals? Bigger government, less freedom. Fuck 'em! DJ wrote: > "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:470fc30b$1@linux... >> well fair enough, i have to agree with you there > > Well, since he is fluent in snake, at least presumably as a second language, > I'm feeling much more comfortable with this. I mean, I think we need more > docors in politics personally. These guys don't f*** around. They get things > done in a big way.........I mean, let's take Che Guevara, Francois Duvalier, > Al Zawahiri, Bilal Abdulla, Sabeel Ahmed and Joseph Mengele for > example.............. > > I feel safer already > > ;o) > >"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote: > > >I am beoming more and more convinced that high-visibility >leadership and power positions attract the worst sort of >sociopaths and lunatics. And today, I do not see how anyone >else has a chance. Read up on your Suetonius, Don, that's the underlying theme of 'The Twelve Caesars.' TCB >DC > > >"John" <no@no.com> wrote: >> >>>Do you trust your leaders? Are you easily led? >>I would trust Ron Paul over any of the others combined. I would not trust >>the others. Obama seems more trustworthy than the rest though coming in >>2nd to Paul. >> >>Too bad the fix is already in. >> >>X Rudi >>X Hillary >> >>I pick neither. >> >I heard Richard Cheese's version of "VH jump" and "Ozz crazy train" this summer and let me tell ya, I'll never look at Jazz the same way again.........!!! "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:470fab01$1@linux... > > Just heard a jazz version of... > > > > > > Ready? > > > > > > > > > > > The Windmills of Your Mind > > > > aarrggGGHHHHHHHHH! > > > the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind.... > > > damn... them's some RIPE lyrics! > > You kids today can't write like THAT! heh heh heh > > That was MUSIC! > > > > oooffff.... > > DC >Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote: >DJ, Sanity and the Furious Five. Now that's hip hop! DC sorry, that juxtaposition. just caught my eye (and funny bone)"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote: >It truly pains me to agree with you. > >-steve Ah feeel yer pain brudda! DC"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote: > ><soapbox> >With skill and imagination, any tune can be done in any style. With sufficient >skill and imagination, it can even be pleasant. ></soapbox> > >But for some styles, sufficient skill and imagination might not exist in >this universe. > >-steve I want to hear a smooth jazz version of Surfin' Bird... ooohh ma ma paaapa ooohh ma ma ma DC"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote: > >"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote: >> >><soapbox> >>With skill and imagination, any tune can be done in any style. With sufficient >>skill and imagination, it can even be pleasant. >></soapbox> >> >>But for some styles, sufficient skill and imagination might not exist in >>this universe. >> >>-steve > > >I want to hear a smooth jazz version of Surfin' Bird... > >ooohh ma ma paaapa ooohh ma ma ma > >DC Don't tempt me! -steveSomeone left the cake out in the rain, now there's a song! "Rob Arsenault" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote: >I heard Richard Cheese's version of "VH jump" and "Ozz crazy train" this >summer and let me tell ya, I'll never look at Jazz the same way >again.........!!! > > >"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:470fab01$1@linux... >> >> Just heard a jazz version of... >> >> >> >> >> >> Ready? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The Windmills of Your Mind >> >> >> >> aarrggGGHHHHHHHHH! >> >> >> the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind.... >> >> >> damn... them's some RIPE lyrics! >> >> You kids today can't write like THAT! heh heh heh >> >> That was MUSIC! >> >> >> >> oooffff.... >> >> DC >> > >"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote: >Read up on your Suetonius, Don, that's the underlying theme of 'The Twelve >Caesars.' > >TCB I think Bob Hare is a lot closer... http://www.hare.org/ DCThis is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C80CFA.3CBC9B90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Got everything out of magma, reseated it's card. Booted computer fine with nothing in magma. Tried one eds, computer still booted fine. Tried booting with Mec attached but off no probs. Tried with mec on booted fine but am back to no clock or modules showing in Mec with Paris started. I forgot to disattach the second Mecs clock from the first and it was off. It may be why but I doubt it. I'm off to a crazy weekend but at this point am thinking the Magma is toast. ? ? ? I'll be back to hear your replies in 6 hours or so. "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message = news:470fc436@linux... The Magma power supply just stops after about 45 seconds so windows freaks and won't finish starting up. "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:470fbd61@linux... Hi Tom, Hmmm...does it fail when windows starts if the MECs are connected or = when PARIS starts? "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote: > > >Hi Mike, >I think Windows will boot fine, at least it used to with >all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach a >scsi cable to any of my three new working mecs. >It didn't a couple of days ago. > >I'm digging deeper into the way the cards are seated now. >I will check the Magma with one card and one interface at a=3D20 >time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from removing=3D20 >and reinserting the cards? =3D20 > >This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good business. >Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . .=3D20 >Tom > > > > "Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message news:470f58fa$1@linux... > > Hi Tom, > > I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any drivers. > > I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then one, then = two, =3D >etc., > until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the = =3D >Magma, > I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. You = may =3D >want to > test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong about = that. =3D > It > sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS driver = for a =3D >shit > when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are
attached (that = happens =3D >on > start up). > > Good luck! > > Mike > =3D20 > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > >Most Excellent Fix It Guys, > >New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply. > >Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards > >then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' = =3D >match. > >I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have = made =3D >=3D3D > >even > >the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too. > > > >I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The = Magma? > >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The = =3D >Magma > >tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on = the =3D >far =3D3D > >left > >for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left = as =3D >you =3D3D > >face the front. > >I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement. > > > >Everything is broken it seems. > >Tom > > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D3D > >news:470d9f41$1@linux... > > I can't believe this one but . . .=3D3D20 > > > > I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't > > start up and keep running. This began tonight as > > I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma > > would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking > > power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec > > if I baby it. > > > > Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again. > > Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there = was=3D3D20 > > a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see = =3D3D > >anything > > about that in the manual. > > > > ? ? ? > > > > Why Me??? > > > > > > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? > > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20 > > > > > > > > >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > > > > > > > Most Excellent Fix It = =3D3D > >Guys, > > New problem. Just = installed a =3D >new =3D3D > >Antec 550=3D3D20 > >watt supply. > > Powers up nicely in the = Magma. =3D >It =3D3D > >will run=3D3D20 > >with 5 EDS cards > > then shut off just = before XP =3D >boots and > =3D3D > >screws the=3D3D20 > >whole shootin' match. > > I'll double check = seating of the =3D >cards > =3D3D > >but what=3D3D20 > >else would have made even > > the new supply to = croak? Fans =3D >are =3D3D > >cooling=3D3D20 > >well too. > > > > I'm thinking I have a = broken EDS =3D >then =3D3D > >? Maybe=3D3D20 > >3 . . . ? The Magma? > > Damn. Are there Magma = =3D3D > >drivers? If so=3D3D20 > >I'd need older ones. The Magma > > tech was almost = laughing at how =3D >old =3D3D > >mine is. =3D3D20 > >It has a slot on the far left > > for the Magma card. The = newer =3D >=3D3D > >one's slot=3D3D20 > >#s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the front. > > I think mine's the = opposite =3D >judging by > =3D3D > >my master=3D3D20 > >card placement. > > > > Everything is broken it = =3D3D > >seems. > > Tom > > > > >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: = 5px; =3D >=3D3D > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20 > > = href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net> =3D >wrote =3D3D > >in message=3D3D20 > > href=3D3D3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux... > > I can't believe this = one but . =3D >. . =3D3D > > > > > > I've had 5 cards in a = 13 slot =3D >Magma =3D3D > >for=3D3D20 > > years. Now it won't > > start up and keep = running. =3D >This =3D3D > >began=3D3D20 > > tonight as > > I tried adding Mec #2 = to a 1 =3D >Mec =3D3D > >setup. The=3D3D20 > > Magma > > would power on for a = split =3D >second =3D3D > >then=3D3D20 > > stop. I'm thinking > > power supply. It = might still =3D >=3D3D > >work with all=3D3D20 > > 5 cards and 1 Mec > > if I baby = it. > > > > Once it's off I have = to =3D >unplug, wait, > =3D3D > >replug and=3D3D20 > > start again. > > Maybe it will start = up with =3D >one Mec =3D3D > >then. I=3D3D20 > > thought there was > > a auto shut off = mechanism =3D >built in to > =3D3D > >the=3D3D20 > > Magma. I didn't see anything > > about that in the = =3D3D > >manual. > > > > ? ? ? > > > > Why = Me??? > > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to = fight =3D >spam, > =3D3D > >and=3D3D20 > > you? <A=3D3D20 > > =3D3D > =3D = >>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com= /re=3D >fer=3D3D > >.html > > > > > > > > > charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > > Hi Mike, > I think Windows will boot = fine, at =3D >least it used to=3D20 >with > all 5 cards in it. Now it = chokes =3D >as soon as I=3D20 >attach a > scsi cable to any of my three = new =3D >working=3D20 >mecs. > It didn't a couple of days =3D >ago. > > I'm digging deeper into the = way the =3D >cards are=3D20 >seated now. > I will check the Magma with = one card =3D >and one=3D20 >interface at a > time. Maybe the scherzo = drivers =3D >are screwy=3D20 >from removing > and reinserting the cards? = =3D > > > This is amazing how one little = thing =3D >can ruin a=3D20 >good business. > Well maybe it's 10 little = things but. . =3D >.=3D20 > > Tom > > > ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = =3D >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > "Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message <A=3D20 > =3D = >href=3D3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">ne
lt;FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>tech was almost = laughing at how > > =3D > > >old =3D3D > > > >mine is. =3D3D20 > > > >It has a slot on the far left > > > > for the Magma = card. The newer =3D > > >=3D3D > > > >one's slot=3D3D20 > > > >#s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the front. > > > > I think mine's = the opposite =3D > > >judging by > > > =3D3D > > > >my master=3D3D20 > > > >card placement. > > > > > > > > Everything is = broken it =3D3D > > > >seems. > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D > > >=3D3D > > > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > > > > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20 > > > > = href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net> =3D > > >wrote =3D3D > > > >in message=3D3D20 > > > > > = >href=3D3D3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux... > > > > I can't believe = this one but . > > =3D > > >. . =3D3D > > > > > > > > > > > > I've had 5 = cards in a 13 slot > > =3D > > >Magma =3D3D > > > >for=3D3D20 > > > > years. Now it won't > > > > start up and = keep running. =3D > > >This =3D3D > > > >began=3D3D20 > > > > tonight as > > > > I tried adding = Mec #2 to a 1 =3D > > >Mec =3D3D > > > >setup. The=3D3D20 > > > > Magma > > > > would power on = for a split =3D > > >second =3D3D > > > >then=3D3D20 > > > > stop. I'm thinking > > > > power supply. = It might still =3D > > >=3D3D > > > >work with all=3D3D20 > > > > 5 cards and 1 Mec > > > > if I baby = it. > > > > > > > > Once it's off I = have to =3D > > >unplug, wait, > > > =3D3D > > > >replug and=3D3D20 > > > > start again. > > > > Maybe it will = start up with =3D > > >one Mec =3D3D > > > >then. I=3D3D20 > > > > thought there was > > > > a auto shut off = mechanism =3D > > >built in to > > > =3D3D > > > >the=3D3D20 > > > > Magma. I didn't see anything > > > > about that in = the =3D3D > > > >manual. > > > > > > > > ? ? = ? > > > > > > > > Why = Me??? > > > > I choose Polesoft = Lockspam to fight =3D > > >spam, > > > =3D3D > > > >and=3D3D20 > > > > you? <A=3D3D20 > > > > =3D3D > > > =3D > > = >>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com= /re=3D > > >fer=3D3D > > > >.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mike, > > > I think Windows will = boot fine, at =3D > > >least it used to=3D20 > > >with > > > all 5 cards in it. Now = it chokes =3D > > >as soon as I=3D20 > > >attach a > > > scsi cable to any of my = three new =3D > > >working=3D20 > > >mecs. > > > It didn't a couple of = days =3D > > >ago. > > > > > > I'm digging deeper into = the way the =3D > > >cards are=3D20 > > >seated now. > > > I will check the Magma = with one card =3D > > >and one=3D20 > > >interface at a > > > time. Maybe the scherzo = drivers =3D > > >are screwy=3D20 > > >from removing > > > and reinserting the = cards? =3D > > > > > > > > > This is amazing how one = little thing =3D > > >can ruin a=3D20 > > >good business. > > > Well maybe it's 10 = little things but. . > > =3D > > >.=3D20 > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 > > >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D > > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > > > "Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message <A=3D20 > > > =3D > > = >href=3D3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux... H= i=3D20 > > > Tom, I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't = require any=3D20 > > > drivers. I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS = cards in, then > > =3D > > >one,=3D20 > > > then two, etc., until you can find the problem. If it = is the =3D > > >bridge=3D20 > > > chips in the Magma, I believe Windows would fail even if = no cards =3D > > >were in=3D20 > > > it. You may want to test it with another PCI card in it = just =3D > > >in case=3D20 > > > I'm wrong about that. It sounds to me like a bad card = that is =3D > > > > > > throwing the PARIS driver for a shit when it tries to = innitialize =3D > > >any 442s=3D20 > > > that are attached (that happens on start = up). Good=3D20 > > > luck! Mike "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20 > > > = href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net>=3D20 > > > wrote: > > >Most Excellent Fix It = Guys, >New=3D20 > > > problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt =3D > > >supply. >Powers up=3D20 > > > nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards >then = =3D > > >shut off=3D20 > > > just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' = match. >I'll =3D > > >double=3D20 > > > check seating of the cards but what else would have = made=3D20 > > > =3D3D >even >the new supply to croak? Fans are = cooling =3D > > >well=3D20 > > > too. > >I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? =3D > > >Maybe 3 . .=3D20 > > > . ? The Magma? >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? =3D > > >If so=3D20 > > > I'd need older ones. The Magma >tech was almost = laughing =3D > > >at how=3D20 > > > old mine is. It has a slot on the far = =3D3D >left >for =3D > > >the Magma=3D20 > > > card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you = =3D > > >=3D3D >face=3D20 > > > the front. >I think mine's the opposite judging by my = master =3D > > >card=3D20 > > > placement. > >Everything is broken it=3D20 > >
ze=3D3D3D2> > =3D > > > <FONT=3D20 > > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Once it's off I have to = unplug,=3D20 > > > wait, =3D3D >replug and=3D3D20 > start=3D20 > > > again. > > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20 > > > size=3D3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec = =3D3D >then.=3D20 > > > I=3D3D20 > thought there was =3D > > > > =3D20 > > > a auto shut off = =3D > > >mechanism built=3D20 > > > in to =3D3D >the=3D3D20 > Magma. I didn't = see=3D20 > > > anything > <FONT=3D20 > > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>about that in the=3D20 > > > =3D3D >manual. > =3D > > > <FONT=3D20 > > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2> > =3D20 > > > ? ?=3D20 > > > ? > > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20 > > > size=3D3D3D2> > =3D > > > <FONT=3D20 > > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Why =3D > > >Me??? > =3D20 > > > I choose =3D > > >Polesoft Lockspam=3D20 > > > to fight spam, =3D3D >and=3D3D20 > =3D20 > > > you? <A=3D3D20 > =3D3D >href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20 > > > =3D > > = >href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re= fer=3D > > = >'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D= > > >>=3D3D >.html=3D20 > > > =3D > > > <BR=3D > > >>> > > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C80D78.D2EF3DB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My tech probably can. <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> "rick" <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com> = wrote in=20 message <A=20 = href=3D"news:4131h3prqigrc2lm11ut4lfu3lcb160n96@4ax.com">news:4131h3prqig= rc2lm11ut4lfu3lcb160n96@4ax.com... sorry=20 i hadn't read all the other posts but even new ones can be = bad.. i've never=20 used a magma so i'm not familiar with their hookup protocol. can = you put=20 a meter on the power feeds to see if their output=20 is correct? On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 02:06:58 -0400, "Tom = Bruhl"=20 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:= >Rick, >I=20 just replaced the power supply in the magma yesterday. The mecs = are=20 brand new/used to me. >I have two others to try but I'm afraid = I'd be=20 toasting them one by one somehow. >This is so outlandish I don't = know=20 what to think anymore. >Tom > > "rick" <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com> = wrote in=20 message <A=20 = href=3D"news:qn00h3t7hi790656b1qcjk40s7bvnqvt9r@4ax.com">news:qn00h3t7hi7= 90656b1qcjk40s7bvnqvt9r@4ax.com... > =20 maybe the ps is going. > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 = 18:03:47=20 -0400, "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net> >&n= bsp;=20 wrote: > > >Got everything out of magma, reseated = it's=20 card. > >Booted computer fine with nothing in=20 magma. > >Tried one eds, computer still booted=20 fine. > >Tried booting with Mec attached but off no=20 probs. > >Tried with mec on booted fine but am back to=20 no > >clock or modules showing in Mec with Paris=20 started. > >I forgot to disattach the second Mecs clock = from=20 the first > >and it was off. It may be why but I = doubt=20 it. > > > >I'm off to a crazy weekend = but at=20 this point am thinking > >the Magma is toast. ? ?=20 ? > >I'll be back to hear your replies in 6 hours or=20 so. > > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net> wrote = in message=20 news:470fc436@linux... > =20 > The Magma power supply just stops after about 45=20 seconds > > so windows freaks and won't finish = starting=20 up. > > "Mike Audet" = <mike@....> wrote=20 in message <A=20 href=3D"news:470fbd61@linux">news:470fbd61@linux... > =20 > > > Hi Tom, > =20 > > > Hmmm...does it fail when = windows=20 starts if the MECs are connected or when > = > =20 PARIS starts? > > > > = "Tom=20 Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net>=20 wrote: > > > > =20 > > > > = >Hi=20 Mike, > > >I think Windows will = boot fine,=20 at least it used to with > > >all = 5 cards=20 in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach a > =20 > >scsi cable to any of my three new working=20 mecs. > > >It didn't a couple of = days=20 ago. > > > > =20 > >I'm digging deeper into the way the cards = are=20 seated now. > > >I will check the = Magma=20 with one card and one interface at a=3D20 > = > =20 >time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from=20 removing=3D20 > > >and reinserting = the=20 cards? =3D20 > > > > =20 > >This is amazing how one little thing can = ruin a=20 good business. > > >Well maybe = it's 10=20 little things but. . .=3D20 > > =20 >Tom > > > > =20 > > > > =20 > > > > "Mike Audet"=20 <Mike@...> wrote in message <A=20 = href=3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux... > = =20 > > > > = > Hi=20 Tom, > > > > =20 > > I have the same old Magma, and it = doesn't=20 require any drivers. > > = > > =20 > > I'd try booting Windows XP with no = EDS cards=20 in, then one, then two, =3D > > =20 >etc., > > > until you = can find=20 the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the =3D > =20 > >Magma, > > = > I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in = it. You=20 may =3D > > >want to > = > > test it with another PCI card in it = just in=20 case I'm wrong about that. > > =20
bsp; > > > = start up=20 and keep running. This began tonight as > =20 > > > I tried adding Mec #2 to = a 1 Mec=20 setup. The Magma > > > = > would power on for a split second then stop. I'm=20 thinking > > > > = power=20 supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 = Mec > =20 > > > if I baby = it. > =20 > > > > = > =20 > > Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and = start=20 again. > > > > = Maybe it=20 will start up with one Mec then. I thought there = was=3D3D20 > =20 > > > a auto shut off mechanism = built=20 in to the Magma. I didn't see =3D3D > = > =20 > >anything > > = > =20 > about that in the manual. > = > =20 > > > > > = > ? ?=20 ? > > > > > =20 > > > Why Me??? > =20 > > > > = > =20 > > > > > = > I=20 choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? > =20 > > > <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer= ..html =20 =3D20 > > > = > > =20 > > > > > = > =20 > > > = > =20 > > > =20 >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"> > > = > > > > = > =20 > > > =20 > > > > = > =20 > > = > =20 > > Most Excellent=20 Fix It =3D3D > > > =20 >Guys, > = > =20 > > New problem.=20 Just installed a =3D > > >new=20 =3D3D > > > >Antec=20 550=3D3D20 > > > >watt=20 supply. > > =20 > > Powers up=20 nicely in the Magma. =3D > > >It=20 =3D3D > > > >will=20 run=3D3D20 > > > >with 5 = EDS=20 cards > > = > =20 > then shut off = just before=20 XP =3D > > >boots = and > =20 > > =3D3D > = > =20 > >screws the=3D3D20 > > = > =20 >whole shootin' match. > =20 > > > I'll double check seating of the > =20 > =3D > > =20 >cards > > > = =3D3D > =20 > > >but what=3D3D20 > =20 > > >else would have made=20 even > > = > =20 > the new = supply to croak?=20 Fans =3D > > >are = =3D3D > =20 > > >cooling=3D3D20 > =20 > > >well=20 too. > > = > =20 > = > > > =20 > I'm thinking = I have a=20 broken EDS > > =3D > =20 > >then =3D3D > = > =20 > >? Maybe=3D3D20 > > = > =20 >3 . . . ? The Magma? > =20 > > > Damn. Are there Magma =3D3D > = > =20 > >drivers? If so=3D3D20 > = > =20 > >I'd need older ones. The=20 Magma > > = > =20 > tech was = almost laughing=20 at how > > =3D > =20 > >old =3D3D > = > =20 > >mine is. =3D3D20 > > = > =20 >It has a slot on the far = left > =20 > > > for the Magma card. The newer =3D > =20 > >=3D3D > > = > =20 >one's slot=3D3D20 > > > = >#s go=20 1-13 rt to left as you face the = front. > =20 > > > I think mine's the opposite =3D > =20 > >judging by > = > =20 > =3D3D > > > = >my=20 master=3D3D20 > > > >card = placement. > = > =20 > > =20 > > > =20 > Everything is = broken it=20 =3D3D > > > =20 >seems. > = > =20 > > Tom</DIV&amp ;gt; > =20 > > > > = > =20 > > =20 > > >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; = PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D > = > =20 >=3D3D > > > = >BORDER-LEFT:=20 #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > = > =20 > > "Tom Bruhl" = <<A=3D3D20 > =20 > > > href=3D3D3D"<A=20 = href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi= o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net>=20 =3D > > >wrote =3D3D > = > > >in message=3D3D20 > =20 > > > =20 > >href=3D3D3D"<A=20 = href=3D'news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux...</DIV'>news:47= 0d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux... = > =20 > > > <FONT=20 face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I can't believe this one but = .. > =20 > =3D > > >. = ..=20 =3D3D > > > =20 > > > = > =20 > =20 > > > = > =20 I've had 5 cards = in a 13=20 slot > > =3D > =20 > >Magma =3D3D > = > =20 > >for=3D3D20 > > = > =20 > years. Now it won't > =20 > > > <FONT=20 face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>start up and keep runni
nbsp; = > =20 > > Once=20 it's off I have to =3D > > = >unplug,=20 wait, > > > = =3D3D > =20 > > >replug and=3D3D20 > =20 > > > start=20 again. > > =20 > > Maybe=20 it will start up with =3D > > >one = Mec=20 =3D3D > > > >then.=20 I=3D3D20 > > > > = thought=20 there was > = > =20 > > a auto=20 shut off mechanism =3D > > >built = in=20 to &am
amp;gt; = >working=3D20 > =20 > = >mecs. > =20 > > It=20 didn't a couple of days =3D > > =20 >ago. > > = > =20 > > = > <FONT=20 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm digging deeper into the way the = =3D > =20 > >cards are=3D20 > = > =20 >seated now. > = > =20 > I will check the = Magma with=20 one card =3D > > >and = one=3D20 > =20 > >interface at a=20 > > =20 > time. Maybe = the scherzo=20 drivers =3D > > >are = screwy=3D20 > =20 > >from removing=20 > > &am
p;nbsp; >.=3D20 > =20 > > > =20 > ><DIV
erting the cards? =3D20 > > > > > >This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good = business. > > >Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . .=3D20 > > >Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > "Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message = news:470f58fa$1@linux... > > > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > > > I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any = drivers. > > > > > > I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then = one, then two, =3D > > >etc., > > > until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge = chips in the =3D > > >Magma, > > > I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. = You may =3D > > >want to > > > test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm = wrong about that. > > =3D > > > It > > > sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS = driver for a =3D > > >shit > > > when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached = (that happens > > =3D > > >on > > > start up). > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > Mike > > > =3D20 > > > > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@co
= if no cards =3D > > >were in=3D20 > > > it. You may want to test it with another PCI card in = it just =3D > > >in case=3D20 > > > I'm wrong about that. It sounds to me like a bad card = that i
/HTML> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mike, > > > I think Windows will = boot fine, at =3D > > >least it used to=3D20 > > >with > > > all 5 cards in it. = Now it chokes =3D > > >as soon as I=3D20 > > >attach a > > > scsi cable to any of = my three new =3D > > >working=3D20 > > >mecs. > > > It didn't a couple of = days =3D > > >ago. > > > > > > I'm digging deeper = into the way the =3D > > >cards are=3D20 > > >seated now. > > > I will check the Magma = with one card =3D > > >and one=3D20 > > >interface at a > > > time. Maybe the = scherzo drivers =3D > > >are screwy=3D20 > > >from removing > > > and reinserting the = cards? =3D > > > > > > > > > This is amazing how = one little thing =3D > > >can ruin a=3D20 > > >good business. > > > Well maybe it's 10 = little things but. . > > =3D > > >.=3D20 > > > > > > Tom > > > <FONT face=3D3
watt =3D > > >supply. >Powers up=3D20 > > > nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS = cards >then =3D > > >shut off=3D20 > > > just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' = match. >I'll =3D > > >double=3D20 > > > check seating of the cards but what else would have = made=3D20 > > > =3D3D >even >the new supply to croak? Fans are = cooling =3D > > >well=3D20 > > > too. > >I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? = =3D > > >Maybe 3 . .=3D20 > > > . ? The Magma? >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? =3D > > >If so=3D20 > > > I'd need older ones. The Magma >tech was almost = laughing =3D > > >at how=3D20 > > > old mine is. It has a slot on the far = =3D3D >left >for =3D > > >the Magma=3D20 > > > card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you = =3D > > >=3D3D >face=3D20 > > > the front. >I think mine's the opposite judging by my = master =3D > > >card=3D20 > > > placement. > >Everything is broken it=3D20 > > > seems. >Tom > > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20 > > > = href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net> wrote =3D > > >in message=3D20 > > > =3D3D >news:470d9f41$1@linux... > I can't believe = this =3D > > >one but .=3D20 > > > . .=3D3D20 > > I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma = for =3D > > > > > > years. Now it won't > start up and keep =3D > > >running. This=3D20 > > > began tonight as > I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec = =3D > > >se