OT: Politically Correct (Astute?) Comments from Jobs on DRM
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Re: OT: Politically Correct (Astute?) Comments from Jobs on DRM
old 24 or >>> 36 channel Trident Series 24 somewhere. No automation, no DAW >>> control, but they sound f-ing great and your potenital clientele >>> won't be likely to think: "ewww, I'm going to record through a >>> TASCAM???" >>> >>> Neil >>> >>> >>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>> How are the Tascam mic pres? >>>> >>>> Gantt >>>> >>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'll plug Mike Ofca again. If you want to see, and hear the DM >>>>> 3200, it's >>>>> in the back ground of Mike's video. Check it out. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.mikeofca.com/ >>>>> >>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> And the DM2000 can act as the control surface for all the major >>>>>>> DAW's? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Tascam DM-3200 and DM 480
t;have >>>>>>>you heard of Apple having people prosecuted? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Yep, it's Apple that is evil, and it's Steve Jobs that is the bad >>>>>>>guy. >>>>> >>>>>>It's >>>>>>>Jobs that wants to take your freedoms away, not Gates and his Pay to >>>Play >>>>>>>model. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Get a clue! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Well, my main take on it is that I don't care, I simply will not buy >>>>things >>>>>>>>in a format that treats me like I'm a criminal. My secondary take > on >>>>it >>>>>>>is >>>>>>>>that Esteban Jobs is wicked smart and managed to brow beat the >>>>>>>>record >>>>>labels >>>>>>>>into using his store precisely because of the DRM it had. Now that >>he's >>>>>>>cornered >>>>>>>>the market he's campaigning for the removal of the DRM because, >>>>>>>>surprise, >>>>>>>>customers don't like it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I'm also quite sure that some day in the not too distant future when >>>>you >>>>>>>>buy a car you'll have to sign and EULA that says, 'This 'motor >>>>>>>>vehicle' >>>>>>>is >>>>>>>>licensed, not sold, to you . . .' >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>BTW I'm putting my money where my mouth is on this one. I'm trying >>to >>>>>convince >>>>>>>>the Mold Monkies to release our upcoming second CD as both .ogg and >>>flac >>>>>>>>files into the file sharing universe. I'm hoping to include a note >>pointing >>>>>>>>people to our web site and saying only that if they like our music >>it >>>>>wou
ld >>>>>>>>be really cool if they would buy a sticker or a T-Shirt or pick up >>my >>>>>bar >>>>>>>>tab some night. I haven't completely convinced the guys, I don't >>>>>>>>write >>>>>>songs >>>>>>>>for this band so it's their copyright not mine, but I'm getting >>>>>>>>closer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>TCB >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Thad- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>What's your take on the idea that DRM is being foisted on all >>>>>>>>>online >>>>>stores >>>>>>>>>by the >>>>>>>>>respective rights holders/publishers? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>FLAC is very good. If anyone's on Mac, Amadeus will play FLAC >>>>>>>>>files... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Ted >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Other than the DRM and the fact that you're locked into their >>>>>>>>>>hardware, >>>>>>>>>it's >>>>>>>>>>not bad. Which is kind of like the famous, 'Other than, Mrs. >>>>>>>>>>Lincoln, >>>>>>>how >>>>>>>>>>was the show?' >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>For higher quality audio, check out FLAC. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>TCB >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>OK, so I'm an (admittedly) old curmudgeon and only listen to >>>>>>>>>>>compressed >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>audio files when I absolutely have to and I especially go out of >>>my >>>>>>way >>>>>>>>>>to >>>>>>>>>>>avoid having anything to do with Mac related stuff as a matter > of >>>>principle, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>but Amy likes Apple and so I loaded ITunes on her new PC and I've >>>>been >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>playing around with it. Yeah, I know.........I'm only 5 years >>>>>>>>>>>behind >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>everyone else here, but anyway, all I can say is that I *really* >>>like >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>ITunes. I can't find anything I don't like about it. If I were > going >>>>>>>to >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>design something like this, I couldn't do it any better (now hows >>>>that >>>>>>>>>for >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>egotism?). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>;o) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote: > >"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote: >> >>The $1 salary is a publicity stunt. He has options worth well over half >a >>billion. >> >>http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1590 >> >>TCB > >I don't believe he has exercised his options yet. The company also bought >a 45 million dollar gulf stream for him to use for business. He doesn't >own the jet the company does. What did Gates and Balmer make last year? I don't know and it has no more to do with the question than how much I made last year. As the CEO of a publicly traded company it's his _job_ to do everything legally possible to maximize profits or, in other words, to be greedy. If he's not being greedy then he's not doing his job. And, from the standpoint of shareholder value he has been a magnificent success. TCB >>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>Good heavens, James, did you read my post? I said I won't buy _any_ >format >>>>>>that restricts my freedoms. Not MSoft, not Apple, not anyone. Trust >me, >>>&gt
;>I >>>>>>despise Microsoft a great deal more than you do, because I have to deal >>>>>with >>>>>>their hideous, bloated software all the time. >>>>>> >>>>>>Lastly, Steve Jobs is a billionaire executive in charge of a corporation >>>>>>with an $80 billion market cap. He's is specifically tasked with making >>>>>as >>>>>>much money for Apple shareholders as he can, in other words to be greedy. >>>>>>That's his job. He doesn't care about you or me or small record labels >>>>or >>>>>>artists one bit more than Steve Ballmer does. >>>&
d independent record labels? Why take up time and space featuring >and >>>>>spotlighting unsigned artists. I think he is trying to help the little >>>>guy >>>>>out. How much money and effort have the major labels and MS put out >and >>>>>done to help the little guy? >>>> >>>>Why does he do those things? To convince as many people as he can that >>he's >>>>something other than the stinking rich greedy CEO that he is. >>> >>> >>>That one dollar a year CEO salary sure is greedy. I guess you'll say that >>>his salary is just for appearances. So how many CEOs take one dollar a >>year >>>for their salary? How about taking one dollar for ten years? I'd like >>to >>>have seen Gates take one dollar a year for ten years. I guess it will >always >>>be some kind of wrong reasoning and a jab. >>> >>>> >>>>>Give the guy a little credit. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>So here we go again. Steve Jobs is the bad guy??? He went and beat >>>up >>>>>>the >>>>>>>poor record companies and made them open up their libraries to Apple. >>>> >>>>>Is >>>>>>>that the way it was? I can't believe that some people will stand right >>>>>>in >>>>>>>front of the truth and deny it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The record companies have been pushing such crap music for the last >>15 >>>>>years >>>>>>>that they were in trouble. With the advent of MP3s and the increased >>>>use >>>>>>>of personal computers, the record companies could no longer maintain >>>control >>>>>>>of their music. With P2P file sharing, and the huge salaries they >were >>>>>>paying >>>>>>>the pimps to run the record companies, and the crap artists they signed, >>>>>>>they were losing revenue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Steve Jobs came to them with a good BUSINESS MODEL/PLAN! It was a >great >>>>>>>deal for the record companies. Apple pays them on average, $0.85 per >>>>song! >>>>>>> Apple had to set up the whole infrastructure and maintain the system >>>>out >>>>>>>of pocket. Many of the songs are remastered, and Apple has the task >>>of >>>>>>encoding >>>>>>>all of the songs. >>>>>>> >>>&gt
k at how many people the >>>>>>>>record >>>>>>companies >>>>>>>>and the RIAA have sued! They have their lobby group the RIAA which >>>is >>>>>>a >>>>>>>>gang of thug lawyers that pushes everybody around. Impoverished kids >>>>>and >>>>>>>>single moms! They don't care, pay up or else! Slime! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>MS, look at the things they've done. They have stolen from Apple, >> netscape, >>>>>>>>Sun, the list goes on, and the list is long. Look at how much they >>>>have >>>>>>>>taken. They steal, then they turn around and prosecute people that >>>copy >>>>>>>>their software, when much of it was stolen by them. How many times >>>have >>>>>>>>you heard of Apple having people prosecuted? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Yep, it's Apple that is evil, and it's Steve Jobs that is the bad >>>>>>>>guy. >>>>>> >>>>>>>It's >>>>>>>>Jobs that wants to take your freedoms away, not Gates and his Pay to >>>>Play >>>>>>>>model. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Get a clue! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Well, my main take on it is that I don't care, I simply will not buy >>>>>things >>>>>>>>>in a format that treats me like I'm a criminal. My secondary take >> on >>>>>it >>>>>>>>is >>>>>>>>>that Esteban Jobs is wicked smart and managed to brow beat the >>>>>>>>>record >>>>>>labels >>>>>>>>>into using his store precisely because of the DRM it had. Now that >>>he's >>>>>>>>cornered >>>>>>>>>the market he's campaigning for the removal of the DRM because, >>>>>>>>>surprise, >>>>>>>>>customers don't like it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I'm also quite sure that some day in the not too distant future when >>>>>you >>>>>>>>>buy a car you'll have to sign and EULA that says, 'This 'motor >>>>>>>>>vehicle' >>>>>>>>is >>>>>>>>>licensed, not sold, to you . . .' >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>BTW I'm putting my money where my mouth is on this one. I'm trying >>>to >>>>>>convince >>>>>>>>>the Mold Monkies to release our upcoming second CD as both .ogg and >>>>flac >>>>>>>>>files into the file sharing universe. I'm hoping to include a note >>>pointing >>>>>>>>>people to our web site and saying only that if they like our music >>>it >>>>>>would >>>>>>>>>be really cool if they would buy a sticker or a T-Shirt or pick up >>>my >>>>>>bar >>>>>>>>>tab some night. I haven't completely convinced the guys, I don't >>>>>>>>>write >>>>>>>songs >>>>>>>>>for this band so it's their copyright not mine, but I'm getting >>>>>>>>>closer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>TCB >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Thad- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>What's your take on the idea that DRM is being foisted on all >>>>>>>>>>online >>>>>>stores >>>>>&